You have completely misunderstood me & the point I have tried to make about the rating system. You are now going off down other avenues that are not related to the rating system query. So lets leave it there. End of discussion about it.

Lets talk instead about making friends playing games & having fun!?

alanback:

I had nothing to 'go over' so therefore, there is nothing to 'get over'. I just stated a point that has led to a discussion thats all and you do agree with my initial statement by saying 'If the system had been correct from the beginning...'

Also 2-3 years to let the system run the way it has is hardly a 'begining' either. I'd say its been a waste of time, but on the bright side there was absolutely nothing to 'go over'! ;)

Ok Pedro I understand :)

But I kind of disagree with this one statement of yours on a personal note. You said 'All you had to do was play opponents within 400 BKR points and you always gained 8 points if you won'

Take a good look at my Spiderline4 game playing history over the past 3 years. The vast majority of my games were against the very best players, ie: Badman, PJA & Slayer just to name a few. These were NO easy gained 8 points! I earnt a 200-300 point gap from these players, now Im less than a 100 points ahead of lesser players. Again Im not being disrespectful to these players. Its just that you would all agree with me that if you played say 20 games of chess, line4 or spiderline4 etc against a player that is 300 - 400 points, nevermind 500 -600 points, below you then you would expect to win 18 to 20 out of 20 at least? Surely this is no fun as it is no challenge?

Therefore, only 100 points ahead is NOT a true reflection of the BKR, this is all Im trying to point out :)

Yes I understand that EVERYONE has dropped in ratings...I never suggested that this is a personal matter. I am merely suggesting that this site confuses me!

Mirjam: you say this 'The object of ratings: to show who's stronger and how much.'

Listen, I agree with you 100%. I was say for example over 200 points ahead of my nearest rival and about 500+ points ahead of the next four players below second place.....how did I get so far ahead then? miscalculation? I dont think so!

I got so far ahead of my rivals by BEATING my rivals fair & square over 3 years of game play. I am sure many other players on BK in other games have been penalised the same thing.


Now Im only 100 points ahead of my top 5 or so players. Therefore, this is NOT a true reflection of the ratings is it?.

Yes I can build my rating back up, which would take many years, but Im afraid this is not a challenge for me anymore as the nearest competitors, bar 1 or 2 players, just do not give me a match. This is not being disrespectful....its just a 400-600 point difference FACT of my nearest rivals.

Its a dam shame that just about ALL the top 'old school' Spiderline 4 players (dating back since 1998 on IYT) have now left this site BUT most of them STILL continue to play at IYT. Why is this? I know why!

Well Im affraid EVERY time I got a point was the correct score AT THE TIME of winnning it. But now the 'goal posts'' move!?

Listen I aint gonna cry & sulk about my rating dropping over 400 points over night..its just that EVERY point was earnt against the best players on the net...then they get taken away! Winning and drawing matches for points was not playing under 'false pretences' then, so why now?Im sorry but it does not make sense to me.

I have heard that the ratings have been 'modified' because of calcultion error? is this correct? If so, then how can me losing over 400 points be a miscalculation when I earnt every single point by winning some extremely tough games over the past 2 - 3 years. All that effort which was not always enjoyable!! Had a sore brain at times! lol!

Anyway, I never complain or slag anything off but I feel that this site (at times) is a complete waste of time....there just does not seem to be any consistency or continuity whatsoever. And people wonder why members do not rejoin then gradually leave. Im afraid I may now become one of them. I just cant be bothered with way it is run.

Yeah I know its the maximum, just wondered why its 2700, is there a reason behind that figure. I want to carry on up to 3000! :-(

Why do the ratings points stop once 2700 is reached? does anyone know?

Yep I deleted my cookies and now I can log out no problem...thanks for your help :)

I cant log out! Ive tried lots of times this past few weeks but somehow it doesnt work. :( has anyone else got this problem & does anyone know how to solve it?

Thanks :)

We support you all the way Fencer, keep up the great work :)

Ok, thanks for your help Fencer :-D

Is there a maximum rating here at BK? If so what is it? Also what happens when you reach it?

