Fencer: :) it didnt install it .. it just offered it .. and ie showed me its nice yellow bar telling me that i a website was offering me a download .. of course i didnt do that

but still the ad took over brainkings tab, made it small, popped up another window, which i could only close, then it showed the window in which brainking was with the drivecleaner site

i had to close that one .. and restart in brainking .. and .. within 10 clicks on brainking .. it happened again :)

now i am a few more clicks further and it didnt happen again .. but 2 times is quite annoying (1 time already is)

(just got this computer on friday, still in the process of installing all, will have ff on it again soon .. but still .. this ad is quite annoying)

Fencer: is there anything i can do to track it down for you ?
or to know more of its origins ?

Fencer: thats why i am bothered by it .. i didnt click on it :)

i might have hovered my mouse over an ad though .. not sure .. i moved quite fast

Fencer: i got a new one .. this time something called 'drivecleaner'

it loaded in the brainking tab (i have to admit i am using ie, didnt install ff on this new pc yet) .. made the window very small (not minimized) .. showed another window in the center of my screen . when i close the originally brainking window show another window of drivercleaner showing my pc (although they gave my drives the wrong names :)) .. showing i had threats on it .. and trying to make me download something (a cab file)

its quite nasty as i have to close down my ie .. restart it .. and login into brainking again

popups might be annoying .. but this is worse
(i might be able to live with popups alone :))

Fencer: true .. i know about that .. i just posted it because errorsafe is a problem

errorsafe takes over the window, and it requires quite some clicking to get rid off .. you can easily misclick and install some software from them

i had another ad which also took over the window and on which my avg detected 3 virusses .. i dont know which ad that was though, or which site contained the virusses .. will log it next case it happens

somehow something changed in the ads as this didnt happened about 2 weeks ago (i think), but now i get it about once a day

Universal Eyes: could be .. but we will let fencer take care of it .. no need to create a hunt for the invisible (to us)

Universal Eyes: its not a name of a person
its one of the ad companies

there is not a member on brainking causing trouble in this
i wonder what you are talking about, but please send it to me in a private message

i did the same test again, ran spybot, went to brainking, made a few moves (other games), closed brainking, ran spybot again

this time i didnt get a bad ad (which would take over my window or cause my antivirus to react) .. but spybot did find something again:


TagASaurus: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

FastClick: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

Tradedoubler: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

Fencer: thanks! that would be great!
it happened again to me today

yesterday i use adaware and spybot search & destroy to clean up my pc
after that i didnt use the internet anymore
this morning i used spybot s&d again and found nothing extra (as expected) (only that my antivirus was not controlled by microsoft which is correct :))

i then went to brainking and made some moves, the errorsafe ad took over my brainking window again when i tried to make a move in my dicepoker game

after that i ran spybot s&d again and it found some items:

Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.AntiVirusOverride: Instellingen (Registerwijziging
., fixed)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center\AntiVirusOverride!=dword:0
ErrorSafe: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

TagASaurus: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

ErrorSafe: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

DoubleClick: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

ErrorSafe: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

MediaPlex: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)


--- Spybot - Search & Destroy version: 1.4 (build: 20050523) ---
2005-05-31 blindman.exe (1.0.0.1)
2005-05-31 SpybotSD.exe (1.4.0.3)
2005-05-31 TeaTimer.exe (1.4.0.2)
2006-05-09 unins000.exe (51.41.0.0)
2005-05-31 Update.exe (1.4.0.0)
2007-01-15 advcheck.dll (1.2.1.0)
2005-05-31 aports.dll (2.1.0.0)
2005-05-31 borlndmm.dll (7.0.4.453)
2005-05-31 delphimm.dll (7.0.4.453)
2005-05-31 SDHelper.dll (1.4.0.0)
2007-01-02 Tools.dll (2.0.1.0)
2005-05-31 UnzDll.dll (1.73.1.1)
2005-05-31 ZipDll.dll (1.73.2.0)
2007-03-14 Includes\Cookies.sbi (*)
2006-12-08 Includes\Dialer.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\DialerC.sbi (*)
2007-02-07 Includes\Hijackers.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\HijackersC.sbi (*)
2006-10-27 Includes\Keyloggers.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\KeyloggersC.sbi (*)
2004-11-29 Includes\LSP.sbi (*)
2007-02-14 Includes\Malware.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\MalwareC.sbi (*)
2007-01-19 Includes\PUPS.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\PUPSC.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\Revision.sbi (*)
2006-12-08 Includes\Security.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\SecurityC.sbi (*)
2007-02-02 Includes\Spybots.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\SpybotsC.sbi (*)
2005-02-17 Includes\Tracks.uti
2007-03-14 Includes\Trojans.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\TrojansC.sbi (*)


i didnt use the internet for anything else than brainkin in between my 2 runs of spybot s&d

(ok i also visited google.nl as its my startpage)

i hope brainking will be without these nasty ads again soon :)
(i dont mind ads, but these take me away from the site (the brainking window is overtaken, and several programs detect threats, once even 3 virusses (viri?))

