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28. mars 2004, 23:46:43
bwildman 
what will you change the name of this tournament to,LongJohn?

28. mars 2004, 23:33:16
LongJohn GZ 
Emne: SUPPORT FENCER AND CLEAN UP BK
Join my new tournament
SUPPORT FENCER AND CLEAN UP BK
It's always good to have choices in this world.

28. mars 2004, 18:37:17
Backoff 
This whole thing has turned into a big joke.

I have added a counter to BRING BACK STEVE AND MAD MONEKY. I set it to start on the current number of names I have, 93!!!! Keep up the good work all. With enough support, hopefully we can get them back quick!

28. mars 2004, 17:10:33
bwildman 
you know....thats a good question.seems "cleaning up the site" under the circumstances,means leaving our rights as paid members violated.

28. mars 2004, 16:52:38
coan.net 
What to do. I support Fencer & I want to show my support for Fencer and all the hard work he is doing to try and make this a great place to play..... but I also think MM & Steve should be allowed to come back.

Is the "Show support for Fencer" tournament actually a "keep Steve & MM banned" tournament? If so, I want to make sure not to sign up for that one.

28. mars 2004, 16:40:38
Czuch 
Emne: Re:
I detect sarcasm in your tone Bwild.... Soon enough there will be a comittee to detect sarcasm, and the like, and it will be a banable offense...
Watch out!

28. mars 2004, 16:35:40
bwildman 
you'd have to ask his secratary,Chuck.Fencer is too busy playing games to bother with petty things like violating our memberships! or the support of the membership.

28. mars 2004, 16:31:58
Czuch 
Emne: Support Fencer tourney....
Whats up with that one? Didn't over 100 people recently support Fencer with an extra $5 donation??? That sounds like plenty of support to me.

If it is simply a statement against the save MM and Steve tourney... most of us can not sign up for either because we are already in the first one.

If Fencer has any interest in where people stand on this issue, maybe he could do as he did with the fund raiser tournament, and wave the limit on how many tournaments of one game type that we are allowed?????

28. mars 2004, 16:29:18
bwildman 
Emne: Re: What is going on?
general chat discussion board should enlighten you,Walter.

28. mars 2004, 13:49:18
Walter Montego 
Emne: What is going on?
This page isn't making much sense. I can only conclude that it's being edited. Would any of you send me a message and let me know what the deal is.
Who are Steve and Mad Monkey? Why should I join the tournament to support them? Or the other tournament to support Fencer? Were they kicked of the site? Why?
I went to both sign lists for the tournaments. It's pretty one sided as to how the sentiment is running, but I still don't know what all the hubbub is about. Obviously the powers that be aren't pleased and us riff raff are growing restless. Deleting posts arbitrarily only makes things worse.
Will I jeopardize my membership by joining one tournament, but not the other? Perhaps I made a mistake in rejoining after all. Is there a page on this site that has news of the events that lead up to all this? I know ol' "bumble" gets upset if tournaments aren't the main topic of discussion in the posts to this area. I've only been following this particular page as I have an interest in the two tournaments that I've created, but I can certainly go to other posting boards to get the information if someone will point me in the right direction.

Thank you,
Walter Montego

28. mars 2004, 10:21:54
VikingX 
Emne: So far...
...2 people seem to support the current bulls**t -policy and 33 are against it. ("SUPPORT FENCER AND CLEAN UP BK" -tourny vs. "Bing back steve and MM" -tourny).
Quite as I expected.

28. mars 2004, 10:08:29
Backoff 
ha, you should see my in box lol. up to almost 50 now in just a few hours!!!! Fencer when you read this, please take note that alot of your members (most of them paying) want these 2 guys back.

28. mars 2004, 09:39:46
Bernice 
Emne: Support STeve and MadMOnkey
WOW....in just a couple hours...at this moment 32 signed...does that say something?

28. mars 2004, 09:36:46
Bernice 
Emne: OOPS
this wont stay LOLOL...i have odd for you of 10 to 1...already messages are being wiped LOL

*****MODERATOR'S ADDED NOTE******

I'll take you up on that Bernice, 1000 Euros says that this post stays.

(Fencer - don't you dare!)

