Fencer: true .. i know about that .. i just posted it because errorsafe is a problem

errorsafe takes over the window, and it requires quite some clicking to get rid off .. you can easily misclick and install some software from them

i had another ad which also took over the window and on which my avg detected 3 virusses .. i dont know which ad that was though, or which site contained the virusses .. will log it next case it happens

somehow something changed in the ads as this didnt happened about 2 weeks ago (i think), but now i get it about once a day

Hrqls: Tracking cookie is not a spyware. It's just a cookie, nothing but a tiny harmless text file. I know that Spybot marks them as "problems" but they are not. Almost all sites on the web store cookies on your computer.

Universal Eyes: could be .. but we will let fencer take care of it .. no need to create a hunt for the invisible (to us)

Universal Eyes: its not a name of a person
its one of the ad companies

there is not a member on brainking causing trouble in this
i wonder what you are talking about, but please send it to me in a private message

i did the same test again, ran spybot, went to brainking, made a few moves (other games), closed brainking, ran spybot again

this time i didnt get a bad ad (which would take over my window or cause my antivirus to react) .. but spybot did find something again:


TagASaurus: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

FastClick: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

Tradedoubler: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

Fencer: thanks! that would be great!
it happened again to me today

yesterday i use adaware and spybot search & destroy to clean up my pc
after that i didnt use the internet anymore
this morning i used spybot s&d again and found nothing extra (as expected) (only that my antivirus was not controlled by microsoft which is correct :))

i then went to brainking and made some moves, the errorsafe ad took over my brainking window again when i tried to make a move in my dicepoker game

after that i ran spybot s&d again and it found some items:

Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.AntiVirusOverride: Instellingen (Registerwijziging
., fixed)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center\AntiVirusOverride!=dword:0
ErrorSafe: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

TagASaurus: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

ErrorSafe: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

DoubleClick: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

ErrorSafe: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)

MediaPlex: Tracking cookie (Internet Explorer: mamo) (Cookie, fixed)


--- Spybot - Search & Destroy version: 1.4 (build: 20050523) ---
2005-05-31 blindman.exe (1.0.0.1)
2005-05-31 SpybotSD.exe (1.4.0.3)
2005-05-31 TeaTimer.exe (1.4.0.2)
2006-05-09 unins000.exe (51.41.0.0)
2005-05-31 Update.exe (1.4.0.0)
2007-01-15 advcheck.dll (1.2.1.0)
2005-05-31 aports.dll (2.1.0.0)
2005-05-31 borlndmm.dll (7.0.4.453)
2005-05-31 delphimm.dll (7.0.4.453)
2005-05-31 SDHelper.dll (1.4.0.0)
2007-01-02 Tools.dll (2.0.1.0)
2005-05-31 UnzDll.dll (1.73.1.1)
2005-05-31 ZipDll.dll (1.73.2.0)
2007-03-14 Includes\Cookies.sbi (*)
2006-12-08 Includes\Dialer.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\DialerC.sbi (*)
2007-02-07 Includes\Hijackers.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\HijackersC.sbi (*)
2006-10-27 Includes\Keyloggers.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\KeyloggersC.sbi (*)
2004-11-29 Includes\LSP.sbi (*)
2007-02-14 Includes\Malware.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\MalwareC.sbi (*)
2007-01-19 Includes\PUPS.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\PUPSC.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\Revision.sbi (*)
2006-12-08 Includes\Security.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\SecurityC.sbi (*)
2007-02-02 Includes\Spybots.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\SpybotsC.sbi (*)
2005-02-17 Includes\Tracks.uti
2007-03-14 Includes\Trojans.sbi (*)
2007-03-14 Includes\TrojansC.sbi (*)


i didnt use the internet for anything else than brainkin in between my 2 runs of spybot s&d

(ok i also visited google.nl as its my startpage)

i hope brainking will be without these nasty ads again soon :)
(i dont mind ads, but these take me away from the site (the brainking window is overtaken, and several programs detect threats, once even 3 virusses (viri?))

srnity: probably

nodnarbo: Because you have this computer "set" to log-in automatically?