Oceans Apart: lol .. nah .. when its during work i have no problem .. it just showed when i was having a legal break :)

Hrqls: hmm .. just got it again .. but while being logged in
i made a move in a game .. and arrived at the errorsafe page which asked me wether it could scan my computer

will check my system for any adware/spyware and see if it finds anything
(would be weird as this is my computer at work and all i do is work and visit brainking and dailygammon)

Fencer: i havent disabled all banner ads .. as i want to get actions point (although i wont win by far .. its just fun ;))

the ads arent a problem .. but it did gave me a popup screen (or even replaced the brainking page by something else) .. while the ads normally dont do something like that

the main problem though is that it gave me a page with a virus on it .. it popsup and doesnt show brainking

i tried to get it again ... but failed
it showed when i logged in this morning (after being away from work for the weekend)
i cleared all and manually deleted all cookies .. it showed me the english login .. i logged in .. and all was fine

will see if i can find out more next time it happes
(probably this afternoon at home :))

Fencer: it seems to happen to me while logging in
(from the brainking.com page)

Fencer: i always use brainking.com ... it also gave me the bad sites

when i go to brainking.com i arrive at the login page .. no problem yet .. then i enter my username and password and login .. then the bad site will show

(it even showed a site which avg told me to contain a virus (or 3))

it doesnt happen to me the second time i go to brainking.com though

(maybe i am not logged in yet when i click on login .. so the site will show .. the next time when i enter the site via brainking.com it recognizes my cookie and doesnt show the bad sites?)

ßăķëď Äłáşķǻñ: and because brainking allows weird characters in the user names ;)

nightmagic: i will try to answer some of your questions :

i am not a native english speaker (i am dutch), so i might have misunderestood some questions

• i think you wonder why you are redirected from this board to another board sometimes. this board is about brainking.com itself and not about other subjects like the weather or politics or saying hi to friends .. general chat is the board meant for that .. i think (but i might be wrong) that this board is a bit formal and should not have too much offramping which would bury the real subjects


• i dont have webtv .. but i think the site still works with webtv .. the new layout doesnt, but thats still in testing .. i dont know what the future will bring for brainking+webtv though


• people say brainking is #1 because of various reasons .. i think its #1 because of the games which are supported here, great games! great variations! and because of the people on here, always nice (99% of them :)) and having fun at playing .. another thing which is better than on most gaming sites is that the owner does respond to questions (which is what i miss on most other sites) .. another thing which makes this site better than other game sites is the extras like fellowships, tournaments which you can create yourself, team matches, prize tournaments. some people (including me) like new things being added, the old things can still be used, but new things can be explored :) .. add all this up and you will find out this site is in many ways a better site than others (there are other sites though which focus on 1 or 2 aspects and do that better (like dailygammon) but for the overal aspect this site rocks :)) (in my opinion)


• if i misunderstood, please post a message .. try to keep the text short and in dummy english so i understand it as well ;)

Fencer:

Fencer: take it easy please .. dont bait this into something that doesnt belong on this board :)

rappski: there are 2 types of flags on this site

• 1 flag is shown on everyones profile .. that with which country the user has registered himself


• another flag is shown to select the language in which the site will be shown .. there are several translators who translated this site into other languages (e.g. vic and i translated the site into dutch) .. there is no american flag shown there because the site isnt translated into american .. an english flag is shown for the english translation though

for any discussions about politics or freedom of speech .. please use another board which is more aimed for that subject

BerniceC: hi, i guess this is in response to a private message i sent to you .. i would have preferred it to be replied to in a privare message as well .. i see i have several new messages which i will read after this.

the point i in the private message was that cryingloser asked a question which was related to brainking.com .. you were right though that it would have been better at the feature request board .. but just because i dont try to over-moderate i allow a single post like this .. especially when its replied by fencer already .. so that should finish that conversation already

you then posted your comment .. which i asked you to do in a private message to the moderator .. as its the moderators task to redirect posts if needed

please take this into private messages with me as it doesnt belong on this board

if you want to continue this on a public board or in a fellowship, thats ok with me as well, but please send me a private message where that will be :)

any continuation of this topic should be done via private messages to me (or another moderate if you dont want to send it to me) .. any continuation of this on this board will be deleted .. sorry

Rose: ah too bad .. after a move i am taken back to the main page .. but not the test main page yet .. ah well .. its great looking so far!