28. mars 2004, 09:35:58
Bernice 
hahaha look at the tournaments...our Friend is now running a "CLEAN UP BK" tourney..my god what next...it should have been done months ago..but not for STeve and MM...how hypocritical can some be :(

28. mars 2004, 09:29:30
LongJohn GZ 
Emne: SUPPORT FENCER AND CLEAN UP BK
Join this tournament
SUPPORT FENCER AND CLEAN UP BK
Support Fencer and his cause. Have your say and lend your support and show him that some of us agree with what he is doing with HIS site

28. mars 2004, 08:25:42
Backoff 

28. mars 2004, 07:07:45
Lythande 
Too many /games. ;)

28. mars 2004, 07:00:54
rod03801 
that one doesnt work backoff

28. mars 2004, 06:57:25
Backoff 

28. mars 2004, 06:35:10
Lythande 
Wasn't there just a link here for the Bring 'em Back tournament? Where'd it go alla sudden?

28. mars 2004, 05:02:42
Backoff 
Ok I have set up a simple page for everyone who wants to keep Steve and Mad Monkey here at brainking. Click here to give them your support

27. mars 2004, 21:25:53
Linda J 
Emne: Just a reminder
Tomorrow March 28th is the last day for signups for the BK Fund Raiser Prize Tournament You can enter this tournament HERE
March 29th is the start date. Lots "O" Luck everyone. Wear your backgammon shoes. ;•)

27. mars 2004, 16:49:40
Linda J 
LOL that's ok BBw you're worth the wait your help is always good.

27. mars 2004, 16:46:12
coan.net 
Linda - Took me an extra minute to find out what kind of tournament he had. :-)

27. mars 2004, 16:45:24
coan.net 
Dragon - In a Fellowship tournament, it is a little more tricky

1) Go to the tournament you set up.
2) Click on the link that says "Back to the list of game types"
3) There you will see the "Close" button
4) Then you will see the "start" button

Let me know if you have any other questions.

27. mars 2004, 16:44:37
Linda J 
Oh tournament guy this ones for you BBW

27. mars 2004, 16:41:35
Dragon 
Emne: I cant start my own tournament - help needed
Why cant I see the message to start the tournament? The date has passed, etc.

27. mars 2004, 07:33:35
Walter Montego 
Emne: Re: You being wrong
:) OK, I'll tell you. You're wrong! :)

What is it that you're wrong about?
I didn't find any posts by you on the front page here. Is it in someone else's post where they refer to you? Perhaps you've inadvertantly posted your query here when you meant to post it to another discussion board?

Just over a day left to enter one of the tournaments that are waiting. Dark Chess or Extinction Chess.

25. mars 2004, 09:22:37
Lythande 
Actually I think tournaments are an excellent place to 'learn' games. My first game of both Maharaja and Janus chess was played (or is being played) in a tournament. ;)

25. mars 2004, 09:19:51
Walter Montego 
Emne: May I suggest Dark Chess for your tournament, chattytea? Or perhaps a game with some element of chance in it.
The better player usually wins, unlike regular Chess where the better player almost always wins.
It has luck. Even the lowest rated player can win against the top player.
It has bluff. Nothing like throwing a Rook out there when the other player can attack it with his Queen, but doesn't know if its guarded or not.
Since the boards are dark, the players can't analyze their opponent's position for days on end, or get a computer to help, or have kibitzers and friends help them any more than they can help themselves.
If you haven't played the game, it's kind of like Stratego and Battleship combined, with the movement of Chess.

I hadn't even heard of Dark Chess until a couple of years ago. I'd sure like a home version. It'd take two screens and a game console or computer to run it. I imagine such a set up could be used for other games too. Even more screens hooked up for other games. Just use two for Dark Chess. Does anyone know if such a machine is made or can be configured with current store bought stuff?

Does adding a prize help one's tournament have more people in it? The Dark Chess tournament that I'm going to start this weekend doesn't have a prize except for bragging rights. You guys have me wondering if it matters about the prizes or not. I like to play the games, prizes or no prizes. I suppose it wouldn't be too much of an expense to add money to my tournament, but I'm reluctant to do it for some reason. Perhaps I'll do it in the second tournament, if I run a second tournament that is.

As general statement about offering prizes I will say that I think on a game site like this one that games with some chance in them will probably cut down on the players that will use computers to help them play their games. Choosing a game that's not as well known, or hasn't been analyzed a lot is probably a better choice. I would avoid games like regular chess, five in line, Pente, checkers, and games simular to them that have perfect information in the play of them. Even my old Chess Master 5500 could play in a tournament given a few days for each move and hold its own against some of the best players in the world while on this old 486 66 MHz machine I use here. If you're going to choose those kind of games, I wouldn't offer a prize.

