Thad: Archbishop = Bishop + Knight and not Bishop + Rook.....

Pedro Martínez: Oh no, please, do not even think of replacing with that evil-looking Janus piece, the powerful looking Archbishop....!

Now it works.....I've install the new beta on a new folder and just that!

Unfortunately there is again a problem with this beta version as it plays instantly every move....
What should we put for license keys to work properly until February....?

Here and on www.chessvariants.com/org and please hurry up! I'm curious.... You've explained me the basics but i want to see the whole concept.....!

SMIRF Engine: Congratulations Reinhard! CRC is indeed very good idea....!

WhiteTower: Is it that important? :)
It is not so important, yet i should have defined what the dot means. Dots or commas are both wrong if we want to follow international standards! Instead just the number as it is or using a single space for each 3 digits from the right is the correct way.......But i write from 4 years old numbers in this way and i guess Walter does the same, so it's not easy to forget it......

Walter Montego: A computer can run 24 hours a day studying each of the 960 positions and just keep getting more and more prepared for the next upcoming tournament.

There is something behind that that is very tricky!
Even if we suppose that we let a computer run and play against another computer FRC games, for even 15 years or 50 and then build an opening repertoire from that games, WE SHOULD NOT IN ANY WAY, CONCLUDE THAT THIS OPENING WE HAVE BUILT, IS A DECENT ONE TO PLAY FRC CHESS!

I had to use bold-capitals in that statement because it's a well known fact. The reason that our book that is based on 50 years or 1.000.000.000 games, is not suitable for a strong FRC opening book? Because it is based on the knowledge of the 2 computers they play and any weaknesses these 2 have will be included in the book! Even if we had 10 different computers with 10 different styles (personalities) for 50 years to play, then again we do nothing at all! Zero! Even if we include book learning (there is such an option now for the record) in the computers.
Again because the positional (mainly) weaknesses would be a major factor for being our opening book bad.
And these weaknesses will be exposed if we allow after 50 years the computer to play against a human GM at FRC........
So to build a good FRC book we need to play by both humans AND computers for a very long time AND successive learning by both of them during the process. This last one is very important........

For example such questions occur very often to Backgammon, where the top playing programs have obtained their enormous strength by playing millions of games against itself. Strangely enough this approach works for Backgammon while at Chess fails miserably......

The procedure is simple:
Program a Backgammon engine with some simple rules of knowledge. This engine would be a complete moron at Backgammon. Let it play 10.000 games against itself. Let it learn from its mistakes and then import the knowledge into a new engine. Let this engine play another 10.000 games and repeat the procedure. After many learning stages and about 60.000 games you will have a very strong Backgammon bot. This doesn't work at Chess!

And i say it is odd to reach their enormous strength by playing games against itself because this procedure would seeminly lead as i said to playing engine that would have many weaknesses in some areas. But it doesn't! Actually it does in some technical plays of Backgammon bots, but it's not so significant to prevent them plat at top level. But at Chess it fails completely!

Walter Montego: Reinhard was correct!
(Well almost, if he didn't assume that 400 were the years that we developed our Chess opening knowledge. He should say ~100 instead). But correct on what? On his statement that we have to wait around 960·400 years for having the same opening knowledge for all FRC position as we now have for Chess. Because this opening knowledge didn't come from computers but from humans mainly. Of course now that computers play at the same level or above from the very best humans we can learn from their games too. But "can" and "should" is different from "it will" and i mean we CAN learn from their games, so the years that the opening knowledge for all 960 FRC positions will not be 100·960, but less lower, but is any chance that this WILL happen? NO! There are not so much interested people on this to made it possible. So we have to wait for the natural evolution of this which will take the time Reinhard said.
But all these are not important.......

What is important is your wrong statement regarding FRC only:
When the gigs become teras and when understanding how to program these types of games becomes better and more efficiently improved, these games will be just as well mastered as regular Chess is nowadays.

Since now computers have the same strength or more of the top humans at handling Chess positions and since there are no opening books for FRC, the strength of computers at FRC IS the same or above (actually is above because FRC requires more tactics) from the top humans! So computers have already mastered FRC!

About Gothic Chess or CRC i think if there is an inceasing interest in these games, then in 2-3 years AND because these games are highly tactical, computers will be better than humans.......
(Consider this simple example: Gothic Vortex is based on Crafty(An open source engine that is looking with the hubble telescope the very top engines) mainly. And is already a very tough opponent. Consider what will happen if Gothic Chess engines will be based to Fruit or Shredder that are top Chess engines.)

SMIRF Engine:
Corrected link: Click me!

(You have inserted a dot after html in your link........)

tedbarber: I agree on most but you should not underestimate Kasparov saying him just excellent player.... Kasparov was one of the most dominating Chess-entities ever existed! Yet i think Fischer was at the exact same level of Kasparov showing a comparable genious.....I'll not speak about Capablanca but these 2 (Fis and Kasp) were the most amazing human Chess players this earth has seen.
Now they are both retired, i think the mighty Fruit 2.2.1 should be called their successor...

Of course! I'm interested.......

Caissus: Fisher has no chances against Kasparow

Well of course Fisher would not have a chance against Kasparov but what about Fischer?

Oh damn! When i try to connect then always something happens. Oh well, i hope it will be fixed soon.....

What is going on with GCLive? I tried 40 seconds before writing this message to connect but it keeps saying "Server failed".........?!?!?

andreas: I don't think Fisher will play with Kasparov, not even Fisher Random Chess... Kasparov is younger and would easily win.

Whaaaaaaat? Please say again because i didn't hear well. Easily? Oh NO! Not even with Fischer playing blindfold.......!

I want to see Pythagoras play Cartaphilus, that would be a great game!

And what if Cartaphilus is the Robert Fischer himself....? I mean what he has more to do in the cold Iceland from playing games....?

By the way is there any progress on Bobby Vs Garry event......?

I was online the last 2 days on GCLive for about half an hour but nobody played me because nobody was there. Are any scheduled times that i should log in?

By the way the interesting match GV Gold II beta against Smirf 1.29 continues at: this site.

Also after my current tournament will finish, i will play with the newer at that time Smirf (if it will be available) using a small opening book i'm developing in order to give it much better play....

So Zillions of Games shows a nice performance! I didn't expected this.... At Round 7 it beat with black Smirf 1.20 with a strange way. The opening moves was not good for Smirf nor ZoG but Smirf managed to play better and had a slighly better position, although it has shown a much more optimistic evaluation. I thought it would win but it played some dubious moves and after a crushing attack by ZoG it lost the game......
The other game needs no comments, Gothic Vortex scored a point convincingly against the old Smirf 0.59.

Round 7
SM1.20 - ZoG = 0-1
GV - SM0.59 = 1-0
Me bye....

Table after the 7th round out of 40:

PLAYER-|-Me---|-G.V----|-ZoG---|-SM120-|-SM059-| POINTS/GAMES

G.Vortex-|0-------|++++++|11------|1-------|11------| 5.0/6.0

Me-------|++++++|1-------|1-------|10------|1-------| 4.0/5.0

ZoG------|0-------|00------|++++++|11------|1-------| 3.0/6.0

Smirf1.20-|01------|0-------|00------|+++++|1-------| 2.0/6.0

Smirf0.59-|0-------|00------|0-------|0-------|+++++| 0.0/5.0

(1=win , 0=lose , ½=draw)

No draws after 14 games.....!

