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Onderwerp: Re: Thanks to google ------there are dozens of recipes.
The Col: UUMMMMM if it is farmed, how can it be wild? Wild is W I L D....farmed is looked after and fed etc...Please explain as inquisitive people want to know???
Bernice: Thanks, but as I mentioned, I have no bbq ........I decided to vacu seal them until I get to a cottage with a bbq in July.I will try that yummy recipe then
Onderwerp: Thanks to google ------there are dozens of recipes.
Ingredients: Servings: 4Servings Size
Units: US | Metric 4 wild boar chops 3 meyer lemons, juiced 1 cup olive oil 2 tablespoons olive oil 1/4 cup fresh rosemary, chopped 1 tablespoon garlic, minced 1 teaspoon salt, kosher 1 teaspoon black pepper, fresh ground Directions: 1salt and pepper the chops.2place chops in roomy, non-metal container so each chop lays flat.3whisk all ingredients (sans chops) for marinade.4pour marinade over chops.5cover and refrigerate at least (4) hours, turning every hour or so.6prepare grill/fire for direct heat on hi.7sear chops on both side for 2 minutes.8turn heat down or place chops on cooler part of grill for remaining cooking.9Close lid and cook about (5) mins on each side for medium rare.
I decided to live on the edge a lil and picked up a couple of thick wild boar chops at the butcher shop yesterday.Living in a condo without a bbq I am limited in my options as far as cooking them is concerned.Any tips would be much appreciated
I already suggested you the one (remember : 9,49 $) but, for me, it's very very sweet. But it you think that the Gewurztraminer isn't enough sweet, I think you will appreciate the Monbazillac.
I didn't speak about the Sauternes because it's a wine of my region, and here, it's less expensive. On this site, I think that the price is very expensive. I suggest it now, because we spoke about this in my family and an half thinks that the Monbazillac is more sweet, and the other half thinks that it's the Sauternes which is more sweet !
If you choose to buy the Sauternes, just know that more " dark " it is, more sweet it is and older it is, more sweet it is. In my example, the wine to 47,60 $ will be more sweet. Me, for the same price, I prefer to drink Champagne.
Mélusine: Well I have just arrived home and of course the first thing I did was to unscrew the bottle HAHAHAHAHA.....I had a taste...I will admit it is very nice but I do like them a bit sweeter.....BUT...I will drink it and really enjoy it :)
thank you so much and because I also bought 6 other bottles I got it $1.20 cheaper :)
as we say in Australia....."Cheers" as we click glasses :)
Bernice: Oh great ! I think you won't be disappointed. My mother likes red and rosé wines and doesn't drink white wine, except this one she likes. My companion never drinks white wine, except wines from Alsace and he likes this one, and it's the same for me, so... And now, I feel like buying some....
Bernice: No, you can drink french wines with a correct price. You know, me, in France, I don't drink too much expensive wines and they are very good.
I promised you to give you my selection. That's done. I've looked at all the french wines and I've choosen good wines with correct prices (the prices I ususally pay), so I've eliminated the prices over 100 $. Anyway, when you pay these prices, you always drink a good wine !
RED : 6,65 $ http://danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_916014/paul-mas-cabernet-sauvignon Wine from the South West of France, not very well known, because it's not an AOC but I've already drunk it and it's good. You can be sure about the origin France because the area of the production is mentioned, see on the label : it's written : " indication géographique protégée " " pays d'oc " (it's the old french name). The taste : aroma with soft fruits (strawberry, cherry), rather sweet (like the wines from the South of France). Very good quality with regard to the price.
WHITE : 16,95 $ http://danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_901745/dopff-au-moulin-gewurztraminer Wine from Alsace, in the North East of France. It's an AOC. Wine very very sweet (because the grape harvest is very late, so the fruit gets more sugar) and mellow. You drink it very easily (too easily ! ) and it's very alcoholic, so ..... pay attention ! --> The taste : the rose, the litchi. I'm not fond of white wines but I must admit that this one is absolutely delicious. It's my favourite.