Hope someone can help,

Cheers,

M4tt :)

HURRY!!!! Have FUN in the SPIDERS WEB TOURNY!!! Starts Tues 12th August..all welcome!! :)

Dmitri

As I said earlier..the matter is over, finished, old news! Kitti & I have appologised to eachother for the misunderstanding ok...Obviously you dont understand, so me explaining to you AGAIN is pointless...if you want your question answering then READ my earlier post to you AGAIN...its self-explanatory....Oh & read the other posts supporting me too...How much more information do you need?

If this isnt the place, then why dont you send me a personal message instead, like I was going to do to you, instead of saying it here...but you talk here, so I talk back...its no problem to me whatsoever! and NO, there were still points to be made here, as I was slandered here by a factless person....you'll see where Im coming from if it ever happened to you...But as far as Im concerned, the matter on here is closed.

harley

This was ORIGINALLY discussed in private between me & the person concerned..but to my disgust, I saw it spread openly on here...So I have a right to stick up for myself & the dignified spiderline4 players who cant get games...My fellow players, Badman & pja, back my statement, to which Im very grateful for..BUT I now dont need to come here & find some guy disrespecting me in OPEN..Im a very respectful person & will go out of my way to make people feel happy around me, BUT I will not tollerate public slander against me as a person, or the against the dignified name of spiderline4

Besides, Kitti & I have appologised to eachother for the misunderstanding, she's a nice person..so theres no need to 'stir' anything up Dim

Dmitri

Its nice to get your facts sorted out in order BEFORE you have a go at somebody you dont even know!

I offered a single game because some people dont want to play two games for some reason or another, which I have come across before. I OFFERED a 2 game MATCH also with the OFFER to delete the single game...How nice can I be actually be to someone?

I refused to play her on black as a SINGLE game due to the fact I can play black in a match! As pja and Badman said, I have lots to lose on a black game even if we draw the match I OFFERED INSTEAD! she would lose nothing! SO what do I do eh?? you tell me?? do I play her on a single black to which I have nothing to prove as Ive beaten many -2000 with my black, BUT RISK losing a lot of points in which Ive fought so HARD for in numerous awesome matches against the best players ever to play this game, such as Badman, PJA, and Slayer??

Or do I not invite anyone at all because of me FEARING slander of 'grabbing'...I will tell you something mate...If it wasnt for payers like Badman, Slayer, PJA & a few others, then I would have NEVER joined this site, which means you moaning lot would have SLOWER games due to lack of funding through less memberships!

And BELIEVE me..Spiderline4 is huge on IYT, with many awesome players & competions...more & more are slowly coming here, which is great...But if us top 5 players cannot get a game apart from eachother, then what do we do???

Oh by the way Dmitri...wouldnt a simple DECLINE button have solved something that would have never evolved..its that simple..play or dont play...I'll still enjoy my life the same with BK or no BK :)

About ratings etc...I'd like to put forward a sensible point across.

I find it very hard on this site to play a good competitive spiderline 4 game as the strength & depth isnt as good as IYT, but I realise this site is relatively new but its progressing well with some good IYT players coming here..this is great news for the site as a whole!

Because I like to play spiderline4, & take a look at my profile as I aint got many games going, I only really like playing over 2000 ranked players in a 2 game MATCH & there arnt many on here...this makes sense for BOTH parties involved...but when I invite a 2000+ player to a game, WITH the opportunity to cancel it & start a 'fairer' match up instead, I dont expect to get a message back from this 'particular' person saying that Im an 'easy point grabber' & Im 'protecting' my ratings! lmao!!

I would like this person to take a good look at my spiederline4 games & see that the majority of my matches are against the VERY best players on here...If I was 'easy point grabbing' or 'protecting' my rankings, then SURELY I would AVOID these top players! BUT NO IM NOT AVOIDING them coz they are the kind of good competitve matches that keep me playing this excellent stratergy game on THIS site!

I think people should just chill out more & stop getting paranoid by thinking there being persecuted...If they want to play then fine, if they dont want to play, the fine again! Its only a game & theres alot more serious things in life than this.


Oh I havnt metioned who his person is, but I srongly agree with them that there should be different ranking points for black games, as its harder to win on black.

Take care readers, & have fun'

Matt :)