Next round 8:

SM0.59 - SM1.20
ZoG - Me
GV bye......


[Event "Gothic Chess"]
[Site "CHESSBOX"]
[Date "2005.06.09"]
[Round "User Game ?"]
[White "SM1.20"]
[Black "ZoG"]
[Result "0-1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNB
QCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

1. Nh3 {(11.01) +0.210} Af6 2. g3 {(10.02+) +0.518} Nh6 3. c4 {(10.01) +0.677}
Nc6 4. d3 {(09.11) +0.870} d6 5. Bxc6 {(10.32) +1.123} bxc6 6. Nc3 {(10.18)
+1.088} Rb8 7. Qa4 {(10.01) +1.534} c5 8. Ng5 {(09.02+) +1.578} Rb7 9. Af3
{(10.01) +2.424} Ng4 10. Nd5 {(09.23) +2.127} Ag8 11. h3 {(09.04) +1.574} Ne5
12. Ae4 {(10.25) +1.383} f5 13. Ad2 {(10.02=) +0.928} c6 14. Nc3 {(10.01=)
+1.076} h6 15. Nf3 {(11.01=) +1.082} Cf6 16. Nxe5 {(11.13) +2.619} dxe5 17. O-O
{(10.27) +2.417} Qd6 18. h4 {(08.02+) +2.136} Af7 19. Qa3 {(08.33) +2.566} j5
20. Cg1 {(08.20) +2.474} j4 21. j3 {(09.11) +2.144} Rj5 22. Ae3 {(10.01=)
+2.299} Ae6 23. Ag2 {(10.01) +2.076} Rh5 24. Ch3 {(09.45) +1.998} Rj5 25. Ch2
{(09.08) +2.390} i6 26. Af3 {(09.10) +2.111} Rh5 27. Ci4 {(09.32) +2.946} i5
28. hxi5 {(10.13) +3.457} Rxh1+ 29. Axh1 {(13.00) +3.670} Af7 30. Cxj4
{(12.01=) +3.748} hxi5 31. Cj7 {(11.23) +3.570} Cg4 32. Be3 {(08.33) +4.361} f4
33. gxf4 {(10.06) +3.360} Qi6 34. Cj8 {(12.19) +1.155} Qh6 35. f5 {(12.01)
+0.000} Qh2+ 36. Kj1 {(13.00-) -25.28} Bxf5 37. Ch7+ {(11.51) -36.90} Qxh7 38.
Kj2 {(07.45) -32.25} Qh4+ 39. Ki1 {(05.03) -28.44} Axj3+ 40. ixj3 {(03.01)
-40.72} Qh2+ 41. Kj1 {(04.00?) -999.9} Cg1# 0-1



[Event "SmirfGUI Computerchess Game"]
[Site "USER-403C8545D2"]
[Date "2005.10.27"]
[Time "17:43:15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "GV"]
[Black "SM0.59"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Annotator "George Tsavdaris"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNB
QCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

1. h3 d5 {(10.27) -0.059} 2. d4 h5 {(11.33) -0.023} 3. Nc3 g6 {(11.35) -0.017}
4. g3 Nh6 {(11.01) +0.167} 5. Bxd5 c6 {(12.44) +0.552} 6. Bb3 Bxd4 {(11.47)
+0.383} 7. Cd3 Cd6 {(12.16) +0.247} 8. Bf4 Cd7 {(12.57) +0.110} 9. Qd2 c5
{(10.03+) +0.067} 10. O-O-O Nc6 {(10.46) +0.074} 11. Aj4 Rh8 {(10.45) +0.239}
12. e3 i5 {(12.00) -1.011} 13. Axi5 Nb4 {(12.02+) -1.863} 14. Ce1 j6 {(11.41)
-2.654} 15. Axj6 Nxa2+ {(10.43) -3.541} 16. Bxa2 Bf6 {(11.17) -4.664} 17. Qe2
Qa5 {(10.46) -4.697} 18. Rxd7 Bxd7 {(11.42) -4.747} 19. e4 Bxc3 {(11.54)
-4.464} 20. bxc3 Qxc3 {(12.49) -4.542} 21. Cd3 Qa1+ {(13.55) -4.715} 22. Bb1
Bb5 {(13.52) -4.733} 23. c4 Bxc4 {(12.46) -4.799} 24. Qb2 Bxd3 {(15.42) -4.707}
25. Qxa1 f6 {(16.38) -4.901} 26. Ba2 Kg7 {(13.41) -4.830} 27. Bxg8 Rhxg8
{(13.36) -4.965} 28. Qc3 c4 {(14.12) -5.365} 29. Qb4 Rae8 {(13.36) -5.248} 30.
Ai5 g5 {(15.15) -6.000} 31. Bxg5 fxg5 {(15.15) -6.576} 32. Qc5 Kf6 {(14.26)
-6.629} 33. Axh6 Bxe4 {(15.26) -7.433} 34. Qd4+ Kg6 {(17.02) -7.688} 35. Ai7+
Kf5 {(15.02) -7.662} 36. Axh5 g4 {(15.28-) -M~???} 37. Af7 e5 {(14.00) -19.48}
38. Qd7+ Kf6 {(12.02-) -M~???} 39. Ah5+ Kg5 {(10.00?) -7.490} 40. Ai4+ Kf6
{(02.00?) -5.717} 41. Qf7# 1-0

Yes i've the hash on SM1.20 set to 160 MB....

Round 6 had me lose for the first time and that was with my favourite at this game white pieces! My bad opening play and especially my awful 15.Ng3?? decided the game immediately.......

Gothic Vortex from the other side, had an easy win against Zillions of Games......The game from ZoG's side was too stupid to give it.....If anyone is interested just say it, to post it....

Round 6
Me - SM1.20 = 0-1
ZoG - GV = 1-0
SM0.59 bye....

Table after the 6th round out of 40:

PLAYER-|-Me---|-G.V----|-ZoG---|-SM120-|-SM059-| POINTS/GAMES

Me-------|++++++|1-------|1-------|10------|1-------| 4.0/5.0

G.Vortex-|0-------|++++++|11------|1-------|1-------| 4.0/5.0

ZoG------|0-------|00------|1-------|++++++|1-------| 2.0/5.0

Smirf1.20-|01------|0-------|+++++|0-------|1-------| 2.0/5.0

Smirf0.59-|0-------|0-------|0-------|0-------|+++++| 0.0/4.0

(1=win , 0=lose , ½=draw)


Next round 7:

SM1.20 - ZoG
GV - SM0.59
Me bye......


