Matarilevich: "the double capture 61...Qb3-h3 is an ilegal move? "
Here Yes! becose if a players have a progr.. he or she can t not use.:)

ustica: What does it mean "progr.."? I don´t understand you. It seems it´s an ilegal move but the rules doesn´t explain anything about this. Moreover, i think the rules are incorrect because in turkish checkers a player can not choose between two captures except when he captures the same number of pieces. Is it implemented?

http://www.geocities.com/karakusk/dama/rules.html
I think the rules of this game are wrong in BrainKing.

Matarilevich: Here Yes!

Matarilevich: any site they got the is rule

Fencer: I don't know of a Chinese Federation.

Matarilevich:
First just two comments, to the question itself. Why searching for a reply its received with sarcasm? Why we can't have doubts about the game rules? Second comment, maybe its more apropriate put your question on the Checkers 8x8 Forum instead of this one...

Ok my reply, I think not having 100% sure, (which I would like a normal answer too!) that move its illegal here in BK, and in the "regular" turkish game also (thought theres a lot of official turkish variations, with different rules).

The turkish variation implemented here its not the same as the "regular" Turkish game, but I think its been on the todo list the implementation of the right rules. If not I apologised for my mistake.

Ferjo:
Well, english is not my tongue so i always prefer to be kind and giving a second oportunity for a explanation. It´s not my problem if someone want to be coward. I don´t know if he wanted to be sarcastic or ironic, it´s not the same but i prefer to think he is intelligent and he was being ironic.
My question is : In accordance of the written rules of checkers in BrainKing is this move ilegal? Can it be demonstrated? Thank you Ferjo.

Matarilevich:
No is no evidence about it on the english written rules, and until the big modificance in Czeck Checkers rules that particular move was legal. But what can i say to you, is that move its now illegal on BK. Which I think its more accordingly to the turkish variant.

Ferjo: But on BrainKing i don´t see any rule demonstrates this move is ilegal. Now i know i can´t do it (too late because i moved thinking it´d be possible) but i think it´s legal on BrainKing because there isn´t any rule banning it.

At the end of the rules of Turkish Checkers says :
"The other rules are the same as Czech Checkers" and in Czech Checkers says : "The other rules are the same as Checkers". Reading all these rules I think this move is legal but reading other rules at internet the move is not legal.

Here in the rules of Checkers says too : "If the player has more possibilities to capture opponent's pieces, he/she can select any of them. However, when a queen (in variants with long jumps) can make a jump, the player cannot select a pawn to jump with." and this should be valid for the Turkish-BrainKing Checkers in accordance of the rules but the rules of http://www.geocities.com/karakusk/dama/rules.html say the opposite.

Are the rules unique? Are the rules wrong in BrainKing?

I would like to know which are the rules of Turkish in BrainKing because it´s difficult playing predicting the rules.

Matarilevich: "But on BrainKing i don´t see any rule demonstrates this move is ilegal." now! this the rule here "a queen that can move (and jump) any number of spaces in four directions (left, up, right and down)."

you see! the rule never says the you can jump side by side. i hope this is your anser.

Matarilevich:
Like I said its not written, in my opinion should be because once in the past was allowed...
You right its a bit confuse, and you are not the only one who missunderstood the rules. I've already asked for a more clarified english checkers rules text, but I lost with my arguements and I'm not going to start all over again.
I've helped the Portuguese translator and at least now I know that portuguese players understand better the checkers rules in Brainking.

Ferjo: Thank you Ferjo. I am going to propose a little change of the written rules in BrainKing in the board of Checkers variants.

ustica: Well but it´s not obvious. Jump side by side it´s like for example jump to right and left and this is allowed. By this reason the official rules says : "Within a multicapture turning 180 degrees between two captures is illegal." It´s logic because in this way all captures are ortoghonals but this norm must be included into the rules or in other case it should not be applied.

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Could anyone tell me anything about the devil's triangle stragty in checkers..Linwood X

Quite some time ago I gave my opinion as to who was the very best checker player on Brainking..based on years of experience. It was then and is now none other than Ustica. Congrats on the BKR.

Purple: Yes he is probably the best with the aid of a program.

Andre Faria: Besdies having played him for years there is a
"Best Player" list by BKR and Fencer has Ustica as number one.

The proper ratings are available for viewing all though not quite finished yet of proper players who play year in and year out in tournaments face to face.

http://www.checkers.wz.cz/checkers_rating.html

Purple: I would have to agree with that one

Socrates: It aounds like poor sportsmanship to make an accusation like that without proof. I was just congratulating the top BKR checker player.

Its a subject that rears its ugly head all to often but can never be 100% prooved. So any doubts, people should not play opponents who they think are cheating.

gooner: Well said. And Old 14 has been part of published play for so long that many people move it like book but have no connection to computer programs. I don't like the openning myself.

Purple: Program or not I will play them makes no differeance to me, It's just a game. Most have always been nice to me either way

Nomad: I think real checker players are a brotherhood that rises above individual dislikes.

Nomad: I don't have a problem either and will accept invites from anyone. For it is and always will be fun for me, besides whether your playing a good human player or a computer you can only learn more and aspire to a greater level.

Sigh. You make it sound that his program using is a good thing. He will continue to do this while he gets "support" from you all.

Socrates: well.. I don't condone anyone cheating.. all I would be able to do is avoid playing with them.. it isn't like I can go around the table and just boink them on their head! LOL

Socrates: Its not a good thing no if "Proved" but it can't, so we may aswell get on with it.

Socrates: You say the proof is you checked with a program. That only proves you have a program. Not Ustica.

Gooner:
in this page http://www.checkers.wz.cz/checkers_rating.html is free games database too. :-)
Socrates: I like real tournaments, no online, becouse in online (in Brainking is nord :-( )played more player with program.

sobek: It's an interesting site.

gooner and all:
will be more db for different style (10x10, spainish, russian-shashki, brasil, italian etx) :-)))) please wait, max. 1-2 mounth :-)

Droppo Wong: Yes I have about 4-5 checker programs on my hard drive. So what?

sobek: Those ratings are very innaccurate.

Socrates: Why? We calculate no all tournaments as national federation. You must understand, We calculate from tournaments, if we receive. Send me example cross table from Barbados championship from 2000.

sobek: There are some players rated 2200-2300 that are not as strong as some 1700 rated players. That's a big difference.

socrates: please, it is new rating, from tournaments only from 2000. Rating is statistic method, more games, better ratings. example ACF has rating 20 Years and it is not absolutly correct for all players. (same different will be everytime). We need more games, more tournaments. Will be more accuratelly, more and more :-))

sobek: Any idea what has happened to checker solutions? your comments on there were always worth reading. If your the same person I am thinking of.

gooner: I am sorry, but I don't understand Your Idea. :-(

gooner: The checkers BBS is down right now. George Miller is making a new one I believe. You can check www.usacheckers.com for another checkers forum.

Socrates: Thanks I will