why? was he the one that thought people were cheating?

Nope, he said he wouldn't have been able to make his moves every day. I changed it to a 2-days-per-move pond a couple of minutes ago, so hopefully he'll sign up.

10 wins?????????? Dang I'm still working on 10 games. Some of you guys have just about mastered this game! "BRAVO"

Yea, when you start to pay attention to what the higher ranked players are doing - almost every time it looks like they start out "bad".

For example, this pond: http://brainking.com/en/Pond?g=451

4 players rated over 2500 - highest after 2 rounds, 13th place. Then 15th, 15th, and 19th.

They must be doing something right!

BIG BAD WOLF:I think I have been trying to play too close to the edge too early in the game, trying to save 10 points, when a lot of people are still staying close to the edge. After all of them fall in, if your playing close, the greater the chance you aren't going to be around for the finish.

Watch Foxy Lady. She bids high constantly and winds up in the final 5 a lot of the time. Staying in the middle or favoring the bottom 1/3 is what I have recently been trying to do.

I haven't finished enough games yet to know for sure if this is good strategy.

http://brainking.com/en/Pond?g=337

why would AndreFaria bet so many points thereby giving me the game?
Not that Im complaining but it does seem strange:(

Andre thought Molly would bet more than what you had left and wanted to secure the first place by betting one point more than what Molly had left. It was not a pointless and nonsensical bet from him, he was just unlucky...in these situations you never know...I have already said somewhere that I find these decisions (3 people left in a pond with very high amounts of remaining points) the hardest ones at all in ponds....

Pedro Martínez: Thanks Pedro....I knew my recent luck had to change shortly :)

I now have the grand total of 2 wins ROFLMBO :)

well done, Bernice...:D

Yea, Andre Faria was in a bad situation. And like Pedro said, it's very hard to figure out bets like that when everyone has so many points left - even though that is probable the first time I've seen the last 3 players all over 10,000 points.

BIG BAD WOLF: probably

Yep, it was like Pedro and BBW said. In the actual rating system of ponds, I wanted to secure 2nd place more than risking and trying to won the pond.

Anyway, I think the actual pond rating system could be improved. It would be more fair giving some extra points, for instance, to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd of the pond. This way it would prevent those who make high bets, with no chances of winning the pond, but achieving good BKR on the game...

Before knowing that ponds would be rated, I was taking some more risks to win the pond. I fell off the pond for several times with 5/6 players left, ´cause I made some small bets, trying to get lucky and win the pond. But now I rather prefer not to win the pond and achieve an higher BKR... So I take less risks in my bets...

Thanks for the dark ponds variant!
Hopefully they will be rated seperatly from regular Ponds?

Andre Faria: Well since you have no wins yet, it seems that your earlier strategy wasnt working very well anyway :) and looking at your ranking, it doesnt seem like you have gone out too early in many games either!

Czuch Chuckers: Yes.

Fencer: That´s fantastic

Czuch Chuckers: As a matter of fact I have won some ponds. One of them created by you, in honour of Terri. So I don´t understand your remark...

And it´s just when there are 5 or 6 players left that risk must be taken, in my opinion...

Hmmm.. No way to keep people out of these, obviously. (Like creating ones just for your fellowship... Which is why we need to have the ability to do this within fellowships! )

What happens in the discussion in these ponds? Do people's names show up there? If not, I worry that people will take that opportunity to say inapporpriate things anonymously...
Of course names may take away part of the "darkness".. so maybe there should be no discussion on this version?

Just some thoughts..

rod03801: The names will be replaced by question marks even in the discussion.

Call me a pesimist, but I see potential problems with that! .. or will the names show up after the pond is over? That might help a little...

I call you a pesimist. The names of fallen players show up.

LOL..
Guess I need to get out of Moderator mode..

rod03801: Add a wolf smiley after every comment and nobody can recognize you.

I've noticed that when I sign up for a dark pond, my own name still is in the list - well since the list is orginized by rating, and lets say I'm close to the top in ratings - I could make some good guesses on who else is in tournaments with me.

BIG BAD WOLF: Yes.

BIG BAD WOLF: It's possible to get this info from people's profiles as well. Would it be cheating to use a web robot to dig that info out automatically?

oh my word, theres dark ponds, ::runs off::

lol i'm so slow at noticing things like these.

Furbster :

It was add today :)

BIG BAD WOLF: the list are not organized by rating, at least not in dark since no games have been finished yet and everyone has an equal rating

Vikings: Yea, not yet - but I was thinking of later. But like Luke said, it is also listed in the profile. So you can figure out who is in a pond with you, but just don't know which bet is theirs.

How exactly do dark ponds work? Is it just the details of the players which are hidden or are bids, points left etc hidden too? That's what I would call a NIGHTmare.

Mike UK: Only names and BKRs of running players are hidden. Points left and bids are visible, so are all information about fallen players.

Fencer: OK. Thanks.

BIG BAD WOLF:Your right unless they bid 1 or it's got to the point of 0.

That shows me that some sort of time should be shown,or avalible to stop the corruption of cheating.

I like the new Submit and... options!!

I am surprised that no one has been moderated in here yet for being "off topic" for talking about the new multi player game Run in the Dark on a board for run around the pond ;)~

Before you do get banned, I have a fellowship that is for all the multi player games on brainking, including the newest addition, and all others that may be added in the future....

all are welcome to join!

Ponds Plus Fellowship

sshhhhh LOL

Thanks to what ever Glob or Fencer who added the ratings link in discription :o) and the other alteration

since we were recently talking about not being punished for bad bets. perhaps we should implore a punishment for excessive bonuses. some people jstu like getting bonuses. ive seen some get it 5 in a row. they lost of course but beat players who were legitimately trying to win the pond. So perhaps you can get a -1000pt loss for winning more than 3 in a single pond., it would make the end games more interesting. people would have to make there bets much more carefully and the guy cant jstu force the win with 5 people left liek many ponds are. b/c a guy might lose say 1000pts (or whatever number you decide) for getting another bonus.

Nothingness: So you think that the reason we get so many ridiculously idiotic bids is because people have a bonus fixation? That would be sad.

Not a bonus fixation. But for going further in the pond, even without having any chances of winning it. They achieve more BKR points this way. It´s just strategy...

I see the rules;but I still do not understand how they work. Could someone explain?

tedbarber: (1) Never have the lowest bid in a round. (2) Be the last man standing.

+(3) Be a paying member.:)

LOL

A Pond for Runners with LESS than 10 Wins #1

A Pond for Runners with LESS than 10 Wins #2

Pedro Martínez:
Is it possible for a draw on a pond,your full of draws.

MASTERMIND: eh?

Pedro Martínez: