nightmagic: but the point i was making it dosnt
matter what Fencer does to the site because he never be able to please 100% of ppl there always be someone who dosnt like
this or dosnt like that i personally hate having the ads on its distracts me from what im here for to play games

i need a drink now, lol, i spoke my mind and it hasn't seen life in 3 years,lol

imsoaddicted: ad's take time to load.... which hinders the other party, in more ways than 1 . and u if on dial up. now please make it clear... dail up, comcast, telphone , is not my concern as to how long it takes one to turn, but ad's as u pay does and should make a difference, nomather how much. i am hearing \ that they are being hindered by this and as if they are on foxfire or ie it's in there personal preferences that this site should not be messing with, it's each there settings to get and or recieve these nonsence things called ad's. it messes people up with their computer, as there personal settings with their computer and they have to reset them in order to get these points. that also alow them prey.....

Somelaughs2: but correct me if im wrong at IYT you didnt get ads or pop ups if you were a paying member to
as ive got a pop up blocker on i cant go back there to find out

some just can't get there, some don't want ad's, some can't stop the ad's.... ME I liked it as is was but they life tells me it doesn't stay the saME. CHANGE..... oh mywhat have they done now?

All I hear from alot is paying member shouldn't be having to do this with ad's...

nightmagic: if your playing someone using the ads you cant see the ads just them

ad's, members pay not to have ad's.if points are based on ad's, alot of members dont like ad's. paying members i thought kept ad's from them. to play games with members using ad's can cause losing members.

Uninvited: I'm having rum & coke diet,lol. enjoy. the more i read all everywhere most don't like the ad's/ take ad's away and see where it goes.

rainbow days has done nothing wrong she just worked out how to get the secret points more than others and i suggest to anyone griping about action points this month would be to turn theres of and wait until everything has been tested
Keep up the good work Fencer its a great site

Baked Alaskan:nothing in life is fair, my mom told me this everyday of my life as i grew up with others in family BUT yes i agree, i 2 paid to not have ad's, and to enjoy my game time away from home work, it was my time here. What ever is planned on this site i hope owner does not lose site of why me and others are here verses IYT, gt and many others alto many are at all sites to. I like being here verses others i've been at and stopped playing at. Change? can be good and can be harmfull to those that pay to be here to not recieve what is at otheres. I've always said if it's not broke don't fix it! :)

Two things:

1) I dont use anything but Firefox so I cant get the secret stuff...
2) I dont want to see adds, Its why I paid for a membership.

Why must I change my browsing habits to get in on some action points?

Somelaughs2: I'm with you all the way.
I'm gonna shut off my points right now and go to the Friendly Lounge and have a couple of cold beers. The points are just not worth it.

Rainbow Days: Sure I wanted to know where to get Secret points. This contest was suppose to be based on moves .... Not Secret Points.
As far sour grapes go, I have said my piece, & I stick by what I have said.
You will see more people speaking out over the next few days.

Somelaughs2: The only fair way to do it now would be to set the cap for THIS MONTH at what ever the most secret points one person has.Then that person would not be able to get any more this month.
Then every one who finds the secret points can catch up.
After this month i would hope the secret points could only be foud once a month by any player.
And it could be worth greater points.

Rainbow Days: I have nothing against you.
I did what you asked .... I went thru the leader
board Looking for Secret Points players. You are the only one 18,ooo Secret points, Only one other person has 3000 secret points , everyone else has 2000 or less points. Tell me 18,000 un-earned points is fair. You went from 11 place to first in one day & made less than 500 moves.
Fencer has an equal share of the problem here.
He could have stopped this days ago ... & he didn't. There are alot of unhappy people here.

Somelaughs2: dont let it bother you too much, just enjoy for the games and wait until the rules fair up for you maybe next month. Certainly nothing to worry about.

Dolittle: no problem, glad I could help (or try to at least :))

Secret Points is not set up fair.
Rainbow days has earned over 17,000 in 3 days.
I was told yesterday that a cap was in place.
I was told that the cap was no more than 1500 points in a day, well the day just started & Rainbow already has 2000 Secret points.
I wont even bother to try again, until they get rid of these Secret Points.
At the moment this is an Unfair contest, Rainbow has found a way to tap into the system & Fencer will not adjust his points .....
I have made my decision, Now Its your turn to speak out & let Fencer know how you feel.
John

SafariGal: thanks..I got it now!

Dolittle: settings page I think?

furbster: How do you deactivate them?

