kaluza: I don't have a big problem with the rules the way they work now. The playing of Go requires a certain amount of courtesy. And the current rules force players to learn courtesy and sportsmanship.

Occasionally, this means asking Fencer to end a game. I'm sure this annoys Fencer, but he's been doing it for a while, so it can't be that bad. Previously on this board, it has been suggested that some members be appointed to adjudicate disputed games. I still think this is the best solution.
OK. I rest my case.
After all it is Fencers work to do, both, to implement new rules or to end games of unsportsmanlike players. I think this discussion did help him and I'm sure he'll know what to do (or don't do) with it. Thanks to all who contributed.

A note about Go in the blog today.

fakar10:

jurek: Erm, I guess I should write something before hitting send...

fakar10: Yes, very good post, and much-needed.

I can't see the pieces on my Go games anymore. There is a failure to download the complete page when I try to access a go game. Is anyone else having a problem viewing go games?

emmett: it looks like the img.brainking.com site is down... not a whole lot we can do until it's back up

Marfitalu: What's the question?

Why do people have to be so picky... I choose one dead less than my opponent wants... He wins but yet makes me complete all the dead spots... Does he want to brag and say that I was slaughtered...
Go Figure.... No wonder fencer put this game on here... Some people will not quit even if they have lost....

Rainbow Road:

I assume you're talking about your recent game with vacgo.

There could be a couple different reasons why.

One reason may be that vacgo is a relatively high-rated player and may be under the impression that the game score affects the ratings of the two players. On most go sites (e.g. cGoban has a mostly real-time system), final score greatly affects the two players ratings, not just who won and lost. I'm not sure whether or not BrainKing's rating system uses the score, but my guess would be that it doesn't.

Another possible reason is that he wants you, and anyone else who might look at the game, to understand how to score it properly. Playing a game by the wrong rules can get make for some bad play or frustration. I'm not saying you don't know how to score, but maybe he was under the impression that you didn't from not marking those stones as dead. I've seen some people playing on this site with a very bad understanding of the rules, which are a bit unorthodox compared to games like chess or reversi, and he may deal with it regularly.

I doubt it was an ego thing for him, but I've certainly seen worse things from people.

jurek: I agree the second reason, too.
I read it by google translate......:p

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I see that we have dan & kyu in Go.
Nice.

aaru: Yes, it's nice.
But the ranking is much too high compared with any other Go rankings out there.
In the current system the relation between BKR seems to be 100 BKR points for 1 grade:
0000 = 20k
1000 = 11k
1500 = 6k
2000 = 1k
2100 = 1d
I would find it much more suitable to have only 50 BKR point for 1 grade:
1100 = 20k
1500 = 12k
2000 = 2k
2100 = 1d (the same value as in the current system).
What do you think?

I play Go with Chrome.
The board is strange.....not correct......

Hello, I have a suggestion about go game here and I would like to hear opinions from others.

If game ended without marking and approving dead stones on board, no score estimation should be attempted - especialy if game ended by resign. Resign is resign, no need to count.

I got this idea when my first game here ended - Go (Dragonindio vs. motylek1978) - and to my suprise game engine half attempted to count score. It counted points "e1" and "a3" as points for opponent, which looks like kind of bug.

motylek1978: It looks like you are right. You should add this to the Bug Tracker, if it is not already there.

Hello go players,
I would be honored if any or all players from top 10 - http://brainking.com/en/Ratings?tp=79 would like to play unrated game of go with me. If you are feeling generous and would play with me, please do all settings as it suits you, only please make game unrated.

Thanks in advance for any kind response or challenge to me.

Yours Motylek1978 ;-)

jurek: it's not true the final score has any effect on rating on real-time sites such as KGS, IGS etc.

... playing Go on a board like the board from Sphere Froglet? (thus combining the A and T-files and the 1-19 ranks)There are no borders so there are lots of more ways to escape.

joshi tm: Go on a torus: can be played at www.littlegolem.net, with a fixed board size of 11*11.

Thom27: Is it fun?

joshi tm: Yes, I think so. Try it out :)

In this game, I think my opponent is scoring the board wrong. Go 9x9 (troydaniels vs. Honor.j)

I think that a5, b5 and b4 should also be mine, giving me an additional 3 points and changing a 1.5 point loss (as currently scored) into a 1.5 point win. Am I misunderstanding the rules, misreading how the board is shown, or is it scored correctly?

I am new to playing Go, so I could easily be mistaken.

Your question's answer is written in Go rules : Since the black player starts the game, he has a significant advantage. In order to balance it, a value called komi is subtracted from the black player score. It is 5.5 for a 19x19 board, 4.5 for a 13x13 board and 3.5 for a 9x9 board.

TAROU: Where you answering my question, or someone else? My question is not about the komi. It is about whether the three squares that I mention are squares that I am getting points for. They show up as green, not black, when I view the board, so I am assuming that the are not counting as points for me.

troydaniels: I understood what you had said.

Displaying your points are calculated including green ( A5, B5 and B4 ) squares.
Your points：
A9, A7, A5, A3, A3, A1, B5, B4, B2, B1, C6, C1, D3, D2, E2, E1 => 16 points
the opponent's captured pieces: 7
komi: minus 3.5
hence your score: 16 - 7 - 3.5 = 5.5

Will you understand my explanation?

troydaniels: Normally the game was over after move 32. b9. Black would not need to capture the three white stones, as they are dead. By capturing at a4, black places a stone inside own territory, reducing it by 1. This could make the difference between win and loss, though not in this case, where white wins anyway.

It is necessary to mark the dead stones after passing, so that the score is calculated right.

In tournament I play and wait for next round there is a player that stubbornly or just stupidly play and play and play and play. I messaged to him with request for ending his game, but after weeks he still play and did nothing. His game is obviously ended and he can do nothing fair(waiting for his opponent death is undoubtedly not) to win this game.
This man have "3 kyu" and game is here: "http://brainking.com/en/ShowGame?g=5457769".
Are there some possibilities to end this game(maybe sending message to admin) or cases like this are hopeless. This game can take many many months before finish.

Thank you! And Have a Nice Game! :-)