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alanback: WOW! You have seen that page too? (btw... how do i to respond to you on that board you sent me.. it seems that i am responding on the main brainking.com board?) In find your question VERY VALUABLE and THANK YOU! I would say: Ban banner ads!
件名: Re: Commercials on this site makes me decide to leave from here!
KotDB: Unless you want to make this a public debate, please message Fencer directly about your complaints because I don't want to hear about it.
If you do want to make it a public debate, then you've actually talked yourself into a hole. The fact is, the site is free - yes there are ads unless you want to pay. That makes sense to everyone here. If you want to be cheap, live with ads. You get what you pay for.
件名: Re: Commercials on this site makes me decide to leave from here!
Fencer: Your response to my post is troubling. Rather than address the substance of my remarks, you've resorted to an unprovoked ad hominem argument. Nevertheless, I will reply, at least this once. I will try to keep the discussion civil, and I hope you will do the same in the future.
You made four statements about me:
"never spent a cent to support the site" This is true. But it does not negate the legitimacy of my opinions, nor is it cause for you to complain. You have offered a product for sale, but that does not obligate anyone to purchase it. Individuals will purchase it or not, as they see fit. Just as BrainKing is yours to develop as you will, my money is mine to spend as I will. (If I remember correctly, you yourself have stated more than once, although not recently, that you don't expect every user to buy a membership.) At present, I do not consider BrainKing membership to be worth the price. I have fairly concrete thoughts about what changes might make me reconsider; if you're interested, I can share them with you at another time.
"uses its services for free" This also is true, and this also does not give you cause to complain. You have chosen to make BrainKing available, with some limitations, at no charge. If you don't want anyone to use BK for free, all you have to do is disallow it by discontinuing the Pawn membership level. It is your site, and you can grant or deny access as you please. As long as you permit Pawns to use the site without paying, it is inappropriate to criticize them for doing so.
"has no idea about the work behind it" This is false. Of course I am not privy to every detail, but I certainly recognize that creating BrainKing from scratch and developing it into its current form has required a monumental amount of labor -- from designing the initial concept and structure, to painstakingly writing and debugging many thousands of lines of code, to dealing with endless demands from very opinionated users. Perhaps I don't agree with every decision you've made along the way, but that does not mean I think your role is easy.
"has absolutely no idea about the real purpose of all this" Well, if you're not making money from the ads, then what is their purpose? Please enlighten us.
BrainKing has a lot of potential. I would very much like to see it become the kind of gaming site that I could pay for. When I first joined in 2005, that seemed like a possibility. Now it seems unlikely. But you may yet surprise me. You've done so before.
I really miss the pink shading behind the games in which it is my turn.on the main page. I used to be able to walk past and with a quick glance get a good idea of how many games are waiting for me to move in by the size of the pink box. Now I have to stop and have a proper look. Not cool when you are trying to vacuum the house. LOL
I've noticed that on various chess games (at least corner chess, fortress chess, dice chess and maharadjah chess) the border is white, while the game is played on a white background. Other chess variants do have the boundary in a non-white colour.
Now you cannot see you're playing a different game than normal chess by just glancing at the border.
I also note that he colour of the border isn't controlled by a style sheet.
nabla: I already started doing that. Not because I liked the old style better, but mainly because I want to read other statements than "I want the old style back" again There has to be made a small change to the site, which I already told to Fencer, and a little more work has to be done by me, but nothing impossible. The state of what has been done so far can be viewed here. Some font sizes aren't correct, and the list-of-games-where-it-is-not-your-turn is in the wrong color and without border. But that will be done in a few days I hope, and then we can get back to business
crosseyed: I usually don't care much about looks, but the new look is so much better than the old one that even I am enjoying it a lot. Now, amongst the few that liked the old one better, why not finding someone to write a "Brainking old style" CSS for the new system ?
Fencer: Thank you. I just bought a new laptop last week with the fastest processor I've had yet, connected to this high speed internet connection that I have here in the city. I've just had to log on four times in the last three hours, and I thought there might be some relation to the new look.
Of course I am almost illiterate where programming is concerned, and sometimes ask naiive questions regarding these things.
Thanks for the quick answer, F.
For all the complainers out there, I'd like you to name any site where the owner and programmer is on so often to interact with our concerns.
emmett: No, it is not connected. If there is a short downtime, it is usually a system level problem (which usually has nothing to do with BrainKing at all). The hardware should be upgraded.
Fencer: It was a question, because I'm not sure if it was possible. I've just noticed some unusual behaviour this morning, and I have a very fast connection. Sorry, because I like the new changes and I don't want you to misconstrue my question.
Fencer: I have to be honest and say there is not much I like about it all. The colours are too pale some text in some areas is too small. I have tried all choices and I have to say I prefer the old version. I guess I will get used to it in time. And I still get thrown off this site on a daily bases.
crosseyed: I thought the same for a bit - but im already used to it..... its kinda like the new star wars movies - everybody (with a brain) hates Jar-Jar Binks - but at least we still got 3 new star wars movies in the process.....
Im happy the site is growing and evolving - and ill be willing to adapt to keep on playing....
Hrqls: You can find their address in the source code of every brainking page : www.brainking.com/css/simple-30.css www.brainking.com/css/castle-30.css www.brainking.com/css/nofonts-30.css
件名: Re: Commercials on this site makes me decide to leave from here!
Gabriel Almeida: Very well, you have said that at last. The real source of your complaints is not any commercial ad but the simple fact that moderators don't allow you to write some words to the public boards. But anything like that can work as a good excuse.
件名: Re: Commercials on this site makes me decide to leave from here!
Fencer: ads like that are EVERYWHERE these days,papers,tv,internet. ive got them off here cos i have the option but tv there is no "hide" button...they are part of modern life.
件名: Re: Commercials on this site makes me decide to leave from here!
Gabriel Almeida: Just out of curiosity, what do you expect me to do now? If you ever bothered to read what I write here (and on other boards), you could already answer yourself without asking. There is no point to repeat the obvious facts over and over. Since there is no pleasing some kind of people, if you really want to, leave the site. The problem is solved. Yes, it is a political answer and I know you hate it.
Mousetrap: Forget what I said about the smilies. I had been playing arround with the browser tools switching things off here and there and I just switched it all back on again and the smilies work lmbo, so that was my fault sorry.
Fencer: I am not against dating, but against the obvious pictures that use in this ad. By turning them off they still make an impact on BK. That has nothing to do with complaining; but with genuine concern!
件名: Re: Commercials on this site makes me decide to leave from here!
Radiant2007 :-): "BK should be free from any of these type of ads" - why? What is wrong on dating? It is not against a family orientation, at least from my point of view. I understand that different people can treat this thing in different ways but no solution can be good enough for everyone. That's why there is the option to turn off the ads at all. Who does not want to do it, should not complain about it.