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17. juli 2004, 18:06:18
redsales 
Onderwerp: Re: endgame
Whisperz: at the time i was just hoping for a 2 pawn for knight endgame and a draw....the h7 pawn was the key because it was the only thing preventing perpetual check. Honestly though, I think Walter should have won the game in the middle game before the sac.

17. juli 2004, 18:08:55
redsales 
Onderwerp: Re: Draws
i totally agree. i know we both learned a lot from this game...me mostly by accident! And that wouldn't have happened with a draw. There's something really abstruse about goth that eludes me...you're right, it must be the way the new power pieces can gang up on a king. Makes it more ideal for the attacking player because of all the potential (knight!) sacs in the middle game.

17. juli 2004, 18:10:24
redsales 
Onderwerp: please help, inventor...
is archbishop vs. queen a win or draw? Tried and tried against vortex but probably my technique is flawed and i can't force a win.

23. juli 2004, 11:22:35
Caissus 
Onderwerp: Re: please help, inventor...
Redsales, a king/queen vs.king/archbishop ending is draw (normally) alike a king/rook vs.king/bishop ending.Excepted are special positions.

23. juli 2004, 15:08:25
redsales 
thanks Caissus..i hope i never have to play one though..

24. juli 2004, 19:46:18
Walter Montego 
Onderwerp: 2004 Third Quarter tournament
Starts September 25th. It's an open, all players are welcome. Hope to see you there.

25. juli 2004, 05:12:36
Kevin 

26. juli 2004, 07:45:12
redsales 
Onderwerp: GCWCC
GI, will we be able to watch the GCWCC live on gothicchess.org?

31. juli 2004, 10:53:37
redsales 
i'd love to, but my PC is pretty slow, even by normal standards...i hope you find someone though.

31. juli 2004, 11:47:26
Fencer 
What are the minimal hardware requirements?

31. juli 2004, 16:22:46
Fencer 
My notebook is 1.33 GHz Pentium III with 512 MB RAM and it's pretty fast to run any BrainKing simulations.

31. juli 2004, 17:27:16
danoschek 
Onderwerp: the P3 is a processor
the P4 is a failure. Intel and Microsoft are patentcheaters as we know. ~*~

31. juli 2004, 19:11:55
danoschek 
Onderwerp: but computer problems have an own board
Aangepast door danoschek (31. juli 2004, 19:13:16)
and I think actually - too many people focus on computer-capablanca here.
my personal opinion about the vortex program is known anyway. poor code,
C-64 graphics - the trial function does not even know about daylightsavings. ~*~

31. juli 2004, 20:05:17
danoschek 
Onderwerp: sure ...
Aangepast door danoschek (31. juli 2004, 20:05:51)
as previously mentioned it's not about denying facts ... :D - like I defeated
all the aces and kings of your silly gothic deck ... vortex was a punchbag ...
no strategy (well which program has anyway?) - disassembled in a few moves ... ~*~

31. juli 2004, 20:09:26
danoschek 
Onderwerp: I guess everybody with a tiny bit of clue recognizes C64-graphics
Aangepast door danoschek (31. juli 2004, 22:05:36)
your diffuse puberty rituals of fixative proving whatever are as low as your
board-habits - why not answer to the topic questions here ? btw calling a cheater
a cheater is a definition, it's no insult either, so you better don't demand reports.
Although you have not apologized for your poor performance silly me presumed a courtesy
of leaving it behind. Of course we know why indeed you sulk about going away - it's easy chicken out from true competition. I for my part won't feel pelled to having hectic games with running rabbits - no game until licence is renewed. Due to my precious reward as serious
player I prefer to brag only with complete games - if feeling urged to such, anyway ... ~*~ 0:)

31. juli 2004, 20:24:26
danoschek 
Onderwerp: and here my point about daylight savings yet
Aangepast door danoschek (31. juli 2004, 22:04:29)
before his usual insultive spam winds up to a riot again.
if you start the trial in the week between american and european
daylight savings, it assumes a cheat due to the difference. big deal ! for somebody
not obsessed by harrassing, a minor bug. but what do you expect, for funny reasons there
are people who demand money for underdeveloped betaware instead of paying testers. ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 00:03:19
Kevin 
My notebook is 3.06 GHz P4 512 MB RAM.

1. augustus 2004, 00:23:24
danoschek 
Onderwerp: mental illness is the main gothic topic actually
Aangepast door danoschek (1. augustus 2004, 00:23:44)
since you invented it. ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 00:25:35
Stevie 
Onderwerp: Coming from the worse Gothic Chess player on this site
I thought that was me? LMAO

1. augustus 2004, 00:25:46
danoschek 
Onderwerp: hmm odd, if I look at your picture, you boring and obsessive cusser
Aangepast door danoschek (1. augustus 2004, 00:38:23)
I would say - the processor should be being cooled sufficiently indeed.
although I would use that type as pocket-calculator only - sparefunction & low energy ... ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 05:27:54
danoschek 
Onderwerp: yawn
Aangepast door danoschek (1. augustus 2004, 05:29:40)
go figure why I'm like so afraid of such spammocrap and, why his 'mental stability'
was so overwhelming that he could not be trusted with managing a simple, subject-
oriented board hence was fired for permanent misuse. Chickenpost hoped I was away. ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 05:48:08
Thad 
Onderwerp: Moderator's first true test...
Walter, would you please take some action to try to put a stop to the endless pointless posts that are coming from these two.

