Universal Eyes: No, I have no clue what you're talking about.

Let me take it step by step:
Once upon a time, I saw you viewing this game, which is a game where your father refuses to realize that there's no way he can win it and doesn't accept my draw offers. I sent you a PM, asking you what do you think about this game. That's it. Nothing else. No connection whatsoever to ponds. Why the heck are you bringing this up?

In another game, I told you I didn't like cloak mode because it disallows me to see what my opponents are doing when we play our games move after move. Period. Nothing else. Now can you please explain to me why are you talking about this on a board that is dedicated to ponds? And what does this mean?
1. that person has told me that they hate the cloak mode,which use to allow them to get moves from other players instantly

2. the've been caught with proof on more then 3 occasions

I want you to explain it.

Universal Eyes: I've just noticed you edited your post with the info on the fact that I won three of your ponds in a row and twice...is that what you call "caught with proof"...can I ask you with proof of what? Dig as deep as you want....

Universal Eyes: You just admited you noticed,i modified my post,is that not what you said when i was viewing a game?

What?

Congratulations to the winners,point system will be calculated as soon as i catch up on my games.

#1 Erinity
#2 fra
#3 Mach Machovic
#4 Mach Machovic
#5 grenv
#6 basplund
#7 basplund
#8 Scooter
#9 basplund
#10 not finished
#11 not finished
#12 Pedro Martinez
#13 Pedro Martinez
#14 Pedro Martinez
#15 Maria Anna
#16 Monica
#17 TIGER005
#18 Vikings
#19 Nina
#20 basplund
#21 TIGER005
#22 Pedro Martinez
#23 Pedro Martinez
#24 Pedro Martinez
#25 MASTERMIND
#26 unfinished
#27 Pbarb2
#28 Vikings
#29 Pedro Martinez
#30 tonyth

Thanks to all who have participated,and continue to have fun and enjoy.

Your friend
Mike :o)

Czuch Chuckers:I'm begining to wonder why other people like to view other peoples games anyways,and don't like cloak mode why?

MASTERMIND: those are 2 differing issues ... people look at other peoples games when they try to find a system in their moves .. probably to find a weakness when playing against them, or to learn from them when they think those players are good players

people dont like cloak mode because they are a bit paranoid and want to know what other people are doing .. they want to see if they arent being watched themselves, etc. ... and some people dont like cloak mode because they cant see if their opponents are online playing games at that moment or doing something else (like reading boards, managing their fellowships, etc.) so they know if they have to stay around a bit longer in case their opponent makes a move in their games

I've included single wins for these as so few games have been completed so far.


Rank…..Played ..........Won ........…….......... Rating
..1 ..............3 ................1 ..........33.3%.......... Unrated .......... Mach Machovic
..2 ..............3 ................1 ..........33.3%.......... Unrated .......... Skittles
..3 ..............6 ................2 ..........33.3%.......... 1640P ............ furbster
..4 ............23 ................5 ..........21.7%.......... 2065P ............ Pedro Martínez
..5 ............14 ................3 ..........21.4%.......... 1848P ............ Matarilevich
..6 ..............5 ................1 ..........20.0%.......... 1626P ............ Ferjo
..7 ............20 ................3 ..........15.0%.......... 1708P ............ BIG BAD WOLF
..8 ............16 ................2 ..........12.5%.......... 1466P ............ karij
..9 ............17 ................2 ..........11.8%.......... 1752P ............ Pbarb2
10 ..............9 ................1 ..........11.1%.......... 1266P ............ Andre Faria
11 ............11 ................1 ............9.1%.......... 1453P ............ Maxxina
12 ............13 ................1 ............7.7%.......... 1585P ............ Nothingness
13 ............13 ................1 ............7.7%.......... 1645P ............ arpa
14 ............14 ................1 ............7.1%.......... 1182P ............ Arctic Warrior

MASTERMIND: I like watchin other people's games to improve my own game mostly, particularly games like Atomic Chess where there isn't a lot of theory. Professional chess players don't get to hide their games. :)

this is agreat learning tool. you must be bale to view games. It will also improve your game as well. In espionage though its nearly impossible to view games b/c of secrecy.but you can still track a dark pond if you are willing to put in the time and write down every move by every player.

