you are just determined to be rude which is the point i was trying to get across and i will not sink to your level and be rude also

The thing is, I accepted an invitation. I didn't even know I did it. I was simply clicking around, learning how this site works. There wasn't an intentional invitation I made that I wanted to cancel. I simply didn't know. Now I do. Isn't there some grace factor? To me, that is sporty. Saying, you clicked it, tough is a bit strict in my opinion.

It would be similar if we bumped into each other on the street while being preoccupied with whatever we were doing beforehand. You juse say, "excuse me sir" / cancel, and move on. Not only do I see that as sporty, but also polite.

You can think whatever you want to think. I simply made a feature request. Take it or leave it. I don't really care. I am sorry I even brought it up.

jadarite: ;-)  -  some days ago, someone invited me to a mancala game as blkack player. i didnt want to play him, explained him why and pushed the "accept"-button, without wanting it (i just got used to click on that button).

i am here for more than 3 years now and - well - as long as i am here for fun and - not only - to improve my ratings or so, it simply does not affect me to click the wrong button. - same happened quite often when accepting a draw-ofer that i wanted to decline... ;-)))

jadarite: Your Feature request has more problems associated with it than solutions. People are just trying to help you figure out other options that might help. Another solution to your problem is to send a private message to Fencer who has the ability to help you, but I would guess that he would not prefer to do this if you are prone to accepting game invitations on accident

Family Man:

THe discussion with jadarite reminds me that i was feeling a little misplaced here a couple of hours/days ago either:

asked for a feature to count single points instead of just wins and losses. fencer answered only shortly but i received a lot of contradictory words from a couple of members here... . i didnt want some advice either ;-), just needed to tell my opinion on the existing system and some possible "improvements"..

but its good.
if we didnt discuss those issues in public, especially all the "experienced" brainking.-users, the boss of this site would have to work until his death just fulfilling our requests. so our discussion here is worth a lot, but finally all those advice could lead into a wrong direction, too - and the requestor easily feels misunderstood.

in my case, the discussion about counting single points in some games came to an end in the swamp and i still feel not being accepted and/or understood by all those people who talked about "my" issue.

 -  maybe we should talk about a special moderation for this forum, or maybe about a final word of the site's owner after a certain while?!

Your draw example brought up an idea. What if you had 1 day to reverse declining or accepting an offer? This has good points for both the game offer and draw offer. A third use is if people wanted to take back a move, that could be very helpful. You make a move, and then see the mistake after it has been moved. Being able to edit the last action you did would be very useful.

I am happy with the feature to be able to edit which smileys we want to use.

I wonder if it would be possible, when we see a smiley used by somebody else that we like, that we could right click it or something to be able to instantly add that smiley to our own list?

diogenysos: i definatly understood you and though i disagree with you you stated yourself in a polite and respectful way to everyone. the problem with jardartie is that, in my opinion is that he wasn't open to people offering help to him and then insulted the people. i do however agree that Fencer should have the final say if it would in his opinion be benifical to everyone on the site.

jadarite: One of the problems encountered trying to implement features on a site like this is that there may be many unintended consequences in such an action. Fencer has to balance any positive outcomes of a new feature with any possible negative outcomes, and unfortunately, there are many negative outcomes associated with allowing or providing for people to simply cancel games without penalty after they have already accepted them.

"Another solution to your problem is to send a private message to Fencer who has the ability to help you, but I would guess that he would not prefer to do this if you are prone to accepting game invitations on accident"

This site is run a little differently than others. I see some good points and bad points about that. However, because it is run differently, you will get newbies (which I am), that don't know how to navigate through the site until we experiment and trial and error.

Obviously, now I am not going to accept invitations to see the board from now on. Being prone to something means you do it on a continuous basis. I have only done it once. As diogenysos pointed out, there are also common actions we do because 99% of the time it is appropriate. What about that 1% when we our actions don't represent our intentions?

jadarite: Being prone to something means you do it on a continuous basis. I have only done it once. As diogenysos pointed out, there are also common actions we do because 99% of the time it is appropriate. What about that 1% when we our actions don't represent our intentions?