Thanks,
Thad

1. augustus 2004, 05:54:10
danoschek 
Onderwerp: I second although the bugreport supporting the betatest was just due
Aangepast door danoschek (1. augustus 2004, 05:56:39)
but, I beg for being spared out from being cornered together with impaired ones, Thad,
hope you got me. The questions on subject remain: will that silly bug be fixed - plus has the code support for Athlon 64? Still I stand to my praise of P3-line as only Intel-Crafts ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 13:23:43
Walter Montego 
Onderwerp: RE:Moderator's first true test...
They're both knuckleheads!
Let 'em blow steam with this blather. I'm trying to understand each side, but I'm not having much luck. Are they fighting amongst themselves in a public forum. or are these posts real arguments to get me to agree with either one of them?
Hmm.. yes, obviously fighting. As for swaying me with eloquence and the power of logic and rhetoric, they're both doing real bad in that respect.
In fact that's what's missing, respect! You guys (GothicInventor and danoschek) are just wasting eveyone else's time with these type of posts. I really don't care, but it appears that some readers here do. It has humor to me to watch this kind of fighting. I also like the Three Stooges type of humor, so I'm not sure if getting me to laugh at one's posts is a good thing or not.
Come on Thad, they got you to post in response. This is a fairly quiet board without them posting to it. Since I was installed as moderator this board has had a dearth of posts until yesterday. I suppose we'd all like a higher quality of posts, but we get what we pay for.
Which is better? No posts at all, or these recent posts? I can delete them all, or edit them, or do nothing. What'll it be? Neither one of them are swearing, and some of the things in their posts actually are informative. I see no reason to do anything about them. In the future, when I scroll back to this page, it'll be interesting to see just what will have happened here. If the personal attacks take a nasty tone or if the posts get so far off the subject of this particular board that something has to be done or we'll be in danger of losing members, then I might be moved to act. Pushing the envelope will probably be what's going to happen next since this will be perceived as a weak action, but I will hope that it doesn't go that route. I'm not much for censorship. I will do what I can to not edit anything of other people's posts.

A saying that seems appropriate.

It is better to remain silent and to be thought a fool...
...than to speak and remove all doubt.

1. augustus 2004, 14:39:52
redsales 
Onderwerp: let em talk
i have no idea what the real problem is between Dano and GI, but from what I gather, they have some history. Like Walter said, it can be entertaining at times. As an aside, I'm still interested in seeing Nellaf and GI play to settle top spot once and for all. Congratulations to ChessCarpenter for getting the first draw from GI on BK, btw.


Anyway, back on topic, my computer meets those minimum requirements. What days does it need operating?

1. augustus 2004, 14:41:27
ughaibu 
Onderwerp: Walter
How about offering a critique on the quality of the respective insults?

1. augustus 2004, 15:19:06
Caissus 
It is sadly that nobody has to say something relevant about the game itsself.I don`t want read unimportant things permanently.

1. augustus 2004, 15:41:18
danoschek 
Onderwerp: well for Uwe it's easy
Aangepast door danoschek (1. augustus 2004, 16:05:36)
he simply won't read as he prefered and suggested, especially after missing the
opened topic 'puter championship' that I refered to while putting my opinion about
(not so amused) unlike Uwe btw who did not say anything about the game while he indeed shows regular attempts of domineering a debate with his (my view) rather neglectable weighting of importance, i.e. what game should not be here, instead of simply leaving everybody his own choice as I would, no bending of my own preferences necessary, easy. ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 15:54:58
danoschek 
Onderwerp: I want stress two details yet
there's a pending question from 7/17 to GI about the game, he was not interested.
My short and harsh opinion about Intel/MS, two companies that I despice deeply
for usury and scamp may be elaborated further on the computer board, upon request. ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 16:25:43
ScarletRose 
Onderwerp: I agree with ya Walter..
by editing the post.. or removing them.. even discipling the ids that have some words of anger will only anger them more..

I see two men who enjoy chess so much they think they are at the top.. Kind of a Benny Rooster thing.. actually it is humorous as you say to see them bicker so.. they don't realize that they are both highly intelligent men who really lack in social skills.. It is too bad.. they could be really good friends.. learning from each other.. instead of sparring all the time as they do..