[Event "Gothic Chess"]
[Site "CHESSBOX"]
[Date "2005.06.09"]
[Time "??:??:??"]
[Round "User Game ?"]
[White "Me"]
[Black "SM1.20"]
[Result "0-1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNB
QCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

1. f4 g6 {(11.01) -0.109} 2. d4 Nh6 {(11.06) +0.266} 3. Be3 c5 {(11.01) +1.090}
4. c3 cxd4 {(12.00) +0.984} 5. cxd4 Qb6 {(11.01) +0.936} 6. Cd3 Ng4 {(10.08=)
+1.058} 7. h3 Nxe3+ {(12.01=) +1.405} 8. Axe3 Nc6 {(11.01+) +1.258} 9. g4 Nxd4
{(10.14) +1.545} 10. Ad5 Qd8 {(10.01) +1.675} 11. Nj3 d6 {(10.12) +1.675} 12.
Nc3 Bf6 {(11.00) +1.892} 13. e3 Nc6 {(11.01=) +2.019} 14. Ne4 Bg7 {(11.00)
+2.017} 15. Ng3 Be6 {(12.00) +4.160} 16. Axc6 bxc6 {(12.00) +4.061} 17. Bxc6
Bc4 {(11.01) +4.743} 18. Bxe8 Qxe8 {(11.28) +5.024} 19. O-O Bxd3 {(12.08)
+4.895} 20. Qxd3 Bxb2 {(11.10) +4.895} 21. Rab1 Rb8 {(11.01) +5.117} 0-1

All these are nice and good but where is the program........? I guess i have to purchase it again, right......?

I haven't much time lately that's why i didn't run any new rounds. I'm back at normal now......

Round 5 continued with an adventure win for me against GV. What a game! Game started after the opening with a favourable for me position, as i had set up for a typical "Gothic Vortex" attack and at
this point it seemed clear to me that G.V could not resist in any way.....My anti-comp game leading to an invisible for GV attack worked perfectly! And after 19.Ci3 i was sure that my attack was unstopable!
But the damn GV proved with precise moves, that there was a defense and after my primary attack
lost its power, GV seemed better. Then i created a smaller attack but again it was obvious that it will not lead anywhere....The final position before the endgame? I had a Bishop and a Rook against the
Queen of GV with a semi-open position, being one Pawn behind too. GV played generally wrong the
endgame allowing my h2-Pawn to advance to h7 so the game was draw anyway since GV had the option of
repeating the moves, giving checks.......
But then G.V played a terrible move -64...d3??- not continuing the series of checks and i immediatelly found the easy win......The bad thing for G.V is that after all exchanges that led to a position Rook+Bishop+1Pawn for me against 7 Pawns of GV, didn't show a decisive advantage for me but only a slight one......
This is logical since the capturing of Pawns would occur after many maneuvers and many plies later,
but todays programs are not "bean counters" that have to reach many plies to see the truth, but they
are supposed to be more knowledgeable.....GV is not a bean counter but not so knowledgeable as it has
to travel a long way until this happens.....
There was also the win of Zillions of Games against Smirf 0.59. I have underestimated ZoG after all! It is showing a rather nice performance...... ZoG in this game, ouplayed SM0.59 completely......


Round 5
Me - GV = 1-0
ZoG - SM0.59 = 1-0
SM1.20 bye....

Table after the 5th round out of 40:

PLAYER-|-ME---|-G.V----|-ZoG---|-SM120-|-SM059-| POINTS/GAMES

Me-------|++++++|1-------|1-------|1-------|1-------| 4.0/4.0

G.Vortex-|0-------|++++++|1-------|1-------|1-------| 3.0/4.0

ZoG------|0-------|0-------|1-------|++++++|1-------| 2.0/4.0

Smirf1.20-|0-------|0-------|+++++|0-------|1-------| 1.0/4.0

Smirf0.59-|0-------|0-------|0-------|0-------|+++++| 0.0/4.0

(1=win , 0=lose , ½=draw)

Next round 6:

Me - SM1.20
ZoG - GV
SM0.59 bye......


Me-GV 1-0
-----------
1. f4 Nh6
2. d4 d5
3. Nj3 g6
4. Be3 Bf6
5. g3 Nc6
6. c3 Nf5
7. Bf2 Ah6
8. h3 O-O
9. e3 Ng7
10. Bf3 b6
11. Ah2 Ba6+
12. Kg1 Ni6
13. h4 Bg7
14. i4 Ag8
15. i5 Bc8
16. Ri1 Af6
17. Ai4 Bf5
18. Cg2 Qd7
19. Ci3 h5
20. ixh6 Bxh6
21. g4 Bj4
22. gxf5 gxf5
23. Kf1 Bxi3
24. Rxi3 Ag8
25. h5 Ng7
26. Bj6 Rh7
27. Ag5 f6
28. Axh7+ Kxh7
29. Ni5+ Ki8
30. h6 ixj6
31. h7+ Axh7
32. Bxj7+ Ki7
33. Nxh7+ Kxh7
34. Qe1 Kg6
35. Ri7 Cg8
36. Qxj6+ Kf7
37. Bi6 Ch8
38. Rh7 Ci8
39. Qj7 Nxd4
40. Na3 Nb5
41. Kf2 Rh8
42. Rh1 Rxh7
43. Rxh7 Kf8
44. Ri7 Ch8
45. Rxg7 Cxj7
46. Rxj7 Nxa3
47. bxa3 Qa4
48. j4 Ke8
49. Rh7 Qxa3
50. j5 Qxc3
51. j6 Qd2+
52. Be2 d4
53. Rh8+ Kf7
54. j7 Qxe3+
55. Kf1 Qxf4+
56. Ke1 Qi1+
57. Kf2 Qj2+
58. Kf1 Qj5+
59. Kg1 Qg5+
60. Kh1 Qc1+
61. Kg2 Qg5+
62. Kh1 Qc1+
63. Kg2 Qd2
64. Kf1 d3
65. Bh5+ Ke6
66. j8=Q Qxj8
67. Rxj8 c5
68. Ra8 c4
69. Rxa7 Kd6
70. Rb7 e5
71. Rxb6+ Kc5
72. Rxf6 c3
73. Ke1 e4
74. Rxf5+ Kd4
75. Rg5 c2
76. Kd2 e3+
77. Kc1 e2
78. Bxe2 dxe2
79. Rg1 Kc3
80. a4 Kb4 1-0


[Event "SmirfGUI Computerchess Game"]
[Site "USER-403C8545D2"]
[Date "2005.10.22"]
[Time "20:31:37"]
[Round "?"]
[White "ZoG"]
[Black "SM0.59"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Annotator "George Tsavdaris"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNB
QCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

{Game was terminated by passing the time limit.} 1.d4 g6 {(10.27) -0.183} 2.Af3
d6 {(11.33) +0.229} 3.Nh3 h6 {(09.38) +0.303} 4.Nc3 Na6 {(10.38) +0.338} 5.j4
c5 {(09.37) +0.290} 6.d5 Bxc3 {(14.40) +1.140} 7.bxc3 Af6 {(14.29) +1.047}
8.Ad2 Axd5 {(12.17) +1.050} 9.Axh6+ Nxh6 {(14.02) +1.034} 10.Qxd5 O-O {(13.28)
+1.036} 11.Cf3 Bg4 {(11.39) +1.186} 12.Ch4 Qd7 {(10.45) +1.045} 13.f3 Cf6
{(12.00) +1.022} 14.Qb3 Be6 {(09.57) +1.141} 15.c4 Cf5 {(09.52) +1.083} 16.Cxf5
Nxf5 {(12.42) +0.914} 17.j5 Nd4 {(13.38) +1.327} 18.Qd3 Nb4 {(13.03) +1.558}
19.Qd2 Rh7 {(13.02+) +0.642} 20.c3 Nbc2 {(13.19) +0.545} 21.Rb1 Bxc4 {(12.48)
+0.285} 22.cxd4 Nxd4 {(13.31) +0.315} 23.Nf4 Rxh2 {(09.56) +0.888} 24.Nh3 Bxe2+
{(17.53) -3.609} 25.Kf2 Kh7 {(15.53-) -M~003} 26.Qxi7+ Kg8 {(14.00?) -0.316}
27.Bh6 Rxg2+ {(12.46-) -M~002} 28.Bxg2 Nxf3 {(09.42-) -M~001} 1-0

I should note that the above PGN, in order to be pasted into Smirf has to be "fixed" first, as the

Brainking posts-system breaks the line with the FEN......