Fencer: On this computer I never have to click the login button, it logs in automatically. I'm not sure why it does that, because it doesn't on the other computer I play on.
Also, with firefox, I don't have any ads at all, with one exception, I let the google ads through, they are good. I find everything else annoying. I suggest looking into ads from google.

Gordon Shumway: I've just asked the ad provider to block all inappropriate ads for our site. It can take several hours to become active.

i just recently switched to fire fox and i got some strange ads that pop up when i come to brainking that my comp and anti virus has fits about some times have to close fire fox browser and reopen it

I posted a bug last November about 'Move and goto next off-line player'.
Its a very useful one to use to get your games down, playing the people who are not here.
Sadly it picks up games of people who are here, but using cloak.
Surely, the idea is not to pick those games up either as they are online.
Now you have closed the bug report saying it is not one, could you please explain to me what it is then
True it does pick games up of people not here, BUT it also picks people up who are here using cloak.
I was one of the people who requested this option and certainly did not expect or want it to do that

Fencer: Not when he's logged in. But the first time he visits the bookmark after opening the browser he isn't logged in and will see the ads. But since this is the case only once or twice a day, he doesn't want to keep an extra bookmark for that.
Anyway, the point is that one sponsor seems to behave really bad, and to even be a potential security issue for BrainKing users, which is somewhat very undesirable.

Oceans Apart: lol .. nah .. when its during work i have no problem .. it just showed when i was having a legal break :)

Hrqls: Maybe because your using BK during work hours , it is trying to tell u something

Hrqls: hmm .. just got it again .. but while being logged in
i made a move in a game .. and arrived at the errorsafe page which asked me wether it could scan my computer

will check my system for any adware/spyware and see if it finds anything
(would be weird as this is my computer at work and all i do is work and visit brainking and dailygammon)

Fencer: i havent disabled all banner ads .. as i want to get actions point (although i wont win by far .. its just fun ;))

the ads arent a problem .. but it did gave me a popup screen (or even replaced the brainking page by something else) .. while the ads normally dont do something like that

the main problem though is that it gave me a page with a virus on it .. it popsup and doesnt show brainking

i tried to get it again ... but failed
it showed when i logged in this morning (after being away from work for the weekend)
i cleared all and manually deleted all cookies .. it showed me the english login .. i logged in .. and all was fine

will see if i can find out more next time it happes
(probably this afternoon at home :))

Hrqls: Impossible. If you disabled all banner ads at the Settings, BrainKing simply does not generate any ad code for you. It's a server side feature.

Fencer: it seems to happen to me while logging in
(from the brainking.com page)

rabbitoid: But if you are logged in, you should see no banner ads at all.

Fencer: Yeah, that's what I wonder as well. I also have the gamelist page bookmarked. That's the page I most often use. As long as I don't restart the browser, it brings me directly to the page I need. But after a browser restart the same page is in guest mode yet it knows my username and password. (And I have configured my browser to not remember the password for brainking.com).

I agree with rabbitoid, what's the point of bookmarking http://brainking.com when that's most of the time not what you want, and the gamelist page is what you want?

Fencer: i always use brainking.com ... it also gave me the bad sites

when i go to brainking.com i arrive at the login page .. no problem yet .. then i enter my username and password and login .. then the bad site will show

(it even showed a site which avg told me to contain a virus (or 3))

it doesnt happen to me the second time i go to brainking.com though

(maybe i am not logged in yet when i click on login .. so the site will show .. the next time when i enter the site via brainking.com it recognizes my cookie and doesnt show the bad sites?)

Fencer: yes, but only once. If the browser stays open, the next click on the GameList bookmark takes you to your page, not the guest page.

rabbitoid: Why do you need the GameList in guest mode? You must click the Login button anyway, no matter if it happens on the GameList or login page.

Fencer: That's why I have as a bookmark GameList, not BrainKing. What do I need the login page for, if I can just as well log in from the guestmode GameList page?

