As someone has kindly bought me a temporary membership I’ve taken the
opportunity to update the percentage win table for regular Run Around
The Ponds.

This table is compiled by ranking players on a percentage of games won basis. To be eligible players must now have won at least 3 ponds.
The number of wins figures link to a list of the tournaments won and BKR
ratings link to a graph of their history. Only completed ponds are
included.

This list includes all players with 3 or more wins.


Rank…..Played ..........Won ........…….......... Rating

..1 ............23 ................8 ..........34.8%..........2140P...... ............ Mike UK 
..2 ..........216 ..............61 ..........28.2%.......... 2150.................... basplund
..3 ............64 ..............17 ..........26.6%.......... 2299.................... Ramón Martínez
..4 ..........334 ..............74 ..........22.2%.......... 2401.................... AlanP
..5 ..........782 ............155 ..........19.8%.......... 2432.................... Pedro Martínez
..6 ..........102 ..............19 ..........18.6%.......... 2368.................... Jannssen
..7 ..........730 ............134 ..........18.4%.......... 2527.................... Vikings
..8 ..........528 ..............96 ..........18.2%.......... 2430.................... Dalmatiner
..9 ............67 ..............12 ..........17.9%..........2279........ ............ pyssso
10 ..........110 ..............18 ..........16.4%.......... 2321.................... furbster
11 ............55 ................8 ..........14.5%..........2414........ ............ Matarilevich
12 ............21 ................3 ..........14.3%..........1978P...... ............ phlorix
13 ..........438 ..............59 ..........13.5%.......... 2310.................... Maxxina
14 ..........323 ..............42 ..........13.0%.......... 2492.................... BIG BAD WOLF
15 ..........182 ..............23 ..........12.6%.......... 2203.................... herman99
16 ..........147 ..............17 ..........11.6%.......... 2521.................... Andre Faria
17 ..........160 ..............18 ..........11.3%.......... 1642.................... Mystic River
18 ..........261 ..............29 ..........11.1%.......... 2356.................... rabbitoid
19 ............45 ................5 ..........11.1%..........2175........ ............ TeamBundy
20 ..........209 ..............23 ..........11.0%.......... 2425.................... Londo
21 ..........355 ..............39 ..........11.0%.......... 2354.................... alexlee
22 ............49 ................5 ..........10.2%..........1478........ ............ RadRx
23 ..........120 ..............12 ..........10.0%..........2306........ ............ Scooter
24 ............61 ................6 ............9.8%..........2215........ ............ lukulus
25 ..........123 ..............12 ............9.8%..........2292........ ............ varkala
26 ..........206 ..............20 ............9.7%.......... 2447.................... Labbeda
27 ............33 ................3 ............9.1%..........2085........ ............ NOT a floosie
28 ............78 ................7 ............9.0%..........1972........ ............ Morgan
29 ............57 ................5 ............8.8%..........2411........ ............ H0nzík
30 ..........139 ..............12 ............8.6%..........2414........ ............ linfan
31 ..........164 ..............14 ............8.5%..........2145........ ............ Czuch Czuckers
32 ..........212 ..............18 ............8.5%.......... 2378.................... arpa
33 ..........301 ..............25 ............8.3%.......... 2039.................... Monica
34 ..........121 ..............10 ............8.3%..........2218........ ............ rod03801
35 ..........148 ..............12 ............8.1%..........2151........ ............ Erinity
36 ............37 ................3 ............8.1%..........2177........ ............ Mely
37 ............64 ................5 ............7.8%..........2508........ ............ Zach
38 ............90 ................7 ............7.8%..........2083........ ............ ali
39 ..........117 ................9 ............7.7%..........2131........ ............ grenv
40 ............39 ................3 ............7.7%..........2054........ ............ hexkid
41 ............53 ................4 ............7.5%..........2264........ ............ zockerdotcom
42 ............40 ................3 ............7.5%..........2212........ ............ jryden
43 ............40 ................3 ............7.5%..........2039........ ............ Syn
44 ..........194 ..............14 ............7.2%..........2589........ ............ Marshmud
45 ............42 ................3 ............7.1%..........2246........ ............ txindoki
46 ..........733 ..............52 ............7.1%.......... 2502.................... tonyh
47 ............43 ................3 ............7.0%..........2300........ ............ El Cid
48 ..........383 ..............25 ............6.5%.......... 2380.................... veronikaP
49 ............46 ................3 ............6.5%..........2157........ ............ Sinay
50 ..........108 ................7 ............6.5%..........2411........ ............ aissi
51 ............67 ................4 ............6.0%..........2009........ ............ Backoff
52 ..........185 ..............11 ............5.9%..........2358........ ............ Flake
53 ............51 ................3 ............5.9%..........2338........ ............ WhisperzQ
54 ............52 ................3 ............5.8%..........2100........ ............ pgt
55 ............53 ................3 ............5.7%..........2336........ ............ jitkasafa
56 ..........339 ..............19 ............5.6%.......... 2478.................... karij
57 ............72 ................4 ............5.6%..........1729........ ............ Jofaserimon
58 ............73 ................4 ............5.5%..........2082........ ............ Luisifer
59 ..........147 ................8 ............5.4%..........2193........ ............ FOTBALISTA
60 ............93 ................5 ............5.4%..........2074........ ............ saeco
61 ............56 ................3 ............5.4%..........1783........ ............ MariaAnna
62 ............94 ................5 ............5.3%..........1877........ ............ dmk
63 ............57 ................3 ............5.3%..........1845........ ............ grafzahl
64 ..........232 ..............12 ............5.2%..........2387........ ............ Nothingness
65 ............99 ................5 ............5.1%..........2201........ ............ SilentBob
66 ..........563 ..............28 ............5.0%.......... 2203.................... Kiwiyeti
67 ..........210 ..............10 ............4.8%..........2413........ ............ streetrodder
68 ..........168 ................8 ............4.8%..........2011........ ............ Mr. Shumway
69 ..........105 ................5 ............4.8%..........1930........ ............ kitti
70 ............63 ................3 ............4.8%..........2362........ ............ Brian1971
71 ............88 ................4 ............4.5%..........1861........ ............ TIGER0005
72 ..........204 ................9 ............4.4%..........2162........ ............ Mach Machovic
73 ............70 ................3 ............4.3%..........2349........ ............ Specs
74 ..........728 ..............31 ............4.3%.......... 2526.................... ßăķëď Äłáşķǻñ
75 ............95 ................4 ............4.2%..........2106........ ............ Picasso1012
76 ..........120 ................5 ............4.2%..........2186........ ............ Bry
77 ............72 ................3 ............4.2%..........2416........ ............ Jason
78 ..........255 ..............10 ............3.9%..........2295........ ............ MIHEL
79 ............78 ................3 ............3.8%..........2273........ ............ ScarletRose
80 ..........339 ..............13 ............3.8%..........1908........ ............ Rose
81 ..........426 ..............15 ............3.5%..........2268........ ............ Pbarb2
82 ..........116 ................4 ............3.4%..........2008........ ............ Haluska
83 ............87 ................3 ............3.4%..........2191........ ............ hyncaba
84 ..........151 ................5 ............3.3%..........2311........ ............ Tina Maurencova
85 ............97 ................3 ............3.1%..........2047........ ............ Evásek
86 ..........587 ..............18 ............3.1%.......... 2269.................... BerniceC
87 ..........132 ................4 ............3.0%..........1816........ ............ Cheri
88 ..........202 ................6 ............3.0%..........1984........ ............ Hannelore
89 ..........105 ................3 ............2.9%..........1427........ ............ macik
90 ..........214 ................6 ............2.8%..........2091........ ............ Skittles
91 ..........154 ................4 ............2.6%..........1936........ ............ fra
92 ..........130 ................3 ............2.3%..........2424........ ............ Beaupol
93 ..........142 ................3 ............2.1%..........2308........ ............ dexter
94 ..........190 ................4 ............2.1%..........1902........ ............ kickbut
95 ..........146 ................3 ............2.1%..........1743........ ............ Charolais
96 ..........266 ................5 ............1.9%..........2289........ ............ dalkelly
97 ..........761 ..............12 ............1.6%..........2194........ ............ MARFIČKA
98 ..........205 ................3 ............1.5%..........2185........ ............ Somelaughs2
99 ..........685 ................9 ............1.3%..........2022........ ............ Molly

