Mr. Shumway: Yes.

Fencer: Thanks, sorry I will have to re-write it, I put a test on the discription

Fencer: did you ever decline a change?

WellyWales: You probably missed the red message all changes must be confirmed by me before they are visible.

I tried adding a description after setting up a tournament, I pressed edit, but it does not show, is this normal

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Hyper Backgammon tournaments for player plus 2100
Hyper Backgammon +2100 vol.3 (9p) 3day/move, 9 points with cube
1day/move:
Hyper Backgammon +2100 vol.4 (11p)
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it seems that knock out tournaments need all games to be finished before a next round starts ?

for example : this tournament

it would be nice if those fnished games of which the future is finished as well would start their next game

grenv: Fencer always get 30%

This tournament Winner takes all.

has a first prize 70%. Who gets the other 30%??

Random Five (Pente, Keryo Pente, or Pro Five in Line) with 2 games (switched colors) for each two players.

4 days, standard vacations.

Random Lines Elimination Circus

All lines, 8 players, 5 days per move

7 players need to get mrloupcity's first brain tourney Started.
The pay out 1: 50%, 2: 15%, 3: 5% Thxs for the baord space.

Bill

Come on everyone join this tourney, first 32 to join. Its a random tourney but only 1 version of chess and checkers are included. Elimination tourney so not loads of games at once, come on we can all play 1 more game, can't we?

Rose: Thanks for the help, I will just join.

Uninvited: I'd say you can either ask the person who created the tourney if they mind you joining, Or Join up and if they don't want you in they may remove you or send you anote. I've joined many tournies that I couldn't understand the tourney guidelines. I assumed if I wasn't wanted in I would be removed but that has never happened.</i>

There are some tournaments I would like to join but I only know how to read english, I notice there are no americans signed up for these.
Is there a way I can tell if they don't want americans to join ?

chessik is the Number "1", between 8 good players of the tournament 'Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05 (Crowded Backgammon)'

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05


Congratulations chessik!

Thanks to all other players!

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05

Thad: Have you messaged Kiwiyeti and asked what is going on?

nobody25 is the Number "1", between 7 good players of the tournament 'Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-06 (Hyper Backgammon)'

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-06

Congratulations nobody25!

Thanks to all other players!

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-06

It really stinks that (I) Kiwiyeti is holding up this tournament:
All about Pente!
and (II) that Fencer won't change things so that tournaments advance once a round winner is determined, even if all games are not complete. Slow play is fine, meaninglessly holding up a tournament is not.

Gammonator is the Number "1", between 7 good players of the tournament 'Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05 (Backgammon Race)'

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05

Congratulations Gammonator!

Thanks to all other players!

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05

All sections have their minimum number of players signed up; well done and thank you.
We'll just wait until 30 June to see if any more want to sign up.

Thanks Big Bad Wolf.

azeria: Yup, that is one of the "downsides" in being a pawn.

Many times, as long as you are done with your games in a tournament (like you are), and you have no chance to move on to the next round, if you send a message to Fencer and ask if he can "release" you from the tournament so you can join another one, he will normally do that.

Ok... I'm confused... I finished all my games for this tournament a long time ago... months... and don't have any chance of going any further. Yet, I can still not sign up for any other tournament until this one is over. People seem to be taking to long to finish their games... and meanwhile... I can't start anything new. Just a little frustrated.

Keep up the actual discussion people, I like to see that :D

KotDB: I appreciate the time taken explaing,thanks.

KotDB: Thanks, that helped!

Jim Dandy: The Sonneborn-Berger tiebreaker has nothing at all to do with ratings. It is calculated only from the results of the games played in this round of the tournament.

To compute your score in a tournament round, give yourself one point for each win, one half of a point for each draw, and zero points for each loss. In the present case, you played 6 games, winning 3 and losing 3, so your score is 1+1+1+0+0+0=3. The same is true for each of the other players.

To compute the S-B tiebreaker, multiply each other player's score by your score in games against that player, and add these up. In this case, each of the other players had a score of 3, and you won 1 game against each of them. Thus your S-B is (1*3)+(1*3)+(1*3)=9. The same is true for each of the other players.

Thus all players in this round finish with a score of 3 and an S-B of 9, and since no further tiebreakers are used, the result is a 4-way tie.

Tournament results are computed using only the results of games played in the tournament. No external factors (such as BKR) are considered. [The only exception to this in BrainKing's current tournament system is if a draw occurs in a single-elimination tournament, where, due to the structure of the tournament. it is necessary to have exactly one winner from each pair.]

Jim Dandy: Missed the "player rating portion" in your question, I thought asked if the SB was tossed out. Anyway, as rodnumbers says, player ratings are not a part of this.

Jim Dandy: Player rating (If you are talking about BKR) has nothing to do with figuring the SB.

It looks correct to me also.

Jim Dandy: Not tossed out, everyone got the same SB. Each win gives the same amount of SB points (3 points) because everyone are equally "strong", according to number of wins.

whopper: OK,so in the final backet of a tourney the player rating portion of the SB is tossed out the window?

whopper:Yes I read that prior to posting.Maybe I'm not too swift but it still doesn't seem to add up.

Jim Dandy: Stronger/weaker players refers to their performance in the current tournament, not their rating. I thought the same as you until I checked it out again now. http://brainking.com/en/FAQ?ht=19

BIG BAD WOLF: I thought the rating came into play while tabulating the SB

Jim Dandy:
What does "S-B" column at tournament tables mean?

S-B is an abbreviation for Sonneborn-Berger system. It is used to specify an order of players with the same number of points and is based on a theory that points earned with a stronger opponent are more valuable than with a weaker one. The S-B value is a total sum of points of opponents who lost the tournament game with the player and half points of opponents who drawn the tournament game with the player. Only if two or more players have the same number of "normal" and S-B points, they share the same final order.

All players got 3 points, and all players won once against each opponent. Seems correct to me.

Jim Dandy: First you look at how many games each person won (Each player won 3 total games = so each have 3 points)

Then to get the S-B, you add the points of the opponent the you won against.

(So player 1 won 3 games, each person had 3 points - so 3+3+3=9, which is the S-B)

gogul: I'm no expert when it comes to tabulating the SB results,but I was sure I'd come out on top.

Jim Dandy: LOL, I just wanted to post that result too.

Hannelore is the Number "1", between 10 good players of the tournament 'Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05 (Backgammon)'

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05

Congratulations Hannelore!

Thanks to all other players!

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05

Fencer: Thanks

gogul: Yes. But you can kick them out.