I have observed many others: 789 for example with Pawn-b........

Because is not convenient at all to download each version, uninstall the old and then installing the newer, can you invent a simpler method?
Also is the above procedure i'm doing the most easy? I mean, is there any other way of installing the newer versions......?

What i would like to see in future Smirf versions:
a)Play the 34...Cj4+ move and then 35...Bg2! in the below game.
b)Not play early in the opening Bxc6 or Bxh6 giving its Bishop for a Knight.
c)Stop exchanging a Chancellor or an Archbishop for a Rook and a Knight or Bishop, without seeing any combination that gains immediate advantage.....

Smirf 1.19 has been updated to Smirf 1.20. Although updating engines in the middle of a tournament, is not an appropriate way of testing the programs, i will make this update. For any new updates i will first finish this tournament and then include the newer versions in a new one and compare the final results.....

Oh my, oh my! Smirf 1.20 blew it! In its game against G.V it had a winning position but it didn't
managed to find the winning move and not only this but it lost at the end.....The opening phase wasn't
the best for both and Smirf seemed a bit better. After some nice moves by Smirf, that GV didn't expect, Smirf took a small advantage but GV managed to equalize and it even thought it was slightly
better. After a good move by Smirf (25...Bd5!) followed by a nice plan to attack the white's King, GV started to worry and at move 34 thought it was losing. The only thing Smirf had to do was to find 34...Cj4+ and then after 35.Ki1 Bg2! white is clearly losing.....But it played some moves that was out of what game required, so it lost the advantage and at the and it lost the game too. After Smirf lost its attack, GV easily outplayed Smirf especially at the endgame. The opposite happened in the middlegame, but that was not enough for Smirf.
In the other game, although at the start Smirf didn't let me use my anti-comp strategy of: creating a strong quiet attack,let it prevail in the non-King side and then unlease my attack, i've managed to take advantage that its King was exposed and with a poisonous Rook sacrifice i've created an
unstopable attack, so i won......


Round 4
SM0.59 - Me = 0-1
G.V - SM1.20 = 1-0
ZoG bye....

Table after the 4th round out of 40:

PLAYER-|--ME-|--G.V--|-SM119-|-ZoG-|-SM059-| POINTS/GAMES

G.Vortex-|--------|++++++|1-------|1-------|1-------| 3.0/3.0

Me-------|++++++|--------|1-------|1-------|1-------| 3.0/3.0

Smirf1.20-|0-------|0-------|+++++|0-------|1-------| 1.0/4.0

ZoG------|0-------|0-------|1-------|+++++|--------| 1.0/3.0

Smirf0.59 |0-------|0-------|0-------|--------|+++++| 0.0/3.0

(1=win , 0=lose , ½=draw)


Next round 5:

Me - G.V
ZoG - SM0.59
SM1.20 bye......


[Event "Gothic Chess"]
[Site "CHESSBOX"]
[Date "2005.10.05"]
[Time "15:22:00"]
[Round "User Game ?"]
[White "G.V"]
[Black "SM1.20"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNB
QCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

1. f3 h5 {(11.01) +0.105} 2. Nc3 Nh6 {(11.01) +0.345} 3. d4 g6 {(11.01) +0.639}
4. Nh3 Nc6 {(10.08) +0.676} 5. d5 Bxc3 {(11.04) +0.957} 6. bxc3 Ne5 {(11.00)
+0.913} 7. g3 c6 {(10.00) +0.975} 8. dxc6 Nxc6 {(10.01) +0.976} 9. Bg2 Af6
{(10.01) +1.004} 10. Bxh6+ ixh6 {(13.00) +1.221} 11. Ae3 O-O {(11.19) +1.153}
12. Qd2 d6 {(10.05) +1.086} 13. O-O Cg7 {(08.22) +1.086} 14. c4 Ci6 {(09.19=)
+1.316} 15. f4 Be6 {(09.21) +1.525} 16. Cg1 Qa5 {(09.01=) +1.517} 17. Qxa5 Nxa5
{(12.01=) +1.538} 18. c5 Ag4 {(10.46) +1.744} 19. Axg4 hxg4 {(13.24) +1.479}
20. Nf2 dxc5 {(12.28) +1.343} 21. Cb1 a6 {(11.41) +1.343} 22. Ca3 Nc6 {(12.01)
+1.319} 23. Rhb1 Ra7 {(11.00) +0.992} 24. Bxc6 bxc6 {(12.01=) +0.943} 25. Nd3
Bd5 {(11.02=) +1.303} 26. Ne5 Kj8 {(11.30) +1.663} 27. c4 Be4 {(14.06) +2.238}
28. Rb6 Ri8 {(12.03) +2.010} 29. i3 Ci5 {(11.05) +1.848} 30. Rxa6 Ch3+
{(12.02=) +1.568} 31. Ki2 Cj4+ {(13.12) +1.714} 32. Ki1 Cj3+ {(13.09) +1.627}
33. Ki2 Rxa6 {(14.05) +0.534} 34. Cxa6 Cj6 {(14.01) +0.896} 35. Nd3 Bg2
{(12.00) +1.852} 36. Nf2 Cj4+ {(11.21) +1.187} 37. Kj1 Ci4 {(12.01) +1.076} 38.
Ki1 Ci5 {(13.34) +0.996} 39. Kj1 Cf5 {(12.02) +1.076} 40. Ca3 j5 {(11.26)
+0.781} 41. e4 Ch5 {(13.26) +0.812} 42. Ki1 Cj4 {(12.41) +0.812} 43. Ce3 Bh3
{(14.21) +0.629} 44. Nxh3 Cxh3+ {(15.02+) +0.408} 45. Ki2 h5 {(13.00) +1.311}
46. Cg2 j4 {(13.01=) +0.395} 47. a4 Ra8 {(13.02=) +0.260} 48. Ch4 Cxh4+
{(13.30) +0.133} 49. ixh4 Ra5 {(16.05) -0.191} 50. Kj3 f6 {(17.05) -0.485} 51.
Kxj4 Ra8 {(17.02) -1.370} 52. a5 Re8 {(15.08=) -1.665} 53. a6 Ki7 {(16.08=)
-2.688} 54. a7 Ra8 {(18.00) -2.862} 55. f5 gxf5 {(18.02) -2.816} 56. exf5 Kh6
{(19.00) -2.937} 57. j3 Ki6 {(19.02=) -3.134} 58. Ra2 Kh6 {(18.14=) -2.836} 59.
Ra1 Ki6 {(22.03) +0.000} 60. h3 Kh6 {(18.01) -2.947} 61. hxg4 hxg4 {(17.11)
-3.179} 62. Ki3 Kh5 {(17.03=) -3.210} 63. j4 Ki6 {(18.01) -3.474} 64. Ra6 Kj5
{(16.17+) -3.537} 65. h5 Ri8+ {(20.01=) -4.103} 66. Kj3 Ra8 {(22.01=) -4.708}
67. Ra2 Kj6 {(20.01=) -4.801} 68. Ki4 Ki7 {(19.13) -4.710} 69. Ki5 Kh7
{(21.01=) -5.048} 70. h6 Kg8 {(18.01) -8.576} 71. Ki6 1-0