WHITE : 28,50 $ http://danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_917007/ch-teau-bastor-lamontagne-sauternes-2005 Wine from the South West of France. It's an AOC, it's written on the label : " appellation sauternes controlée ". This wine is sweet but more dry than the 2 previous ones. The taste : boxwood, blackcurrant, citrus fruits. You'll drink a Gewurztraminer with a dessert but this one with a starter.
CHAMPAGNE : 36,90 $ http://danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_383979/champagne-duperrey-brut-ros This Champagne is rather sweet but too expensive for me, if we look at the quality. It's a " brut " which means " dry ". I think that the price is high because it's a rosé. French people don't drink many rosés (they prefer white Champagne) so it's more expensive.
About the ROSES : On the shop, there are good ones, but they aren't sweet, and you said that you prefer sweet, so I chose none in my selection. This shop is interesting, I think that there's a large variety. Only one bad thing : they sell Champagne on only 1 category : " brut " (dry) ; we don't find medium dry and soft ones. What a pity.
I hope that you'll drink one of these wines. Tell me if you do and give me your advice.
Bwild: I think it could be something that we rarely eat, as wild boar or pheasant. Many owners of wine castles, in my region, do hunting and they show their products during these days when they go hunting (hunting some wild boar essentially).
Bernice: I've looked at it. There's a large choice of wines, but the prices are ..... (too much high for me !). Example with the bottle that Bwild suggested : Château Cheval Blanc Saint-Émilion 1985 Here's your price : 349,99 $ see and here's the price in France : about 105 Euros (= 136 $) see and it's on the net (less expensive in a wine cellar). I look at them more and I give you my selection. Here, I drink fine wines but I go to buy it in little castles and there are very good wines, less known, so the prices are lower.
Onderwerp: Re: Just curious..red with beef ..white with chicken ?
Bernice: Oh, I didn't think that foreign people would be interested in drinking french wine ! Well, I hadn't thought to the taxs. I've looked at the conditions : it seems that if I give a invoice justifying that I've paid the TVA (a french tax that we have in our country), the addressee pays nothing else, but it's different depending on the country, and in some countries, it's forbidden to send wine. The problem is that, since a long time, I've very old and very good bottles in my cellar and I've no more bills for them. Anyway, if I buy wine here, the price will always cheaper than if you buy the same in your country. In the next days, I'm going to get more information at the post office. It's difficult to give you names of wine : l'INAO (Institut National des Appellations d'Origine - is the French organization charged with regulating French agricultural products with Protected Designations of Origin, controlled by the Ministry of Agriculture) lists 3420 different wines in France. Tell me before what kind of wine you like to drink : white, rosé, red ? and : do you like it : wooded, fruity, dry, strong ? Or else, do you want a list about the well knowned french wines ?
Onderwerp: Re: Just curious..red with beef ..white with chicken ?
Bwild: and Melusine: me too....would love to pay postage and get the real stuff LOL...Give me names of Vino so I can check I can't buy it here and if I have to pay excise duty>
Bernice: that sounds good. I cheat...try using bread and butter pickle brine mix. I use that when canning hot hungarian wax peppers. stuffing sterilized pint jars 4/5 full with peppers cut to 3/4 inch chunks..then pouring boiling hot brine to the top. top quickly with cap and ring,then flip them upsidedown on a clean towel for 30 minutes. then flip back over, and as they cool,you'll hear the caps pop as they seal. refrigerate before eating ...crisp...sweet...then hot. killer. lol
Try this....I have never done them but it is out of a very old recipe book...