*covers head with arms and walks out of the room*

1. augustus 2004, 16:29:47
danoschek 
Onderwerp: you better
Aangepast door danoschek (1. augustus 2004, 16:38:05)
another neglectable and diffaming view especially about social skills, gothic !
you get minor meaning from desperate usage of 'really' btw ... I don't need any
lessons in sincere socialization, that's rather my profession must I say more ? ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 17:00:26
ScarletRose 
Onderwerp: OH???
I didn't realize you had studied psychology??

I do know Dano.. that when you don't like something or someone you are more than determined to co hearse everyone else into thinking as you do..

Of course you are a typical male when it comes to appologizing.. or trying to forgive, forget and move on..

I guess that is what really blew it for ya!!

1. augustus 2004, 17:04:05
danoschek 
Onderwerp: you guess
Aangepast door danoschek (1. augustus 2004, 17:05:18)
and the results therof have blown it for you on regular basis. this is the
gothic board, no cry-station for notorious ex-gurlfriends and their ludicrous
and not welcome backyards-psychology, barely on soap opera level period ... ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 17:06:48
danoschek 
Onderwerp: diffuse puberty rituals
Aangepast door danoschek (1. augustus 2004, 17:11:15)
of fixative proving whatever. grow up guys. and eddieboy - after once I took
your prizetourney-scams serious, you better should take a reality pill before you
try to start your blur again, you're looking funny chicken out, the weight I assume ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 17:10:46
Purple 
Onderwerp: Re: Vegas Odds
The Purple World Bookmaking Dept. will cover both sides of that action. LOL

1. augustus 2004, 17:11:49
Stevie 
we know what happened last time you were trying to do a bet, you wangled out of it ;o)

1. augustus 2004, 17:13:20
danoschek 
Onderwerp: yep too funny
I mean what keeps that cadaver alive that he still yanks
although he was busted for similar frauds webwide ... ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 17:13:36
Stevie 
the Bwildman gothic chess game/no posts bet

1. augustus 2004, 17:16:15
danoschek 
Onderwerp: How was his bet for taking over brainking and removing all competitors ?
well we see the result ...
and we actually could be happy that he lost, and brainking won. ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 17:18:34
Stevie 
If I was better player, I would to shut you up, but me not :o(

1. augustus 2004, 17:22:11
Walter Montego 
Onderwerp: Re: A bet
Now we're talking. I dislike using this service to play the games though. Since there's no stopping anyone from using a Chess playing, er Gothic Chess playing machine, the game should be played face to face as a regular Chess match would be held. To hold the match on this site would only prove who has the better machine or program or advisor.
Just how well spread is Gothic Chess? Have there ever been any tournaments held as like a regular Chess tournament? I can't say that I ever seen a Gothic Chess in a store, but then there's lots of games that aren't sold in stores. Chess is in every store, even stores that don't sell games.

1. augustus 2004, 17:24:06
danoschek 
Onderwerp: Cheaters look fuzzy - like liars too
Aangepast door danoschek (1. augustus 2004, 17:25:06)
"keeps claiming" let's spot - his lips are moving therefore he lies
(according to the common rule we discovered) maybe I should sulk now
until he nicely like a good puppy brought TWO (at least) claims of mine. LOL !! ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 17:29:15
danoschek 
Onderwerp: Simple and clear
Aangepast door danoschek (1. augustus 2004, 17:29:44)
I'm not interested in deputy wars, just because the swellhead who indeed is the only
one here permanetly claiming to be godfather of game tries to chicken out again ...
Mercenary fights neither - especially as we learned the payment is regulary volatile ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 17:29:44
ScarletRose 
Onderwerp: Okay both of you stop for one second...
Now.. if you both are going to behave like children we can treat you as such..

What do each of you want from the other to where this anger between you is settled?

1. augustus 2004, 17:30:50
Purple 
Onderwerp: Re:
It seems like going down Memory Lane to dredge up "bad guys" or paint yourself as a hero is a sign of weakness, not strength. I think it was a miscarriage that Ed lost his Moderator position because of a home invasion by Shorty/Creepo but that is just my opinion.

1. augustus 2004, 17:31:04
danoschek 
Onderwerp: and careful with downloads
especially from people who claim that they are taken over by hackers, periodicly ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 17:33:29
danoschek 
Onderwerp: oh
should not Liquid explain that or, Fencer, you poor innocent victim ?? ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 17:34:15
danoschek 
Onderwerp: Purple
Aangepast door danoschek (1. augustus 2004, 17:36:06)
what he says is he chickens out - as I explained in my own flowerful language before ~*~
PS: but glad to see the old gothicinventor-KM connection being revived ... LMAO ~*~

1. augustus 2004, 17:35:50
ScarletRose 
Onderwerp: Dano.. I ask you again.. since I have yet to see your reply
Okay both of you stop for one second... 1. August 2004, 09:29:44
Now.. if you both are going to behave like children we can treat you as such..

What do each of you want from the other to where this anger between you is settled?

1. augustus 2004, 17:37:41
redsales 
that paper looks great..i only glanced through the first 3 pages, but that's the kind of stuff that belongs here. I have no idea what you guys are talking about, but keep it up!

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