[Event "SmirfGUI Computerchess Game"]
[Site "USER-403C8545D2"]
[Date "2005.10.05"]
[Time "17:36:24"]
[Round "?"]
[White "SM0.59"]
[Black "George Tsavdaris"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "George Tsavdaris"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNB
QCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

1.g3 {(10.27) +0.196} d5 2.d3 {(11.33) +0.236} h6 3.h4 {(11.38) +0.463} Nj6
4.Nh3 {(10.40) +0.725} g6 5.c3 {(11.32) +0.625} Bg4 6.Qa4 {(10.00) +0.868} Bi6
7.c4 {(10.50) +0.969} c6 8.cxd5 {(10.52) +0.869} cxd5 9.Qb3 {(11.49) +0.936}
Cc7 10.Nc3 {(11.50) +0.884} e6 11.Bf4 {(10.53) +0.923} Cc5 12.Qa3 {(10.59)
+0.940} Ae7 13.Bf3 {(09.35) +0.940} Nh5 14.Bd2 {(09.55) +0.501} Bf6 15.g4
{(09.01) +0.731} Ng7 16.g5 {(09.51) +0.801} hxg5 17.hxg5 {(09.53) +0.674} Be5
18.Bxi6 {(10.18) +0.589} Nxi6 19.f4 {(10.46) +0.672} Bd6 20.Axc5 {(11.49)
+2.233} Bxc5 21.Qb3 {(13.42) +2.000} O-O 22.Qxb7 {(10.45) +2.598} Af5 23.Qxa8
{(12.51) +3.229} Rxh3 24.Nxd5 {(12.00) +1.938} Qh8 25.Ne3 {(11.15) +0.452} Ag3+
26.Kg1 {(14.01) -3.260} Axi2+ 27.Kf1 {(14.02) -4.148} Axj1 28.Qg2 {(14.18)
-5.169} Rh1+ 29.Kf2 {(15.02) -5.196} Qh4+ 30.Kf3 {(13.02-) -M~???} Rh3+ 31.Ke4
{(11.03-) -M~???} f5+ 32.gxf6 {(10.03-) -M~???} Rxe3+ 33.Bxe3 {(08.00?) +0.056}
Af5+ 34.Kf3 {(06.02-) -M~???} Bxe3 35.Qg1 {(17.33-) -M~???} Qh3+ 36.Qg3
{(02.00?) +1.369} Qxg3# 0-1


I should note that the above PGN, in order to be pasted into Smirf has to be "fixed" first, as the

Brainking posts-system breaks the line with the FEN......

Round 3 continued with an easy win for me against Zillions of Games and a long game that ended with a win for the newer Smirf 1.19 against the older version Smirf 0.59. In this game SM0.59 played better the early middlegame after also a slighly better opening play, but SM1.19 managed to outplay it in the long run and get into a clear won endgame, that managed to win easily.......

Round 3
Me - ZoG = 1-0
SM1.19 - SM0.59Z = 1-0
G.V bye....

Table after the 3d round out of 40:

PLAYER-|--ME-|--G.V--|-SM119-|-ZoG-|-SM059-| POINTS/GAMES

Me-------|+++++|--------|1-------|1-------|--------| 2.0/2.0

G.Vortex-|--------|+++++|--------|1-------|1-------| 2.0/2.0

Smirf1.19-|0-------|--------|+++++|0-------|1-------| 1.0/3.0

ZoG------|0-------|0-------|1-------|+++++|--------| 1.0/3.0

Smirf0.59 |--------|0-------|0-------|--------|+++++| 0.0/2.0

(1=win , 0=lose , ½=draw)

Next round 4:

SM0.59 - Me
G.V - SM1.19
ZoG bye......

[Event "Gothic Chess"]
[Site "CHESSBOX"]
[Date "2005.06.09"]
[Time "22:37:36"]
[Round "User Game ?"]
[White "SM1.19"]
[Black "SM0.59"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNB
QCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