MASTERMIND: I have nothing to hide.. I may look at someone's game when..
#1 the game is brought to my attention..
#2 If I am being challenged by someone I have never played..
#3 When I know someone is watching me.. I will so that I can watch them lQQking at the same places I have just lQQKed! LOL

2245 My "NEW bkr on ponds!

Now what happens? You go on an unexpected vacation and what happens?

ClayNashvilleTn: Way to go clay.... quick sign up for my 2200+ pond before you arent eligable again!

grenv:Why is there a section implemented by Fencer to play privite games.where no on can view your game?Hrqls you made perfect sense and have my respect,as you already are a mod of one of my fellowships,you get to the issue at hand and it's greatly respected.

Scarlet don't ever ask my Father for his email again and let him tell me he seen what he seen at th Motel,and right after you requested a family set of pictures you did'nt even wait for the 2nd one to go through before you deleted the account,would you like me to page it for you of the scanner?

You can play some of the people some of the time but your really playing with fire if you try it with me,are you ready to play.lol

And when you refer to some of the places you just look can you please explain what you were just looking at,i'm sure CC and several people are waiting for your reply,don't worry your not on trial yet.lol

Universal Eyes: I have no idea why that feature exists. I don't believe it is in the spirit of the game. Can you explain in words that actually make sense?

I would like to let everybody know that the name of this board is "Run around the Pond".

Pedro Martínez: Oops, I thought this was the room for abuse.

grenv: Speakng of abuse don't ever leave me a nasty message on a pond again.

I just don't get it, that's all, and it drives me nuts that I can't figure it out.

grenv: Thats no excuse try using the brain in your head,instead of the one you sit on.I'm sure you wouldn't like it if a message like you posted to me was posted to you for all to read.

well i did censor it, and in my opinion you're spoiling the game. But I guess it's just my opinion.

You can say what you like about me I don't care in this forum.

grenv: No Comment

no i came here for an arguement! no you didnt yes you did... you didnt just say no it isnt. yes i did, no you didnt. i came here for an arguement no you didnt you came here for an arguement. ahh whatever. im still noticing foolish bids by the same old people in the rain ponds as well. i guess some people just dont understand, or have no concept of the ponds.

This is abuse, arguments are second door on the left.

grenv: -

ClayNashvilleTn: well you can allot someone to go into your account daily and play your games.. I do that for Ogopogo

Universal Eyes: Dang!! all I was doing was responding to his question.. geez!!
"MASTERMIND (hide) Re:ponds 16. June 2005, 23:13:15
Czuch Chuckers:I'm begining to wonder why other people like to view other peoples games anyways,and don't like cloak mode why?"

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You know UE.. you need to chill a bit, and quit taking what I say or anyone else for that matter out of context.. quit making a mountain out of a mole hill.. and quit being so dang defensive..

as far as what you think I had done.. I have not a clue what you are even suggesting.. perhaps if you took a deep breath.. and tried to make sense I could understand it.. and I am referring to this statement you made..

" Scarlet don't ever ask my Father for his email again and let him tell me he seen what he seen at th Motel,and right after you requested a family set of pictures you did'nt even wait for the 2nd one to go through before you deleted the account,would you like me to page it for you of the scanner?

You can play some of the people some of the time but your really playing with fire if you try it with me,are you ready to play.lol"

I have very little contact between you and your father.. please don't mix me up with that other chick like one of you had before..

Lets take Pedro's advise from below - Lets go back to talking about Ponds.

I will start deleted messages if needed.

Thanks

Can I lgally get someone to play my ponds while I am on vacation? Is that unethical or is it ok for me to do that?

From the user agreement:
2. You are NOT allowed to let other people use your account. If you believe someone has access to your account, immediately change the password on your profile page.

