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Janus, Capablanca Random, Embassy Chess & the odd mention of other 10x8 variants is welcome too


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3. april 2005, 21:27:40
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
Walter, I want to publicly resign as moderator. Please remove me.

3. april 2005, 21:36:35
Walter Montego 
Onderwerp: Re:
Andromedical: Ah, sure, this comes as a surprise. I'll remove you right after I post this reply. I think you've done very well as moderator and will be missed. Are you sure you won't reconsider? Any reason for resigning, or you just looking for other things to do?

3. april 2005, 21:45:40
NOT a floosie 
Ok, guys, let's calm it down a bit in here please.

3. april 2005, 21:53:03
Pedro Martínez 
Onderwerp: I'll do the job for you, Ed
NOT a floosie's last game of Gothic Chess, from July 28, 2004.

http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=371554

And of her 81 active games, how many are Gothic Chess games?

0.

But thanks for telling us to calm down.

3. april 2005, 21:55:39
Eriisa 
Baiting will result in being hidden. Even mocking Mr.Trice. I understand where you are coming from, but lets not keep it going on.

3. april 2005, 21:58:54
votacommunista 
Onderwerp: Discussion here
Guys, can we please discuss now about Gothic Chess and not about what some Gothic Chess players whispered here?
Compared to other boards this board here often go into a flaming board.
So, please calm down and lets discuss about Gothic Chess! Many beginners asked me what in my opnion is a good opening system (NOT theory!) for Gothic Chess. Any hints?

3. april 2005, 22:04:04
Thad 
Onderwerp: Re: Discussion here
chessmec: Ed has LIED about what I did. I would like to see his post deleted.

And everyone should not gang up on NOT a floosie. She posted because she is a global mod.

3. april 2005, 22:13:03
NOT a floosie 
Until further notice all posts must be approved.


Pedro - Thanks for your concern regarding my chess games. I have only learned chess a very short time ago, and have played the variations very little. I'm pleased with my progress, and you are free to browse my profile as you wish.

3. april 2005, 22:12:41
votacommunista 
Onderwerp: Approvement now?
Is it now new here? The moderator has to approve postings? If this is so i will remove this board from my favourite.
(That is not against you, Walter!)

3. april 2005, 22:22:39
NOT a floosie 
Until the people on this board calm down it will be remain moderator approved posts only.

Legitimate posts will be approve. Harassing, insulting, baiting posts will not be approved.

3. april 2005, 22:10:09
votacommunista 
Onderwerp: Re: Discussion here
Thad: I am not a judge, dear friend. I do not know what got "public", but my opinion is the following: As you can not stop using program help here you can not prevent the copy and paste of messages, postings and so on.
Players and Boards have to live with this facts.

Any way: When I make a copy&paste from steamrollers to e.g. my website I can not see any point why i can not do this.

3. april 2005, 22:53:49
Chessmaster1000 
He he, most people would always fight for religions, politics, teams and in every other matter possible. About everything..........! They will always find something.......

I have never tried seriously, to find the reason. I will try to think about it a little. Does anyone knows it.....?

Personally i would never care less if someone insulted me even with the most ugly way, or said awful things about me(even lies).......I don't care!
It's a matter of world's understanding.......

3. april 2005, 23:03:53
Chessmaster1000 
Hey Walter hello,
since you approve the messages and this will not become visible(i wrote it instead of a personal message) i'm writing to express my thoughts, i see now you will have to do much work since you are the only moderator left and the most important: you have to approve all the messages.
Ugghh , too tiring!!!
I suggest you to change this for 2 important reasons:
1)It's awful(personal and not only, opinion)!
2)You will have to do a harder job.......

A better system will be: If you see something that you don't approve, then give a notice to the poster and if he repeats it, then you should just punish him for 1 weak or something........

3. april 2005, 23:45:14
Walter Montego 
Onderwerp: NOT a floosie
I'm not sure who she is, but somehow the Mode was changed without me doing it. Apparently she is able to do that without even consulting me. I'm not happy about this seeing how I've been online all this time and she could have sent me a message or two about her concerns. This board is nothing like it was last year and she is overreacting. I'm going to ban her from this board until I get some answer from her. As I was typing a long post concerning doing this very thing, I will leave what she has done in place for the time being. If she has the power to change the Mode, she might also have the power to unban herself and/or even remove me as moderator. Depending on her replies to me or what action she might take, I'll be talking to Fencer about the whole subject. I'm sure he didn't have someone like her abusing whatever power he has given her without even the courtesy of a note to the people involved.

