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20. mai 2005, 20:31:33
danoschek 
Emne: alanback: basically it is the
Modifisert av danoschek (20. mai 2005, 20:34:40)
same rules which are customary in tournaments here. just that pre-emptive sorting
of dice is not required - you may indeed choose which first - additionally, after you
started moving out you may move inside the house only from the topmost triangle yet
~*~

20. mai 2005, 20:28:43
danoschek 
Emne: test succeeded
still looking perfectly nice,
much better than with a public fart
who tries to make his smell reference. ~*~

20. mai 2005, 20:14:49
danoschek 
Emne: after we credited the channel noise
much more than for the sake of pleasance, any opinions about real backgammon ? ~*~ _

20. mai 2005, 20:11:04
danoschek 
Emne: Re: request for being hidden
Modifisert av danoschek (20. mai 2005, 20:19:18)
grenv:granted ! the source of the problem which pointed itself out so nicely
is indeed often a rumpelstiltskin perpetually&fixatively looking for trouble, worst
with a clue of backgammon, same as of board rules, like the warrows on a spire ... ~*~

20. mai 2005, 05:30:22
danoschek 
Emne: oh my me litany
Modifisert av danoschek (20. mai 2005, 05:32:32)
but after a while I'll get my hidelist tuned perfectly, promised Sue ...
still I'm surprised sometimes when ppl have no life but speculating about mine. ~*~ .

20. mai 2005, 04:04:08
danoschek 
Emne: ahhhh
thank you - obviously that restricts me less than others ...
true backgammon rulez - I have spoken .... ~*~ ...

19. mai 2005, 05:31:26
danoschek 
Emne: alanback: Re: "Pro" backgammon?
Modifisert av danoschek (19. mai 2005, 05:40:43)
indeed pro bg is a special variant ... it avoids the silly common hyperthread variation,
contrary to the spirit with no choice which of the dice to move first - probably invented by
ppl losing too much at solid rules, who even allow fiddling in the house after moving out ... ~*~

16. februar 2005, 03:59:25
danoschek 
Emne: yes should be no problem
with some (e.g. mine) tolerance.
main preset should be international rules. then a few
boxes with variations, for the pros too ... ... ~*~ .

16. februar 2005, 01:55:21
danoschek 
Emne: I think both options should be available - for me it's no glitch instead true bg
Modifisert av danoschek (16. februar 2005, 01:55:53)
because the socalled international rules are nothing to advance
real backgammon whatsoever, still I wait for the (optional) rule that
you must take from highest triangle first as soon as you started moving out. ~*~

14. februar 2005, 02:11:23
danoschek 
Emne: Re:
alanback: blitz anytime ... ... ~*~

11. september 2004, 18:13:13
danoschek 
Emne: I shall check as soon as my own life grants me so ... 0:)
since everybody plays them here I had never felt urged to look them up ... ~*~

11. september 2004, 17:51:23
danoschek 
Emne: I just picked up some threads :D
come to germany and try the professional rules.
I favor turkish opponents who know what bg spirit is about ~*~

11. september 2004, 17:41:38
danoschek 
Emne: ignoring the higher die rule
Modifisert av danoschek (11. september 2004, 17:43:20)
is obligatory for backgammon purists. like it could be
a matter of honour to take from the farest triangle when,
after moving out started, home-fiddling is needed ... ~*~

7. august 2004, 21:21:06
danoschek 
Emne: regarding nackgammon - the difference is the opening - e.g. double 5 and 5/6 are toprolls
Modifisert av danoschek (8. august 2004, 01:50:31)
but still the same three possible strategies are valid, if the dice grant any anyway ...
really different strategies are existing in crowded and gammon race. basically,
one cAn say - without doubling cube there's no strategy at all, software flaws rule ... ~*~

24. august 2003, 19:14:10
danoschek 
Emne: Re: An Old Backgammon Variation..
the old variants ( even anchestors ) 'TricTrac' and 'Puff'
should not be too hard to implement either ... ~*~ :)

19. august 2003, 11:21:28
danoschek 
Emne: I've published my rules
and indeed ... after your post,
mine has qualified as the meaningful half ... ~*~

19. august 2003, 01:17:30
danoschek 
Emne: kindergarden over ?
hopefully soon ... ~*~

18. august 2003, 23:30:02
danoschek 
you can't move a six from tacken 6 - the distance to tacken 1 is 5.