Thats when it is appropriate to message fencer with your request. He is generally very helpful, as long as it is not a too common situation (IE "prone")

"there are many negative outcomes associated with allowing or providing for people to simply cancel games without penalty after they have already accepted them."

That's understandable. I am open to finding out whatever negative aspects there are to preventing people from canceling games if they haven't been started. This is a common feature on many other game servers. To not allow it is like not allowing people have guns. The criminals end up with the guns, and the law abiding citizens don't have a means to protect themselves. This is an extreme analogy, but it gets the point across. If someone is to use this feature for wrong reasons, they can still do it now. I would understand it if this feature didn't have a limit, but I think one a day (one a week??) would be very helpful to those that aren't here to cause trouble.

jadarite: I do have to agree with you that it is unfortunate that this site has to be set up to indulge the fringe users over the pleasures of the mainstream users, but that is something you will learn is necessary, else the fringe users will ruin it for the mainstream type.

Fencer, Could we have a Fellowship Stats & Ratings page for our Fellowships please.
It could be set as the Main brainking ones, BUT just for all members within each Fellowship.
Of course we would not need all the options the Main brainking ones have.
We could see which player in the Fellowship is rated highest within it at every game, then as with the Main brainking ones we could click on a game & we could see a list of all established(provisional) Fellowship members at that game.
Also here a column to let us know which players play for which Fellowship Teams in that game.
This could help Big Bosses see what players are available to play for Teams without having to look at each profile individually.
It could also include Number of Fellowship Tournaments entered/won and number of Fellowship Team Tournaments entered/won.
A nice way to see which members are the most active within a Fellowship.

Instead of adjusting every variable for a game invite, I would like to be able to have a default preset invite which I could just send out. To add to this, maybe it could auto do this as soon as a current game is finished.

In multi game Tournaments where games maybe a mixture Open, Running or Finished it would be nice when you look at the whole Tournament if beside the finished games we could see that particular Tournament winner, rather than having to open each one to see who won it.
We could then see how many and which players have won which, a small thing, but nice

When I type a message on the boards, I usually write the subject, then tab down and write the message.

But now there are 6 different things I need to tab through before finally making it to the message... many times I will be writing to only find out I did not tab enough times.

With all these "short-cut" options being added to the page, could we either (1) make them optional to show up or (2) move them above the Subject box - that way there are still there to click on, but will not get in the way of writing a subject/message.

coan.net: LOL, you do that too, eh?

coan.net: Is it better now?

Fencer: Yes - option 3 of making tab skip over them works great also!

Thanks!

Perhaps Fencer don't like me but what I have done to him to stop me from winning this game?
Pente Pro (Chaosu vs. stoneaxe)

Chaosu: Best place to post that is in the Bug Tracker: http://brainking.com/en/BugTracker

Even though Fencer tries to read this boards, if for some reason he gets behind - he may miss certain messages. So for a bug where it looks like you should have already won, posting it in the Bug Tracker will allow him to see it, and hopefully figure out what caused the bug and try to see that it does not happen again. (along with fix the game)

Chaosu: What kind of feature request is that?

I apologize for posting on wrong board.

Happy?

Youtube support in BrainKing...Way cool.
I hope this is the right board...Is it OK to discuss Features fo Features?

1. I am sure I'm not alone here...My company blocks youtube. So, I assume that won't break the page, just the object.

2. "Rook" membership? Only rooks can embed the object, but everyone can watch it?

3. Brainking.info insinuates that Brainking is a "Static" site....I actually find it quite Dynamic. New stuff (blogs, DB content, even features and games) happens EVERY day.

Summertop:

Why would I pay to be able to post youtube videos when I can just send a link to a friend through a messenger like Yahoo or AIM already for free? I am not trying to attack you in any way, but I question sites which base payment on services that don't need payment. If we are to pay into the system, shouldn't the money go towards more productive causes like improve on the 90's interface look this site has, and integrate training applets to help people who play strategic games like chess, go, etc...?