How Free Game Bonus for this month action works? Can I select a game form the list myself or will I get one of the games randomly?

I've just deactivated mine, it makes my pages load so much slower.

I dont see the adds thank gawd... they just annoying. And wont activate them just for points LOL

CRY ME A RIVER: Thanks.

Hrqls:

Fencer:Keep it going Fencer you are doing a GREAT JOB!!!!!

Hrqls: I know, i see, i understand it is implemented to show us how BK can be improved thats why i am smiling... : )

Chaosu: the idea of the secret action is to let the users explore the site more thouroughly and to test new features. by keeping the action secret it will force users to explore for real

the fact that the secret points wont work under firefox is a bit weird though, i admit, but its still part of it .. there is a link under the left menu (in my settings) that tells you to download firefox, maybe thats a hint :)

btw i havent collected any secret action points either .. i have tried a lot .. both in firefox (at home) as in ie (at work), but so far i havent found it :)

(but hey! i am blond ;))

Fencer: Thats right, however You would probably easily see who is wrong and who is not. If You will start playing gomoku in some time You will see that starting player have advantages. Decide, play it anyway (not counting situations when You want learn it perfect, then it's understandable) even You feel it is unfair (if You want equal challenge for both players to see who is better in thinking) or switch to other game wich give (more) equal chances to both players (not counting experience this time). Of course this example do not fits here very good but You should understand what I really meant.

Fencer:Oui!

Chaosu: If I create any rules, no matter what kind of rules, there will be always someone who would claim "this is not fair to everyone" :-) C'est la vie.

Fencer: Maybe it will be <cough>good</cough> contest in next month then : )

Chaosu: The meaning of Secret Points is that the rules are NOT clear. Otherwise there would be nothing secret. Anyway, the system is continuously being improved and finetuned and I am sure the next month action would be suitable for everyone.

Jason: I sort of get that bit Jason, but my points do not seemed to have changed the last 2 days at least LOL

MadMonkey: you will get action points using firefox just not the secret action (500) point one .

If I wouldn't look up here I would be like blind. No advertise that secret points can be earned only by IE (more secret then?). Those who earn many of these points probably aslo laugh at me! But whats the problem, good contest is when rules are clear and everyone can join.

Fencer: Being a bit new to this, well Action points, not BK LOL.
So if i use Firefox i get no points at all, but if i use IE i do. Is that right ?
I seem to have got some from somewhere over the last few days, but having tried both browsers todays nothing seems to happen on either.

A cap has been added. 3 times a day is enough.
Until I create a new improvement.

*BOB*on*Bush*: I guess Google wouldn't allow any advertiser to post a banner which would access your brokerage account. This system is safe.

torpedo man: last month a person got more points by 'reading' the boards... when that was 'tweaked' simple games like ludo were the key 'move' games... i just kept playing backgammon...
this month more points can be earned by 'reading' ads... ludo probably still rules... i just keep playing backgammon...and chatting...that's why i'm here;]
last year while playing utopia on swirve, one of their 'innocuous ads' tried to access my brokerage account! i'll just keep active x and pop-ups blocked, and play as long as i can...

jurek: Check your Settings page.

BIG BAD WOLF: Good idea with the cap.

gambler104: I too have basicaly given up on this contest, as of now I'm 7 th possition but see this amount of secret points given in a day w/out haveing to play very many game moves very dissapointing. I realy feel sad for the top two players as they will be soon passed up.

BIG BAD WOLF: Well I have basically given up on the competition this month. I worked hard at times today to build a 500 point or so lead in 10th place. Then I get passed in about five minutes by some guy who got about 6500 points from the secret points. It's kind of demoralizing really. I definitely think there should be some cap on the points, but those who found it would disagree.

rod03801: I would also agree on some cap on it - I figured out how to get it multipe times, but I've limited myself to one or twice only since it is one of those things that can quickly ruin the fun for everyone else in my opinion.

im seeing loads of ads

I'm not seeing many ads anymore either. (Ever since Aug. 1 it seems..)

Shouldn't there be SOME limit on the secret points? 15,000 or so in 2 days seems a bit much! lol..

Not that I had a chance of getting even in the top 500 action points, but if I did, it seems to take all the fun out of it if it simply becomes a contest between the few who found the secret, who just keep claiming the points over and over and over again..

Just seems like there should be SOME sort of cap on it.. but I'm sure those getting the points would disagree.. :-)