1. Nh3 {(11.01) +0.204} g6 2. g3 {(10.05)
+0.177} d6 3. c4 {(10.22) +0.231} h6 4. j4 {(10.02=) +0.398} c5 5. Nc3 {(10.16)
+0.396} Nc6 6. Bxc6 {(10.08) +0.654} bxc6 7. Af3 {(11.08) +0.483} Bd7 8. d3
{(09.13) +0.267} Bd4 9. Be3 {(09.43) +0.475} Bxe3 10. fxe3 {(11.01=) -0.243}
Rb8 11. Qa4 {(11.01) -0.167} Rxb2 12. Qxa7 {(10.35) -0.364} Cc7 13. Qa3
{(11.02=) -0.358} Cb7 14. Rb1 {(10.02=) -0.278} Rxb1 15. Cxb1 {(12.01) -0.805}
Cxb1+ 16. Nxb1 {(14.00) -1.028} Ng7 17. Nc3 {(12.01=) -1.229} Aj5 18. Rj3
{(11.03=) -1.194} g5 19. Ag2 {(13.00) -1.083} Ai4 20. Kg1 {(13.18) -0.979} g4
21. Nf4 {(13.01) -1.062} Axg2 22. Nxg2 {(13.01=) -0.997} Qb6 23. j5 {(13.01)
-0.795} O-O 24. j6 {(13.00) -0.742} i6 25. Nf4 {(12.02+) -0.632} i5 26. e4
{(12.01) -0.626} Ni6 27. Qc1 {(12.01) -0.605} Ng5 28. a4 {(11.08=) -0.598} Qa5
29. Nh5 {(12.01=) -0.314} Rb8 30. Qc2 {(11.01) -0.644} Kh7 31. Ni7 {(11.03=)
-0.575} Kh8 32. Nj5 {(12.01) -0.238} Kg7 33. Ri3 {(12.01=) -0.315} Be6 34. Qd2
{(11.15+) +0.001} Rb3 35. Rxi5 {(15.04) +1.714} Qxc3 36. Rxg5+ {(16.16) +1.592}
Kh7 37. Qxc3 {(19.00) +1.291} Rxc3 38. Rh5 {(19.00) +1.305} Ki6 39. i4 {(17.00)
+2.037} Ra3 40. Nxh6 {(16.08) +1.893} Rxa4 41. Nf5 {(16.01+) +2.085} Bxf5 42.
Rxf5 {(17.08) +2.437} Ra1+ 43. Kg2 {(20.01) +1.812} f6 44. Rf4 {(20.01=)
+2.478} Re1 45. Rxg4 {(19.11) +2.625} Rxe2+ 46. Kh1 {(18.03+) +2.121} Kh7 47.
Rh4+ {(17.01=) +1.862} Ki6 48. Rh8 {(17.01=) +2.033} Rd2 49. Re8 {(17.03)
+1.905} Rxd3 50. Rxe7 {(17.06) +1.710} Kxj6 51. Kg2 {(16.12=) +1.826} Rd4 52.
Re6 {(16.13) +2.010} Ki7 53. h4 {(16.01) +2.201} Rxc4 54. Rxd6 {(17.01=)
+2.687} Rc2+ 55. Kh3 {(17.01) +3.260} Re2 56. Rxf6 {(17.02) +3.331} Rxe4 57. i5
{(18.02+) +3.673} Re1 58. Rxc6 {(17.01) +3.886} Rh1+ 59. Kg4 {(18.00) +3.948}
Rc1 60. h5 {(16.01) +4.095} Rc4+ 61. Kg5 {(17.01) +4.462} Ra4 62. Rxc5 {(16.11)
+4.718} Ra7 63. Rc8 {(16.01) +5.610} Rg7+ 64. Kh4 {(18.00) +6.050} Ra7 65. g4
{(16.00) +6.027} Kh7 66. Rj8 {(15.02+) +5.841} Ki7 67. Rb8 {(16.00) +6.080} Kh7
68. Re8 {(15.10) +5.979} Rd7 69. g5 {(16.01) +6.554} Rd4+ 70. Kg3 {(17.00)
+6.632} Rd5 71. Kg4 {(17.01) +6.733} Rd4+ 72. Kf5 {(18.01) +7.164} Rd5+ 73. Kf6
{(18.01) +7.335} Rd6+ 74. Kf7 {(19.01) +10.87} Rd7+ 75. Kf8 {(19.03=) +16.30}
Kh8 76. g6 {(21.01=) +18.29} Rg7 77. Rd8 {(21.05) +22.00} Rg8+ 78. Ke7
{(22.01=) +M~013} 1-0


I should note that the above PGN, in order to be pasted into Smirf has to be "fixed" first, as the Brainking posts-system breaks the line with the FEN......

Unfortunatelly i didn't managed to finish the 3 round, but this will be done tomorrow. I've played only 1 game: Smirf 0.59 - Gothic Vortex = 0-1 That was an easy win for Vortex.........

Round 2
ZoG - SM1.17 = 1-0
SM0.59 - G.V = 0-1
ME bye....


Table after the 2nd round of 40:

PLAYER |POINTS/GAMES

G.Vortex | 2.0/2.0

Me          | 1.0/1.0

ZoG        | 1.0/2.0

Smirf1.17| 0.0/2.0

Smirf0.59| 0.0/1.0

Pairings for Round 3:
SM1.19 - SM0.59 (There will be an update on Smirf 1.17 promoting to 1.19 version)
Me - ZoG
G.V bye......


[Event "SmirfGUI Computerchess Game"]
[Site "USER-403C8545D2"]
[Date "2005.10.03"]
[Time "22:34:08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Smirf 0.59"]
[Black "Gothic Vortex Gold-I"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "George Tsavdaris"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNB
QCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

1. Nh3 {(00.00?) +0.062} d6 2. d3 {(00.00?) -0.060} Nh6 3. g3 {(13.18) +0.225}
Nc6 4. Bxc6 {(11.14) +0.340} bxc6 5. Kg2 {(12.00) +0.290} g6 6. Af3 {(12.37)
+0.292} d5 7. c3 {(11.51) +0.292} Bg4 8. Ag1 {(13.01+) +0.336} Bf6 9. f3
{(11.37) +0.639} Be6 10. Qa4 {(12.01) +0.729} Cd6 11. Ac5 {(11.57) +0.802} Cb5
12. d4 {(11.73) +0.778} Bxh3+ 13. Kxh3 {(12.04) +1.090} Qc8+ 14. Kg2 {(13.03)
-0.018} Qxi2 15. Ci1 {(12.53) -0.043} Qf5 16. h4 {(11.16) +0.042} Cb8 17. b3
{(10.34) +0.062} i6 18. j3 {(09.55) +0.729} Ai7 19. Ci5 {(11.54) +0.696} Aj5+
20. Kh2 {(12.06) +0.618} O-O 21. Cxf5 {(12.61) +0.618} Nxf5 22. Bf4 {(12.50)
+0.521} Nd6 23. Nd2 {(10.49) +0.438} h6 24. Ad3 {(10.39) +0.289} Cb6 25. Qa5
{(11.32) +0.377} a6 26. Rji1 {(10.01+) +0.481} Rh7 27. Ab4 {(09.63) +0.676} Cb7
28. Qa4 {(11.55) +0.910} Nb5 29. e4 {(09.40) +1.119} g5 30. Be5 {(10.21)
-0.709} Bxe5 31. dxe5 {(12.47) -1.037} gxh4 32. Axe7 {(12.47) -1.201} hxg3+ 33.
Kxg3 {(14.03) -1.272} Rg7+ 34. Kf2 {(14.04) -2.519} Ah3+ 35. Ke3 {(14.02)
-2.555} Rg2 36. Raf1 {(12.18) -3.062} Nxc3 37. Rxi6+ {(11.19) -4.776} jxi6 38.
Qxc6 {(12.44) -6.300} d4+ 39. Kxd4 {(14.01) -6.062} Ne2+ 40. Kc4 {(16.04-)
-M~???} Ca5+ 41. Kb4 {(14.02-) -M~???} Cxa2+ 42. Kc5 {(12.02-) -M~???} Ae6+ 43.
Qxe6 {(10.00?) -6.523} Ca5+ 44. Kb4 {(08.00?) -6.523} Cb5+ 45. Kc4 {(06.02-)
-M~???} Cc3+ 46. Kb4 {(04.00?) -6.513} a5+ 47. Ka3 {(04.00?) -5.921} Cc2+ 48.
Ka4 {(02.00?) +1.259} Nc3# 0-1

I should note that the above PGN to be pasted into Smirf it has to be "fixed" first, as the Brainking posts-system breaks the line with the FEN......

Oops yep, 160 MB was the setting.....

AMD 3800+ 2.4 GHz....
256 MB hash........

Replaying the game with Smirf 1.17 i can't reproduce moves: 19...Bd7 , 21...a6.
Whhich moves you can't reproduce.......?

Round 2
ZoG - SM1.17 = 1-0
SM0.59 - G.V = will follow tomorrow along with 3 round........
Me bye....

ZoG - SM1.17 = 1-0
This game came as a surprise to me partly because although at one moment Smirf 1.17 seemed it will take the win, it finally lost, but mainly because i had highly overestimated its strength and this game showed to me that Smirf has a long way to travel before it can become the way i have imagined it was..........