There are a ton of features that could be added which directly relate to games that would improve it overall for everyone. That's where my money would go if I were to become a paying member.

jadarite: I agree completely. This has already largely become a "lonely hearts" site for backgammon players. Youtube is not a game... It's already an established hobby on a different kind of site.

jadarite: Ah, I wasn't the one suggesting that only Rook level members could post. This was suggested by Fencer in his Brainking.info blog. Personally, I see no reason to limit the implementation to certain membership levels. But, it is not my site. Since I DO have a rook membership, I don't care. Is that selfish?

jadarite: Anyone who reads the Music board will see the music discussion often includes a link to a YouTube video.

You do not need to be a Rook to see the video, only to embed it. I think its a nice addition.

And now, back to feature requests!

Rose: Have I done something to offend you? If so, sorry...but I can't imagine what it was.

FYI: Every feature request here has some discussion following it. Yet this one, you as GM, asks us to stop. You have the right to do that so I will stop. However, Fencer has "given" us the right to make requests, so I will re-state it so it easier to understand the request. And so it looks more like a request. Fair?

Request: Could the youtube implementation be changed, so that ANY membership level can embed objects.
Reason: As a rook member, I don't like being able to watch some videos inside BK, while others I have to link out of BK.

FYI: I haven't watched any of them yet...but I can still make requests for the way I would like to see it. If Fencer, chooses not to change it, thats fine. I won't be upset at all...just giving my suggestions.

Summertop: On that same blog you can read Since there are many things to test yet, the feature works only for Brain Rooks or higher membership levels. From that I figure that it just for Rooks while it's on this test phase... but of course, I'm not in Fencer's mind, so he'll have to confirm that personally.

Summertop: At this time, only Rooks have the privilege of adding a video. Everyone can see them however.

I believe Fencer created it with the intent of incentive toward a Rook membership, just as only Rooks can create Fellowships.


added: but as pauloaguia said, it could be just a beta testing thing.

I enjoy all the videos posted on the music board and being able to embed is even better, thanks very much Fencer!

jadarite: But I don't want to add a ton of game related features. It's too boring job. I like changes and experiments.

It would be nice if in the tournament search part we could find tournaments according to the match type.

I like playing matches of several games and to several wins, simply because some games seem slightly slanted towards the white or black player. Multi-game matches even out the odds of winning.

If we can search tournaments according to match type, I would be able to find those tournaments with matches rather than just a single game.

A request that comes from the portuguese DB: when we create an invitation to a specific player we cannot see how our BKR can be affected by that game. However, our opponent has access to that information before (s)he accepts the invitation.
Is it possible to see how a specific game will affect my BKR at invitation time and when the opponent is already know even when I was the one sending the invitation?

pauloaguia:
i agree completely with this request!
had the same idea quite a while ago and its imho definitely an important feature!

does anyone else get redirected to www.errorprotector.com from this site? I can't find a problem with my system and it only happens from brainking.

grenv: A google search for errorprotector makes me think you might have got spyware on your computer.

I got it too, yes, it could be spyware. However, the spyware could be originating from the banners. I have had a few of these come up while using Paltalk. So, if you want to catch the banner, you can clear your cache before visiting here, and next time you get it, go to your temp folder and the culprit should be there.

This is the FEATURE REQUESTS discussion board, folks.

rod03801,

Is there a support forum?

jadarite: Well, I suppose the original post of the thread would have been appropriate on the brainking.com discussion board... But it certainly wasn't a feature request.

Well it seems to me a good "feature" would be to get rid of the offending banners. It has now happened on 3 computers, all of which are clean, and only at this site (i.e. i get redirected from this site)

rod03801: and/or how about the "computers"-board? a whole bunch of experts may await you to solve any-spyware-prob... ;-))

grenv: I thought all bad banner ad's were already removed: http://brainking.info/archives/299-BrainKing-is-safe-more-than-before.html

Did Fencer bring them back?