Eriisa:"OUCH"

Wanted To borrow one lap top puter. It will enjoy 5 wonderful days in florida on the beach! CAUTIONUser will not be held responsible for spilt Bud Light or sand damage.

Eriisa: Well, the Czech version says it is not allowed to let "third persons" use my account. So I can use second persons...:)
j/k

Eriisa: you are kidding?? It says that in the agreement..? I had no idea..

ScarletRose: Ignoratia iuris neminem excusat. Better go and read the User Agreement (I should say "again" but that wouldn't correspond to your situation, would it?)

Pedro Martínez: Yikes!

Pedro Martínez: okay.. okay.. ya got me!! *sly sigh*..

ScarletRose: IMO.. if someone trusts someone enough to go in and make their moves so they don't time out in tourney games that should be the right of the customer.. especially if they are paying for their account..

he isn't going to just be gone for a week or two.. he ended up having to relocate for the summer where there is no connection.. and to get into town and hope to find someone with a puter to use.. well.. it isn't happening quick enough..

Now I am put into a situation where I feel uncomfy.. due to that not being on the agreement when I first became a member several years ago.. *Deep Sigh* I don't know if I should try and finish out his games.. or let each of them time out!

ScarletRose: I believe (s)he should time out of the tournament games. (S)he can always join more tournaments later.

If it's ponds I don't have a strong objection though. in a non-tournament game you should at least ask the opponent.

How's that?

i think in special situations people can go in and makes moves for your ponds. the user agreement is intended to deter people from hacking your account without your permission. but if you allow a "friend access" then its going to be ok. otherwise message boards are pointless b/c technically they are helping you in your games as well. so if i wanted to i could call up garry kasparov and ask him what i should do for my next move. that is the same as someone having access to my account. Here in the Us it would probably be a violation of your civil rights to not allow another access. It would take a contract lawyer to figure out the complexities.

Nothingness: Nonsense, contractual agreements between the owner of a site and the paid members are not covered by civil rights! We're not intending to put those people in prison, only kcik them off the site. Please!

On the other hand the point about a friend logging in is a good one, for the purpose stated below i think it's ok in moderation.

Politics debate board

I just found this board today. Aren't you guys lucky?

ScarletRose:Fencer gave all paying members the same amount of holiday time,i've used mine up,and lost many,many games since!!! Important ones to,this site is about fun and gamesmanship

First: It's not really fair to the other player if instead of playing the person they are meant to, they are playing "ringers" - who may play differently, or worse - beter then the person they are replacing.

Second: Except for ponds (and new tournaments without vacation days) - On this site it should not be a big deal. Just set some vacation days and use them - there should not be a need for someone else to play your games.

Thrid: This is the pond board, and we are quickly getting off the subject. Can we please move the conversation to another board? Thanks!

BIG BAD WOLF: Its about ponds because those are the games clay want to let someone play for him....

It would be nice if Fencer or someone with authority would just come say that having someone log into your account to play a pond move for you while you are away from the computer for awhile, is against the brainking user agreement and therefore not permitted!
That would end any specualation about the intent of the wording...

BIG BAD WOLF:Simply all a am saying,do not sign up to ponds if your not going to be availible to play by yourself,NOT SOMEONE ELSE.

BIG BAD WOLF: he has better stats than I.. but, anyhow I put him on auto vacation.. he will more than likely time out.. so lucky you that are left get to wait it out.. unless he gets to a library.. Now.. back to the pond game..

SMART ALX: I agree.... I think a good 75% of the games where I have fell in the pond prematurly have been due to me not being able to play my turns :(

I am sure I am not the only one like this either. I know Pedro said he had a slew of games like that when he missed a day or two. I think everyone will have ponds like this, so it isnt really fair to allow someone else to do your moves for you. Just take your lumps, and if you are good, you shouldnt have any problems getting your rating back.

Also if you know you are going to be gone for a day or so, you can try to bid higher then normal - a bid that will hopefully keep you in the game until you can get back.

It might not leave you in the best position at the end of the game, but can at least keep you in the game (and you have to be in the game to win a game!)