3 VERY IMPORTANT things:

1)Smirf once again (like in its game on the GC forum with Gothic Vortex) gave one of its major pieces for a combination of 2 minor pieces. Specifically it gave its Chancellor for a Rook and a Bishop. As Ed Trice said and i completely agree, this exchange is completely wrong if there are no immediate advantages. I definitely advice Reinhard to give a penalty for such an exchange, if there is no tactical trick in the horizon that gains immediate advantage.......

2)Smirf even after having 2 Rooks against a Rook and a Chancellor of ZoG, it evaluated the position as unclear or even at some moments as its advantage!!!!!!!!Not a really trustworthy evaluation......

3)The time control can be characterized as a rather rapid game or even blitz game, so as Reinhard has already said about Smirf, having problems with non-slow controls, this is definite "excuse"
for Smirf for answering the bad play after one point. But it's definitely no excuse for the above
2 things i mentioned........Slow or blitz, even thinking to give a C for a R+B without an immediate gain, but for stretegical reasons, is completely wrong.....And having an drawing evaluation in a game you have 2R versus R+C is again completely wrong.......

Table after the half 2 round:

PLAYER |POINTS/GAMES

Me          | 1.0/1.0

G.Vortex | 1.0/1.0

ZoG        | 1.0/2.0

Smirf1.17| 0.0/2.0

Smirf0.59| 0.0/0.0


Tha only game played:

[Event "Gothic Chess"]
[Site "CHESSBOX"]
[Date "2005.06.09"]
[Time "22:37:36"]
[Round "User Game ?"]
[White "ZoG"]
[Black "SM1.17"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNB
QCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

{The time limit has been passed.} 1. Af3 Nc6 {(11.00) +0.020} 2. Nc3 Nh6
{(11.07) +0.180} 3. Nh3 g6 {(10.14) +0.248} 4. d3 Bf6 {(10.04=) +0.323} 5. Nd5
d6 {(10.01) +0.068} 6. Nxf6 Axf6 {(11.01=) +0.049} 7. Ag5 Ag4 {(10.26) +0.188}
8. Bf4 O-O {(11.01) +0.438} 9. f3 Ai6 {(10.47=) +0.417} 10. d4 Axg5 {(12.01)
+0.776} 11. Bxg5 Ni4 {(11.25) +0.895} 12. Bi3 h5 {(11.23) +0.909} 13. j3 h4
{(11.02=) +0.645} 14. jxi4 hxi3 {(11.06) +0.645} 15. hxi3 e5 {(10.31) +0.526}
16. d5 Nd4 {(11.01) +0.799} 17. e3 Nf5 {(12.38) +0.901} 18. Ce2 Qxi3 {(10.25)
+2.036} 19. i5 Bd7 {(10.02=) +2.207} 20. Kf2 Qf6 {(09.01) +2.426} 21. Qd3 a6
{(09.01) +2.563} 22. Qe4 Qi3 {(09.01) +2.465} 23. Rj3 Qh4+ {(12.00) +2.305} 24.
g3 Qxe4 {(12.00) +1.982} 25. fxe4 Ng7 {(13.00) +1.620} 26. Bf3 Cf6 {(11.19)
+1.347} 27. Kg2 Nh5 {(12.01) +1.485} 28. i4 Ni3+ {(13.14) +2.030} 29. Rxi3 Rxh3
{(15.00) +2.082} 30. Cf2 Cxf3 {(14.00-) +2.253} 31. Cxf3 Rxi3 {(16.17) +0.000}
32. Cxf7 Ri2+ {(15.29) +0.000} 33. Kf3 Bh3 {(16.01) +0.000} 34. Cg7+ Kj8
{(19.01) +0.000} 35. Ch7+ Ki8 {(18.00?) +0.000} 36. Cxh3 Rf8+ {(16.03) +1.241}
37. Kg4 Rxi4+ {(14.25) +0.628} 38. Kg5 Rxe4 {(14.16) +0.763} 39. g4 Rc4
{(13.00-) +0.576} 40. Ch2 Rg8 {(13.15) +0.000} 41. b3 Rc3 {(14.22) +0.249} 42.
Ce2 Rc5 {(16.00) -0.797} 43. Rd1 Kj8 {(13.01) -0.038} 44. e4 Ki8 {(13.01)
+0.078} 45. Kf6 g5 {(12.23) -0.644} 46. Rh1 c6 {(14.04) -0.912} 47. Ke6 cxd5
{(14.10) -1.059} 48. Kxd6 Rc6+ {(15.01) -1.443} 49. Kxd5 Rgc8 {(14.08) -1.961}
50. c4 Rc5+ {(14.01) -2.115} 51. Ke6 b5 {(13.11) -2.203} 52. Cd2 bxc4 {(15.01=)
-1.715} 53. bxc4 Rxc4 {(14.06) -1.891} 54. Kxe5 Re8+ {(14.20) -1.883} 55. Kf5
Rc5+ {(16.01) -2.111} 56. Kg6 Rce5 {(14.16) -1.828} 57. Rf1 Rg8+ {(15.01)
-2.354} 58. Kf6 Ree8 {(16.00) -2.020} 59. e5 Ref8+ {(15.15) -2.020} 60. Ke6 Rd8
{(15.02) -2.128} 61. Cb1 Rde8+ {(13.18) -2.104} 62. Kf5 Ref8+ {(14.05=) -2.603}
63. Ke4 Rb8 {(14.01) -2.811} 64. Cc3 Rb4+ {(13.01=) -2.522} 65. Kf5 Rf8+
{(12.16) -2.629} 66. Kg6 Rg8+ {(15.16) -2.802} 67. Kf7 Rbb8 {(15.00) -2.962}
68. Rf6 a5 {(14.00) -3.012} 69. e6 Rbf8+ {(15.01=) -3.733} 70. Ke7 Rd8 {(14.15)
-4.354} 71. Rf5 Rde8+ {(13.01) -4.199} 72. Kf6 Ref8+ {(14.11) -5.020} 73. Ke5
Rb8 {(15.02=) -6.872} 74. e7 j6 {(13.22) -5.497} 75. ixj6 ixj6 {(13.00-)
-9.127} 76. Ci3+ Kj8 {(14.03) -46.37} 77. Ci6+ Kj7 {(13.00?) -18.19} 78. Cd6
Rb5+ {(16.25) -37.10} 1-0

I should note that the above PGN to be pasted into Smirf it has to be "fixed" first, as the Brainking posts-system breaks the line with the FEN......

I download from http://www.chessbox.de/Compu/schachsmirf_e.html the SMIRF Beta Download.

And that was before 4-5 days......

But you don't have to worry. You have the same! I just used as a version NOT this shown in the "about" box but that in the starting page that says: Ver. BC 117. My "about" says what your about says.....