and I hardly cAn be convinced that luck is added - au contraire,
it is decreased ... for fiddling more moves fit than for removing. ~*~

18. august 2003, 17:39:47
danoschek 
Emne: "surely" ?? oh well
what an argument ... ugh :O ... nope, it adds smartness ...
as you cAn decide when you start removing stones... ~*~

18. august 2003, 14:53:05
danoschek 
Emne: well
impressions ... no arguments ...

the two dice rule makes the opponent more calculatable,
taking some smartness out of the game thus ...

fiddling in the house after the phase of removing stones started,
violates the spirit of backgammon ( you want out, so the farestmost
pieces have to be go forth if you can't remove a stone ... )
else only cowardliness and boredom take advantage ...

so far the rules that we use for tournaments and my arguments.

regarding chess software ... extensive misuse at iyt is exactly
the reason why I started to play rather the variants preferably ...

have a good week ... ~*~

18. august 2003, 00:24:00
danoschek 
Emne: iyt reference as given at 'feature requests' to your friend
I refrain from requesting to implement some artificial intelligence as new
feature for our comrades with such an immense natural stupidity because
respecting board topics is an unconquerable obstacle for hollow ramble-
fanatics and, their dwarfhood of screwing up to personal attacks ... ~*~

18. august 2003, 00:20:04
danoschek 
Emne: I was talking of the fisher clock
and I don't disrecommend the official bg-rules strictly ...

still waiting for feedback featuring arguments ... ~*~

18. august 2003, 00:11:26
danoschek 
Emne: I'm not here to diss people who ask a machine what they have rolled
although it seems kinda silly to me ... a personal impression.

I don't want to disturb yesmen and the official variant ...

no reason though to not implement the option of a real pro-game ...

Fisher tried that for chess too btw - on details, not essentials ...

just to clarify before even more of the obsessive fraction are mobilized ...

I'm not interested in sublimates of your iyt-damage ~*~

18. august 2003, 00:04:33
danoschek 
Emne: well we know what seems to you ... like arguments innecessary
haven't I bidden 'feedback without iyt-bs welcome' ??

next candidate please ... intelligent prefered ~*~

17. august 2003, 23:59:25
danoschek 
Emne: preaching again - no arguments ... who would follow stupid rules voluntarily ? :D ... that's why smart people have their own ... not to mention sensitive people who want to sense the dice period ( and roll themselves = not a rule?? )
no message ~*~

17. august 2003, 23:38:36
danoschek 
Emne: a sideline thought as warning ...
for me the whole online backgammon is plain humbug.

it's a game with dice ... important, k ?
and I dare demand to be rolling them myself ...

it's against the spirit of the rules known to me that somebody else rolls
- and least a so-called random-generator with a scheduled agenda ... ~*~

17. august 2003, 23:28:23
danoschek 
Emne: your rules are not our rules
yho isn't mho ... again just preaching, no arguments.
why important ?? phrases nothing but phrases ... ~*~

PS
hopefully it will remain an option at least to play the adults variants

17. august 2003, 22:12:57
danoschek 
Emne: backgammon rules and their variations where ever
the doubling cube was already requested as feature ...

there is some nonsense circulating about the one and only truth
some people seem to claim as their own ... aka philosophy aliens ... :P

actually I'm surprised that the commonly misused rule of restricting
my choice which die to use first comes from different places than
North-Korea - where anything related to freedom might cause pain.

so I am definitely pleased that it is not the brainking rule ...
as nobody from my closer circles uses that gamesense-distortion either.

claiming it as kinda 'pro' is just blonde-pro imho ...
rules are judged by their impact on the smartness of the game, not static.

we call 'our' rules 'pro' of course ... :P

amazingly no player here seems to miss a certain core-rule,
probably too complicated for some of the easy talkers who
don't even know their previous post when nailed to it ... :O

this fiddling in the house after removing of stones started
is children's play and sheer annoying ... our rule:
you may arrange your house-position as long as you haven't
removed any stones yet - then moving must happen from the
highest 'tacken' (as we call the triangles on the board)
to avoid the boredom and cowardliness of evading due strikes ...

to clarify - everything as known even here :D - until the
first stone is removed - that's actually a new phase - and even
if you would love so badly to move a '1' from tacken 4 to 3
you mustn't if you still have stones on tacken 5 or 6 ... ~*~

PS feedback without iyt-bs welcome ...

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