3. april 2005, 23:48:37
Rose 
YOu can't ban a global mod.

4. april 2005, 00:02:11
Eriisa 
The global mods are trying to help you Walter!

4. april 2005, 00:14:06
bumble 
Right. Who wants to be moderator of this board?

4. april 2005, 00:22:59
Pedro Martínez 
Onderwerp: Re:
bumble: I do.

4. april 2005, 00:40:57
bumble 
Nightstorm and Pedro
Thanks and good luck!

4. april 2005, 00:53:18
Nasmichael 
Onderwerp: On topic
I want each of you to look at how much GC (Gothic Chess) is being played – and some of the good ideas that are being used in the games.

--on Apr 03-2005, we have these currently running tournaments…

Committee Gothic—Rex Nihilo, 4 players--Committee Gothic CrossTable




Ides of March—Ed T., 4 players.-- CrossTable

GC Xmas Giveaway—Ed T., 18 players--Crosstable

Middle Gothic—Tony H, 7 players--Crosstable

Under 1700 Ratings (Intermediates)—GC—Tony H, --CrossTable

GC $500.00 Ist prize, Free to Enter—Ed T., 57 players--CrossTable

GC Tournament under 1900 BKR—PawnMe, 8 players--Crosstable

Remembering Jestone—Bwildman, 15 players--CrossTable

2004 third quarter Open #1 GC—Walter Montego, 14 players--CrossTable

Shooting Fish in a Barrel GC—Bwildman, 16 players--CrossTable

Greenknight’s first GC Tourney—Greenknight, 9 players--CrossTable

March Medley—Nirvana—4 players-- CrossTable

That’s a lot of games, folks. That means that there are a lot of stories to tell. I would like to hear some of them. If you are playing in one of the games, post your side of the story—tell us about your favorite win, loss, or struggle. Any thoughts?

4. april 2005, 01:12:35
Nightstorm 
Ok lets start out fresh. Everyone can post again, but lets try to keep the discussion on the game of Gothic Chess itself not on personal attacks by anyone.

4. april 2005, 02:55:58
Grim Reaper 
Aangepast door Grim Reaper (4. april 2005, 02:56:19)
Thanks to BBW for acting like a responsible Global Moderator and effecting positive change.

Thad, I removed my posts regarding your incident. You are welcome to continue the conversation via PM with me.

4. april 2005, 03:46:40
Mort 
Goodnight Ed.

4. april 2005, 03:56:43
Grim Reaper 
Aangepast door Grim Reaper (4. april 2005, 03:58:46)
To all of those who have the 4-piece database version of Gothic Vortex, there is a .bat file with verification code in place. I discovered one position in the B + N vs. K slice of the database that needed to be recalibrated. There were about 16,000 errors in the Q vs. R database.

I narrowed it down to a post-computation, db compression error.

Therefore, it may or may not have effected others who have generated their own databases.

Send me an email and I will enclose the .bat with instructions on how to verify your dbs.

4. april 2005, 15:25:29
Grim Reaper 
Onderwerp: Live Gothic Chess Site
This Friday, "Gothic Chess Live" will debut. It is a separate site with real time play between participants.

Those who wish to give it a test run, send me a PM, I will respond with the link.

4. april 2005, 18:11:38
Nirvana 
Onderwerp: Re: On topic
Nasmichael: I included Gothic Chess in my tournament selection because I was asked to.

5. april 2005, 07:08:28
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. april 2005, 07:59:32
Caissus 
Onderwerp: moved from board
Aangepast door Caissus (8. april 2005, 09:39:12)
Nasmichael (4. April 2005, 00:05:01)
Message corrected.

Any favorite Janus games?