Sweet-Pickled Green Beans 1 1/2 pounds fresh green beans 1 medium onion, chopped 1 medium red bell (sweet) pepper, seeded and chopped 3 teaspoons pickling spice 3 teaspoons black peppercorns 1 bay leaf 1 garlic clove, crushed 4 cups white wine vinegar 6 tablespoons granulated sugar 4 sprigs of dill Wash and cut green beans to 3-inch lengths. Place green beans in a steamer over boiling water, cover, and cook until crisp-tender, about 2 minutes. Remove from heat and immediately plunge beans into a large bowl or pan of ice water. Drain well. Create a bouquet garni* with the pickling spice, peppercorns, sugar, bay leaf and garlic. Place in a large saucepan along with the vinegar and sugar. Bring mixture to a boil over high heat, reduce to low heat and simmer for 10 minutes. Remove from heat and allow seasoned vinegar to cool to room temperature. Remove bouquet garni. Pack the beans upright into four hot, sterilized pint jars. Combine the chopped onion and bell pepper together and spoon atop the green beans. Add 2 sprigs of dill to each jar, and pour over the seasoned vinegar mixture over the vegetables to cover. Seal jars with sterilized lids and rings and store in a cool dark place for at least 2 weeks, to allow flavors to develop. Makes 4 pints.
Onderwerp: Re: It not just about Champagne, there are lots of other protected goods
puupia: Yes, you're totally right. I spoke about Champagne because it was in the text UE had posted. But, in my post, I also spoke about " AOC " which is the term (in France) for the protected goods and my map shows all the names of wines from France with AOC : you speak about " Cognac " and you will see that this brandy is on the map, on the South West, in color green " Eaux de vie " (brandy). In France, there are many protected goods, specially for food : cheese, meat, chicken, beef, culinary specialities, drinks, cakes, ham, etc.... I had already heard that Kobe beef was a very protected label. I've read this interesting text.
Onderwerp: Re: Just curious..red with beef ..white with chicken ?
Bwild: For me, with chicken, we rather drink a rosé : my favorite is " Côtes de Provence " (in the South East - see on the map : http://www.mywineandcellar.com/Carte_vins_France.html) but a wine from Anjou (in the middle West) is the best choice. With chicken, we drink a rosé or else a very light red wine. This is a classic answer.
But, in reality, it's not so easy to choose a wine. You have, first, to consider what different wines will be drunk during the meal and you have to respect a logical order : the light wines first ; more you go forward in the meal, more the wines will be strong. It's inconceivable, for example, to drink 1st a thick red wine and 2nd a light rosé !! (we do like that in France but perhaps it's different in other countries ; I only speak about MY experience). Then, I would allude to what Bernice said " it doesn't really matter what color wine...it is the taste that compliments the meal " . I mean that in a meal, there's not only one element - the wine - but it's a whole. We have to consider what we will eat. I give you an example with only one meat : chicken. If you eat some chicken grilled, it's obvious that a red wine is better. But if you cook your chicken with crawfishes and lemon, inevitably, you'll drink a bottle of white wine (white wine with fishes and shellfishs). Last, as it is a question of taste, you'll choose (of course) a wine that you like. For example, me, I rarely drink white wines because they aren't my favourite and I prefer wines more dried, less sweet. In the same way of doing, someone who lives in a region with wines, as me, will often choose a wine from this region if he eats a culinary speciality from this region : example : in the South West of France, we eat a speciality : " poulet basquaise " (chicken with tomatoes, sweet peppers, oil of olive, ....) , so we naturally drink with a wine from the region South West as a " Bergerac " rosé, or a " Côte de Duras " red.
To finish : ..... it doesn't matter at all !!!! specially for a wine lover as me !!!
ps : if you're ready to pay the postage and the packaging, I offer you and send you a bottle of french wine (white or rosé or red or Champagne). (and because you are a friend).
Onderwerp: Re: so California has no real champagne ?
Mélusine: It not just about Champagne, there are lots of other protected goods like Cognac, Kalamata olives or Gorgonzola cheese to name a few. European Union does a pretty good job on protecting the rights of these labels. But i would guess that in the US very small percentage of "Parmegiano" sold is actually real Parmegiano cheese.
According to that article it is not even possible to import Kobe beef to US legally. And still restaurants all around US have Kobe on their menus. I say its outragous!
Onderwerp: Re: so California has no real champagne ?
Mélusine: I'm not a big champagne (as its marketed in the USA) drinker. I'm more of a California Merlot drinker,though I am always on the lookout for a French bottle from near you,to try!
Just curious..red with beef ..white with chicken? or (like me) it doesnt matter?
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