24. mars 2004, 17:25:47
Czuch 
Emne: Re:
I agree, if it is going to be bracketed, the game doesnt have to be one of luck...
Although you run into the occasional problem of someone like Arnie addick in reversi, who is a top player, but who recently had some problems and was ranked at about 1000 or so. Plus there is always the unranked player who is very good also, so you would have to watch for that also :)

24. mars 2004, 17:22:31
sandra... 
Now that is a brilliant idea too rogue :)

24. mars 2004, 17:21:03
Rogue Lion 
you could also make it between highly ranked members only in a game of skill with the prize going to the pawn of their choice. (may be not greedy enough)

24. mars 2004, 17:17:33
sandra... 
Looking at what you have all ben inputting.. I reckon a game of chance will be best :)
I want to make it fair to all...
Also as steve says, a lot of us rooks would probably give the prize to a pawn anyway..

I want to make it as fair as possible, Also your idea IMupChucKing is good too... I could run 2.. one for the higher ranked.. one for the lower...

I was going to do a years membership.. but I could split it into 2 six months..

anymore suggestions/help appreciated

24. mars 2004, 16:56:03
Czuch 
I can only speak for myself Steve, But I think you play a tournament to win. If you want to play a game for fun, or to get experience, tournaments are not the place. Tournaments are for winning.

Thats why I suggested flights.... all players between 1700 to 2000 for example.... I know people make mistakes etc, but no one ranked at 2600 is going to lose to someone ranked 1500.
BUt there are also games with more luck involved ie battleboats, and backgammon, where most people feel like they at least have a chance to win.

24. mars 2004, 16:33:04
Stevie 
A tourny thing isnt a chance thing, its a competition for god sake LOL
I think its stupid when players leave a tourny or wont enter it, just cos best player is in it. Everyone is human and makes mistakes sometime. And I am happy when I get to a final against a player like that.
If you are bothered by a certain player winning all the time, then just stick to pleasure games.
You dont see F1 racers not entering a race for a prize etc, just because Ferrari always win. see what I mean?

Normally the winner would give a prize to a pawn or knight anyway if they are a Rook etc already, so whats the problem.

24. mars 2004, 16:26:03
coan.net 
The only problem with doing a "line" game is that I can already pick the 2 or 3 people who will probable win the thing. :-(

Battleboats? There anyone has a chance! :-)

24. mars 2004, 16:22:36
Czuch 
Maybe you could find others who want to offer a prize tournament, and make several 'flights' of a game, each offering a membership?

24. mars 2004, 16:20:53
Stevie 
Emne: Stevies faves tourny, open for sign ups
Stevies faves tourny

Games:
• Checkers
• Gothic Checkers
• Turkish Checkers
• Five in Line
• Reversi 6x6
• Reversi 8x8
• Anti Reversi
Have fun and enjoy the games,
Steve :o)

24. mars 2004, 16:08:26
Czuch 
Emne: Re:
Thats the problem Chatty... It almost has to be a game with a measure of luck to it, so anyone who joins at least has a sense of a chance to win. Otherwise, it is only an exercize in patients for the expert player, who will ultimatley win, if they dont get too bored waiting for the tournament to end.

24. mars 2004, 16:06:04
Stevie 
Have a look at the ratings page, 5 in line is popular, or spiderline 4 etc

24. mars 2004, 16:00:10
sandra... 
Thats what i was think steve... I know there are a lot of gammon games.. but really don't know what else is popular!!!

24. mars 2004, 15:58:20
Stevie 
Do something other than Gammons Chatty :o) every body does that.
Maybe a line game for a change

24. mars 2004, 14:49:33
sandra... 
Emne: Re: Prize tournaments
Ha ha ha ha!! i mean the game! the prize will be a membership !Lol

24. mars 2004, 14:36:23
rabbitoid 
Emne: Re: Prize tournaments
1000000$ would be nice

24. mars 2004, 14:31:14
sandra... 
Emne: Prize tournaments
I would like to do another prize tourney as my other is just about to come to an end.
Can i have some suggestions on what people would like please ?

24. mars 2004, 14:12:10
Linda J 
Emne: Re: Stevies Dollar per player donation Reversi tourny
Good job Steve! You too Harley! ;•)

24. mars 2004, 12:11:37
Stevie 
Emne: Stevies Dollar per player donation Reversi tourny
Hi all, probs sorted so donation made finally of 41 Euro = $50
Dollar donation tourny
So along with the 20.5 Euro that Harley pledged (50cents per player, so hopefully you will remember to send it in) Thats 61.5 Euro = $75
Thanks for those that joined :o)
Steve

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