I'm running a small double-double Round Robin Gothic Chess tournament, with the following participants:

Gothic Vortex Gold = G.V
Hash= 256 MiB
Time = 30 seconds per move
Book= ON

Smirf 1.17 beta = SM1.17
Hash= 265 MiB
Time= 30 seconds per move

Zillions of Games = ZoG
Time= 30 seconds per move

Smirf 0.59 beta = SM0.59
Hash = 256 MiB
Time= 30 seconds per move

Me = Me
Time= 40/20' + 40/20' + 20' (around 30 sec/move)

On every series of rounds, every player will play against any other with black and with white.
There will be 4 series. Every serie will have 10 rounds. Every player will play 32 games, 16 with white and 16 with black.

Round 1

G.V - ZoG = 1-0
SM1.17 - Me = 0-1
SM0.59 Bye.....

Below is the game of me against Smirf 1.17:


[Event "Gothic Chess"]
[Site "CHESSBOX"]
[Date "2005.06.09"]
[Time "22:37:36"]
[Round "User Game ?"]
[White "Smirf 1.17"]
[Black "Me"]
[Result "0-1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNB

QCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

1. Nh3 {(12.01) +0.177} g6 2. g3 {(11.00) +0.177} h6 3. f4 {(10.05) +0.716} d6
4. d4 {(10.01) +0.710} Bf6 5. Bf3 {(11.00) +0.517} Ah7 6. j4 {(09.02+) +0.485}
Cg7 7. e4 {(09.10+) +1.183} e6 8. e5 {(10.43) +1.915} Be7 9. Nc3 {(08.39)
+1.809} c6 10. a4 {(10.08) +2.324} Nj6 11. exd6 {(08.25) +1.985} Bxd6 12. Rj3
{(09.43) +1.755} Nd7 13. Ri3 {(09.01) +1.866} i6 14. f5 {(08.34) +1.866} Cxf5
15. Ae3 {(10.01=) +1.600} g5 16. Ne4 {(10.01) +1.546} Be7 17. Axf5 {(09.21)
+1.546} exf5 18. Nc3 {(10.40) +0.903} Nf6 19. Ce5 {(10.03=) +0.490} Bd6 20. Ce2
{(10.06) +0.146} Njh5 21. Rj3 {(10.18) -0.630} Kg7 22. i4 {(09.03) +1.374} Re8
23. Cg2 {(10.39) +1.404} g4 24. ixh5 {(11.39) +1.273} Nxh5 25. Be2 {(11.01=)
+1.533} Aj6 26. Nj2 {(11.01+) +1.701} Qc7 27. Qd3 {(08.17) +2.621} Re6 28. j5
{(09.01) +2.750} Ai5 29. jxi6 {(11.01=) +2.053} Axj3 30. ixj7 {(10.30) +2.245}
Bd7 31. Bxg4 {(09.22) +1.864} fxg4 32. Qi8 {(11.00) +1.581} Bxg3 33. hxg3
{(10.31) +0.000} Nxg3+ 34. Kf2 {(12.00-) -0.143} Rf6+ 35. Bf4 {(12.01=) -2.121}
Rxf4+ 36. Kg1 {(12.00) -1.801} Ni2+ 37. Cxi2 {(14.01) -1.230} Axi2+ 38. Qxi2
{(14.00) -1.541} Qd8 39. Qi7+ {(11.27) -1.530} Kg6 40. Ne2 {(11.39) -1.620} Rf3
41. Qi4+ {(10.33) -2.157} Kh7 42. Qj5+ {(13.00) -2.782} Kg7 43. Qe5+ {(12.11)
-3.773} Kg6 44. Nh1 {(12.39+) -4.119} Qg5 45. Ra3 {(13.02) -4.463} Qxe5 46.
dxe5 {(15.12) -6.542} Rxa3 0-1

Round 2 will follow tomorrow......

I assume that creating a starting Gothic Chess X-FEN in the variants.PGN and matching Smirf against G.V and posting the results is not something illegal right.......? I mean making Smirf play Gothic Chess with a indirect way, is not something illegal right.....?

Now it works..........!
Only my old Gothic Chess key for playing Gothic Chess too doesn't work. Do you have any key to let it play against Gothic Vortex and Zillions........?

I have installed newer Smirf beta on a clean interface(never installed any Smirf before) and faced the problem Walter and others describe. No matter what time i set per move for Smirf to play, it plays in 1-2 seconds.........
So it's not a matter of INI files but it is general. Smirf beta has a bug not allowing searcch of more than 1-2 seconds....

And that's of cource the reason for losing against Zillions. From 0.55 beta Smirf was already crushing Zillions. So now, current version should be able to perform around 90%+ against Zillions.......

I should note that current Gothic Vortex perform around 98%+ against Zillions....

Reinhard:
Last time my time hasn't allowed me of properly testing Smirf and i feel ver sorry about this....I had millions things/tests to do with it, but all the situation -i had so many things to do back then (exams for university,football practice,studying 4 mathematical problems...etc)- prevented me from giving you any results since i run only a few games.....But this time is different. I have enough time to concentrate on Chess engines testing and Smirf.
So if you want to give me another chance i would be glad to test the newer Smirf.......

I'm the old "Chessmaster1000", George, so just tell me if you want another beta tester.....

The only tournament Smirf has participated has been in last November, where it tooks place four of eight in the Gothic Chess World Championship.

Today it will be 100% 2nd and ?% first........Assuming the strength of the opponents would be the same. If it's not then just the 100% would be 87%. The progress of Smirf is amazing....
I concluded the above from the 2 games you posted against Gothic Vortex and from some others....

Nah, even after a billion of games here, the percentage of draws will be more or less the same......Why?
A-80%)Because the strength of most players is on beginner's level........
B-20%)There are many time-outs......

mahavrilla:
S-1:That seems like an accurate statement.
S-2:Janus seems way too complicated for its value on the first move to be decided at this point.


You agree with the Sumerian's statement of having white a 3/10 Pawn starting advantage(S-1) AND you believe that Janus is way too complicated for any speculation about the starting advantage of any player(S-2)????????????????

That's crazy........!

For Chess there is the general idea that black has to fight (not hard) to gain equity first and then if he succeeds he can look for a win.
For Gothic Chess the same is not valid and both sides seems to have equal chances.
For Janus Ed Trice mainly and i -in a much smaller degree- have the opinion that Black has "something" better. I don't know what is this "something" but i can feel it.....Black seems to me, to have more attacking chances.....

Yep........
I thought it would be more than obvious.....

Grim Reaper: I would like to believe that never having suffered a loss in Janus while collecting a fair number of wins allows me the freedom to speculate that the game might be inherently easier to play from Black's perspective.

The above is much different from the:

White is also at a disadvantage by moving first in Janus

My opinion about Janus, although as like you, i dislike this game as it is too diagonal, is that it is well balanced, even though i have the same feeling -in a much lower degree- that black has something better.....

or evidence that the moon is NOT made out of green cheese.
Can you give me an evidence for the opposite....?
Only if you transfer me into the moon you can convince me and this is quite difficult.....

Grim Reaper:White is also at a disadvantage by moving first in Janus.

No i don't think so. I or you or anyone can not prove anything of cource, and i understand that this was just your opinion, your feeling, about the game, but the fact you feel that you have troubles with white while with black not, doesn't prove nothing.........

I don't know if you moderators are fans of Ingrid Bergman, but it would be better if you called the game Capablanca Random Chess.........

Interesting........