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Jim Dandy:given the choice, I wont let someone stick their hand in my pocket...just to see if their taking or putting. Blind followers is what democrats are hoping for! why else would they scream "our country needs this" yet they cant provide us with the information on how putting our country another 8 billion in debt, is actually going to help curb the giant snowball thats forming. and whos going to pay this additional debt???
Jim Dandy: It's not garbage to criticize it. Obama and his crew are trying to ram this bill down out throats when clearly it's a huge mess. It's not just Republicans that are calling attention to the problem, economists are too. Why spend all that money without careful analysis of the ramifications of each measure?
Jim Dandy:Not judging his "record" but judging his most recent actions and decisions. Not a good start. He's shown great skill at campaigning, not so much as a leader, so far.
His recent comments aimed at Republicans who had criticized the "stimulus" package as nothing more than a "spending" package displayed a side of Obama people haven't seen much of. He showed a lack of leadership and demonstrated he is not above using mockery and sarcasm to blast his opponents. Yeah, that will win them over.
The problem is, thinking people understand that what the Republicans were pointing out by calling it a "spending" package, is that the so-called "stimulus" package will not do the very thing it is supposed to do. As Bwild has pointed out, it's a pig with lipstick. All the "spending" attached to the stimulus bill is just a repeat of old failed economic policies the democrats are famous for. Pet projects and paybacks to political supporters are NOT going to create the kind of jobs that benefit the man on the street. Most Americans view Obama's plan with doubt and most also agree that the democrats crafted it with unnecessary "spending." The republicans are just trying to draw attention to the fact that spending money for the sake of spending isn't the answer the American people are hoping for. Anyone can "spend" but it takes real leadership to spend it in the right way. Obama has failed in a big way here. This stupid idea (crafted by the dems) will not only fail, but it will put the US economy in a worse state. But hey, Obama can always blame Bush once again.
"at this point it hasn't had time to fly or flop in its intended forum".........how will this package stimulate our economy?? increase welfare and food stamps?? make sure people who cant afford cable or sattalite tv can watch the propaganda channels?? buy new vehicles for government officials??... our country needs jobs... build roads...provide new business incintives..improve mass transit...water,sewar,..its not rocket science.
anastasia: The thing is, how little time it has taken him to show so many signs of ineptitude! One would have thought that he could have held it together for at least a month without any major gaffs?
Problem for him is he is trying to do too much way too fast, and he keeps tripping all over himself....
Bernice: I personally am not judging him based on the fact he has been in office,what,a lil over a MONTH....just like I didn't judge Bushy-poo from the get go too
Artful Dodger: OMG YOU'RE RIGHT! he is the FIRST President to have done ANYTHING like this...SHAME ON HIM! it's all polotics no matter WHO is in there,nature of the beast
Bernice:It is very scary times. The far left democrats are very dangerous people. They will change America if they can and destroy the Constitution. And the people will be like lemmings and follow follow follow. Obama's popularity will take a nose dive before his term is into it's 2nd year.
Artful Dodger: that is terrible and the last paragraph isnt very good is it, considering his 14 day tenure.......
And how did the 44th President react to the growing public dismay over the mess he was making? He threw his toys out of the pram -- or perhaps that should read, he got into the pram. For he fled the scene of the disaster and sought the company of seven year-olds instead. As the Telegraph reported:
‘We were just tired of being in the White House,’ he told a group of excited seven-year-olds before discussing Batman and reading them a book.
Tired of being President – after two weeks!
Tax cheats, pork-barrel politics, ancillary child abuse, incompetence, chaos, treachery and infantilism. America – what have you done?!
Czuch: Yep, she's using those kids to get rich. She probably knew that she'd make a ton of money doing this. But she put 8 lives at risk. It could have been a far different outcome. They could all be dead or retarded or handicapped in another way. She already had 6 kids. What did she need with 8 more? She's irresponsible to the max.
Gotta wonder what she is doing with two different PR firms representing her too????
These slime balls are just waiting to get a piece of the huge payday she is going to get because of them... This woman is going to rich selling her so called "story" and so are the PR firms representing her.
Artful Dodger: hey that is a good idea.....ROFL.........they are advertising a "hair replacing" thingy on the TV over here....I just looked thru the TV programmes to find it but cant...when I do I will tell you what it is called :)
I did read somewhere that scientists have found a way to fertilize an egg using a woman's DNA (something like that) but it's not a perfected process. They are able to make a "sperm" with another woman's DNA.
Ok, fine. So two lesbians could theoretically have kids this way. Then it would be true that a woman doesn't need a man (except it's men who discovered this process).
And we've already had a pregnant man (sort of) so I guess men don't need women either.
It's a scary world out there! Science is changing everything. And the potential for abuse is staggering.
she is obviously a woman who wants to prove to the world that she doesn't need a man ROFLMBO........the tax-payer will pay for those kids, and she will be living in absolute luxury, just you mark my words LOL
Artful Dodger: I have the nightly news on in the background and I THINK he said they medical bills alone for the babies will top one million dollars??!! OMG you have got to be kidding me...I don't understand HOW she was able to be implanted with ONE let alone more.
Snoopy: What she did was irresponsible. She can't afford those kids. Now she has 14. Lives with her parents in a three bedroom. And it's all because she doesn't want to be lonely. She could have gotten a puppy. One person can't possibly take care of all those kids. So the US taxpayers will have to foot the bill.
AFAIK, Britain has a law that you can only implant 2 embryos. The clinic that implanted 8 was irresponsible too. It's not enough to "love" children to raise them properly. They don't stay young and cute. I hope things work out but I feel sad for the kids. If things go bad, they will be the ones to suffer.
件名: Re: Pelosi's idea of what should be included in the stimulus package:
Artful Dodger:the whole thing is a joke. push push push by the democrats......then we'll fgure out what to do with it. it should have a name change from economic stimulas to baracks allowance.
件名: Re: Pelosi's idea of what should be included in the stimulus package:
Bwild: And Nancy Pelosi stands before the press and says that Americans are losing 500 million jobs a month. Um, there aren't that many people living in the US. Let's see, there are 305,758,372. Kinda like democrats that vote. More vote than are registered. More are registered than the entire population of any given State. So at least her math is consistent!
Artful Dodger: They say change is one of the true constants of the universe....... anyone who just stands still and does not move is practically dead... ie the unmoved mover or the moved mover.
Artful Dodger: ***I say good for me and bernice! ;)*** and Im like you....no one tells me when or where to spend...when I need something I will pay for it but spending for the sake of spending is a waste of money....