Current tournaments:


Birthday Bash ---5 Irishrose
Try something new ---jaha
Summer Time Is Coming --- Irishrose
Spring Is Here ---5 Irishrose
► ALL games for dummies (under 1500 & unrated) #8◄ ---5 BIG BAD WOLF
playing games --5 NikNack
All games tounament you name it,it's there. fun!! -- Universal Eyes
Best of the VERY Best! (All Games!) -- KevJon
All Games for M.M. --Mach Machovic
Chess Variants for Beginners --Seravajan
May Day all games tourny --snowhugs
May Mayhem -- Nirvana
THE HIT MANS OPEN GAMES -- THE HIT MAN
Å -- jaha
NikNack games #6 -- NikNack
maximum do 1500BKR --MJL
NikNack games #8 --NikNack


Of course, I haven't checked all of these sites to see if enough players have signed up to play Janus.
Reply Edit

8. april 2005, 05:59:55
Grim Reaper 
Onderwerp: 2005 Phila Open Creative Prize Category
At each Gothic Chess tournament, when there is a surplus in advance entries, we have two additional prizes offered. One is the "Brillancy Prize", the other, less stringently applied rules is for the "Wildest Game" Prize.

While the "Brillancy" Prize is voted by a panel on site, the "Wildest" game is voted for by all of the participants after the tournament has ended.

Here is this year's "Wildest Game" winner.

[Event "2005 Philadelphia Open"]
[Site "Phialdelphia, PA"]
[Date "2005.02.17"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Nigel Davies"]
[Black "J.D. Austin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNB
QCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1"]


1. Nh3 Nc6
2. d4 Nh6
3. d5 Ne5
4. Nc3 d6
5. f3 g6
6. g4 Bd7
7. Af2 Ni4
8. Cg2 Bg7
9. i3 h5
10. gxh5 gxh5
11. Bi2 Aj5
12. O-O O-O
13. Be3 Bh6
14. Qd2 Qc8
15. Ch4 Axh4
16. Axh4 Bxh3
17. Bxh6 Bxi2
18. Bxi7 Bxh1
19. Bxh8 Cxh8
20. Rxh1 Qd7
21. h3 Nh6
22. Aj6+ Kj8
23. Ai5 Ki7
24. Ah4 Kh7
25. Aj6+ Ki6
26. Ah4+ Kh7
27. Aj6+ Kg6
28. Qg5+ Kxg5
29. Ah4+ Kf4
30. e3+ Kxe3
31. Re1+ Kd2
32. Rd1+ Kxc2
33. Ae1+ Kxb2
34. Rb1+ Ka3
35. Ac2#

8. april 2005, 07:10:23
CardinalFlight 
That's amazing that he sees mate in 8 starting with a queen sac.

Are there any photos of this year's tournament?

8. april 2005, 07:39:32
Grim Reaper 
Was it forced? There are some on my digital cam somewhere.

8. april 2005, 07:42:40
Grim Reaper 
It's a shame Nigel lost in round 1, I did not get paired with him and he went undefeated after that. His wins were rather impressive, though some of his opening moves were a little off balance.

8. april 2005, 09:25:19
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
I thought I had posted this invitation in every chess variant. I don't see it in this board, so I thought that maybe I overlooked to do it, or it got erased.

A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins every chess variant. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

8. april 2005, 18:09:05
tedbarber 
Onderwerp: Re:
CardinalFlight: In game 406415;I sacrificed a queen for a mate in 13.

8. april 2005, 19:29:51
Chessmaster1000 
I didn't see the game yet, but if someone say "I sacrificed a queen for a mate in 13" it should mean: "I sacrificed a queen and from there a mate in 13 exist" and NOT: "I sacrificed a queen and then i mated in 13 moves".
I doubt you mean the first but we will see..........

8. april 2005, 19:31:11
tedbarber 
Onderwerp: Re:
Chessmaster1000: I did.

8. april 2005, 19:37:23
Nasmichael 
Onderwerp: Re: A shame Nigel lost...
EdTrice: Is this GM Nigel, or is it a Philadelphia local Nigel? (Or is that the same thing?)

8. april 2005, 19:39:05
Caissus 
Onderwerp: Re: A shame Nigel lost...
Nasmichael: It was Nigel Short ,of course.

8. april 2005, 19:42:33
Chessmaster1000 
Was him really Nigel Short?
Why in the PGN says Nigel Davis?????