(except the used-links .. i wish they were another color than the non-used-links)

Fencer: when i go into testmode .. and in there go to a game i will be taken back to the normal homepage (non-testmode) after my move

oldhamgirl: i only am thrown out of the site about once every morning .. which also seems to be the time when fencer puts up the link to the brainking.info news

not sure if thats connected though :)

Tulip: there are several hypergammon tournaments in which more than 1 player have the same score in the end .. they are all declared winner

i would guess the same would happen if a 2 player final would end in a draw ? but i have never been in such a situation .. maybe someone can find an example ? ;)

rappski: welcome to brainking!!
have fun playing the games

and chats ... may i redirect you to general chat for the rest of this chat ?

have fun! :)

BerniceC: if you want to continue this, please do so on general chat please (or inside a fs :)) ..

BerniceC: maybe you rolled the dice already before but didnt finish the move by filling it in on the sheet ?

now you came back to the game and all you could do was fill in the sheet and finish the move ?
(it would be unfair if you could roll again in that case ;))

BerniceC: at the top of the tournament page

you will arrive at this page

Fencer: 2nd part of 1st action :)

brainking seems not to be only one using brains as a currency :
http://www.faithworksonline.com/search/isbn/1878859374

yay! i was first! even though i forgot my paypal password and to renew it .. but i did it!
thanks fencer :)

nightmagic: disappearing graphics can be a cache problem .. or maybe even caused by a slow connection

does it always happen with the same persons ?

Czuch Czuckers: ok lets hope so :)

Czuch Czuckers: it has never happened to me either .. but i did come across something which might look quite similar ..

sometimes when i click on the 'roll dice' button it gives me the same dice again .. then i select the dice again and click on the button again .. sometimes it still shows the same dice after that ..

that way it might look like no roll has happened .. but in my case it was just the statistically correct chance that the dice might show the same numbers again (chance 1/6 per die, 1/36 for 2 dice)

i have my settings so that it shows a random tournament just above my waiting games .. once in a while it doesnt show any tournament though .. about 1/3 of the times i think ?

Gabriel Almeida: i sent chuck and rose a private message
my opinion is that personal matters between persons should be handled in private messages in the first place

now before everyone starts to interfere and we get 2 groups fighting (and a 3rd group watching, and a 4th group running away ;))

lets finish this 'discussion' with this post and if anyone really wants to say something else about this please send it to me in a private message (click on the envelop next to my name)

Czuch Czuckers: hmm not sure why you cant/couldnt offer the double ... it might have to do something that you cant offer a double on the very first move ? .. i am not sure though .. would have to test that

were you able to offer the double before you offered the draw ?
i think you can remove the draw offer (?) so you can try again ?

Dolittle: only 1 message per unique id per day will count

so if i post 3 messages on there, and you 4, then we will only add 2 to the total count for the visited boards list

(i think)

deadbunnysRfun: did you try to start 1 new game or a match consisting of more than 1 game ? or did you try to join a tournament ?
are you in a pond ?

Czuch Czuckers: which rankings page do you mean ? when i go to the ratings page i can see cheversi at the bottom of the chess game types

King Reza: i added a few lines to the description of this board. please tell me if you need more or want things worded differently :)

Czuch Czuckers: your opponent has set some vacation days
you can see that at her profile

MadMonkey: not happening to me, probably a problem with your browsers cache ?

naughtypawn: at the 1st of jan. the vacation days are renewed (so you will have your full 30 days again)

when you renew your membership your vacation days renew as well
(at least thats how it was when i renewed last time :))

King Reza: resetting a rating also makes it much easier to boost someone elses rating.

play a few games, gain a high rating (if you fail, reset and try again), lose to a friend, boosting his rating, repeat this :)

"GERRY": thanks :)

"GERRY": :)now dont be this cruel .. :)
continue it ont the chat board please .. fencer might see your teasing less .. better for his pride ;)

MadMonkey: *nod* i would definetly love a final match with different game types (in a non knockout tournament), i know that when i come across some chess types in a random tournament that i am very likely to lose those, i wouldnt like it if i played all kinds of games and just come across chess in the finals

its not supported though and requires quite a different setup of the matches

its not supported right now, although i would love to see it :)

MadMonkey: are you talking about the game of tablut in the knockout tournament ? thats not a 3 games match, and as its a knockout tournament each match counts as a final ... lose it and you are out .. so whenever you come across a game you dont know in such a tournament you have bad luck

MadMonkey: i think they are all the same .. its a tournament with all random games types per match, the final is 1 match, although it can exist out of more games

pabloca: its ok, thanks for the messages, it shows a good character :)

have fun :)