At home I do what I want, I leave a tab permanently on BK. at work (OK, OK, I know) I just take a peek from time to time, then kill the tab. so a bookmark is useful.

rabbitoid: Of course, where else should it take you? The URL with no additional parameters after the site domain always shows the login page.

Fencer: I don't think so. when, for example, while reading this forum, I click on http://brainking.com , it takes me to the login page, not the GameList page.

rabbitoid: Is it? It works for me with no problems. Is it possible that the Linux version of Firefox shows some differences, compared to the Windows one?

Fencer: I have the GameList page as bookmark, because the Brainking page asks every time for the password (even if it's only one click with password memorized), even if the browser stays open. The GameList bookmark does not.

ughaibu: I have been attacked by both of these at random times during my sessions on this site.

Error Safe came up when I tried to go to the tablut rules page, pretty much as Rabbitoid describes.

rabbitoid: You may be right, but the recommeded URL to bookmark is always the site entry point http://BrainKing.com

Fencer: you're right. It's not the login page. my bookmark points to the GameList page, and since I'm not yet logged in to the session, I'm in guest mode, with the login prompt on top. It's there where I have a banner, and sometimes the pest.

This ad takes over the whole browser so I can't log in, maximises the browser to more than the screen size (a nice gimmick) and adds a popup that firefox doesn't catch and that comes back when you first kill it. All in all, not the best publicity for brainking!

TarantinoFan: Our time will be changed on this Sunday.

Fencer: My clock on this site always showed correct until just recently when America went to Daylight savings. My bad for assuming the two were connected without proof.

At the moment my clock is showing 6.18pm (18.18) and the site clock is showing 17.15pm. According to the link I sent in my previous post my clock is correct and the site clock has for some reason set itself back an hour.

rabbitoid: On the other hand, the Login Page does not contain any banner ads or does it?

Not just Drive Cleaner, there's also Error Safe.

TarantinoFan: And what has an American time to do with the BrainKing time?

I always have my time set to the Czech Republic for some reason.

Just because America changed their times for daylight savings doesn't mean that Australia did! My time zone now says that it is an hour behind the actual time. We are still on DST in New South Wales at least.

Times across Australia

rabbitoid: I'll check it out.

We all know that Brainking is not a charity operation, it has to make a living. So we get banners and other stuff, et least as long as we don't log in as rooks. Fine by me. but  every once in a while I get as on my login page A major pain in the neck called DriveCleaner which invites me to install some stupid thing on my computer or else. Fencer, can you PLEASE get rid of at least this sponsor? This is just one step short of directly installing a voluntary virus on your machine. See, for example, This link.

It seems that the site has suddenly developed a penchant for trying to fix something that wasn't broken, and this was mentioned before without remedy nor response. For several days, (some) games have shown up on status pages with "move 0" in the move column. For games such as Espionage and Logik that require a preset, it makes sense, otherwise it's patently absurd.

As it stands now, the move numbers are correct in games which you're the second player, but wrong (one short) for games which you're the first player. BK is otherwise running excellently, but this is quite a frustration, particularly when I see "move 1" which leads me to believe a new event has begun, only to find I've already moved once and it's underway. Why was this counterproductive change in move numbers made? (If it was explained earlier, pardon me, I missed it.)

emmett:  I only see banners before I log in.

emmett: Hey play chess with me, and u wont get ya a*** kicked then

TarantinoFan: Well, aside from my point of view regarding banner ads for paying users, I do like your responses.

It doesn't matter anyway. Right now I'm getting my ***kicked at chess. That is a little more pressing of an issue for me.

emmett: guess!!!

Actually I was given my first bishop from an unknown donor. After that I paid for my 12 months rook. That is the only thing apart from a free game for paying that I have been given.

TarantinoFan: Yeah, but almost everybody gets no prize. How many have you won?

emmett: well action points= free prizes. Banner ads= money to pay for free prizes. Unfortunately that is the way the world works.

emmett: If we want action points we have to show the banners.

alanback: I never see them because of my membership. Do you have your settings set so that you can see the banners?