8. april 2005, 19:59:31
Chessmaster1000 
Onderwerp: Re: Re:
Aangepast door Chessmaster1000 (8. april 2005, 19:59:56)
tedbarber:
Hmm, you didn't. You meant the wrong thing........:-)
After the queen sacrifice there wasn't any mate in 13.
For example after 25...Axf4+ if white played 26.Qxf4 there is no mate in less than 20 moves........

8. april 2005, 20:22:51
tedbarber 
Onderwerp: Re: Re:
Chessmaster1000: But Wizko was already far behind in material and that would have put him hopelessly further behind.

8. april 2005, 20:32:52
Chessmaster1000 
Aangepast door Chessmaster1000 (8. april 2005, 20:34:10)
Hmm, i think you didn't understand what i mean. You said that after your Queen sacrifice there was a mate in 13. I just said that it isn't! Nothing more nothing less........
And what i am saying, is that after the Queen takes the Archbishop there is no mate in 6 that is needed to have a mate in 13 from the point of the Queen sacrifice. White is lost either way and actually Qxf4 is the best move as then the Rook can take the black Bishop too........

8. april 2005, 23:23:14
Grim Reaper 
The person who paid the entrance fee was named Nigel Davies, that is all I know. I don't think he was a local player, I knew all of them.

8. april 2005, 23:53:18
CardinalFlight 
It is forced. If black deviates from the posted lines then he gets mated sooner.

9. april 2005, 04:43:45
Grim Reaper 
Why dont you guys play a non-rated game where you just agree to play the moves up to the part where the conclusion opinions differ, then fight it out, and let who is right come back for bragging rights?

9. april 2005, 05:55:01
Nasmichael 
Onderwerp: Re: A shame Nigel lost...
Caissus: ...and CM 1000 also, both Nigel Davies and Nigel Short are GMs, both British as far as I know; the Nigel Davies I was thinking of is also a writer and a correspondence player. I like his style, and his goals in his games. Just curious.

9. april 2005, 08:39:11
Grim Reaper 
Onderwerp: Re: A shame Nigel lost...
Nasmichael: This Nigel Davies was from California, according to his driver's license. I don't believe we had any Grandmasters in tournament at all.

9. april 2005, 09:03:55
Walter Montego 
Onderwerp: Re: On topic/ Running tournaments
Nasmichael: I had forgotten about the "Shooting Fish in a Barrel". It started July 20th? Many moons ago. It loks like 6 of us wouldn't be elgible to play because our ratings are outside the range now. I thought I was out of the tournament and hadn't given it much thought, but after seeing your post I went to the tournament chart to see who'd won. There's one game left running. It seems to me that it doesn't matter who wins this game, the winners of the section will be the same. I remember posting on the Feature Request discussion board about moving a tournament wqhen this happens. Quite a few other people posting opinions on it too. IN any case, it would appear that I will be making it to the next round when that last game is finally finished. This is assuming that I under the S-B thingy well enough to know that a three way tie will make all three people advance if each of them beat one of the other's opponent but lost to the other opponent, as is the case here. I'll try to remberhow to move the pieces in Gothic Chess if I do in fact make the next round. :)

Thank you for posting the tournaments. I hope this is one of them stories that you were looking for. I believe the game with me and Mely in that tournament was the best game of Gothic Chess that I've ever played and it was his first loss. I haven't done much since.

9. april 2005, 12:04:36
Chessmaster1000 
Onderwerp: Re:
CardinalFlight:

First: it is not a forced mate in 13 after the Queen sacrifice......

Second: i think you meant "white" instead of "black". (It is black that has the advantage.....)
If you don't mean that, then i think you are confused......

9. april 2005, 21:27:17
ChessCarpenter 
Onderwerp: Gothic Vortex Gold
Aangepast door ChessCarpenter (9. april 2005, 21:32:21)
This is the new version of a fanastic program with a very important feature...PGN import! The other new exciting feature is the 4 piece endgame tablebases, so you can practice countless endgame positions with perfect play. There are other new features, as well, so check out GothicChess.org for all your Gothic chess equipment.
By the way Filip has added the hyperlink for Gothic Chess just above for all to go to!!!

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