Hopefully I've got it right this time.

This table is compiled by ranking players on a percentage of games won basis. To be eligible players must have won at least 2 ponds.
The number of wins figures link to a list of the tournaments won and BKR ratings link to a graph of their history. Only completed ponds are included.

This list includes all 67 players with 2 or more wins. CAN ANYONE DELETE MY PREVIOUS POST PLEASE?

Rank…..Played ..........Won ........…….......... Rating


..1 ............22 ................8 ..........36.4%.......... 2424P...... ............ Mike UK
..2 ..............9 ................2 ..........22.2%.......... 2474P...... ............ cvopa
..3 ............33 ................7 ..........21.2%.......... 1999........ ............ basplund
..4 ..........449 ..............95 ..........21.2%.......... 2475........ ............ Pedro Martínez
..5 ............32 ................6 ..........18.8%.......... 2700........ ............ Matarilevich
..6 ............93 ..............17 ..........18.3%.......... 2446........ ............ furbster
..7 ..........418 ..............73 ..........17.5%.......... 2467........ ............ Vikings
..8 ............37 ................6 ..........16.2%.......... 2687........ ............ Jannssen
..9 ............31 ................5 ..........16.1%.......... 2361........ ............ Hanis
10 ............13 ................2 ..........15.4%.......... 2451P...... ............ El Arbiter
11 ............14 ................2 ..........14.3%.......... 1995P...... ............ MariaAnna
12 ..........304 ..............41 ..........13.5%.......... 2546........ ............ Maxxina
13 ............39 ................5 ..........12.8%.......... 2172........ ............ RadRx
14 ..........302 ..............38 ..........12.6%.......... 2543........ ............ BIG BAD WOLF
15 ..........111 ..............13 ..........11.7%.......... 2488........ ............ Andre Faria
16 ............37 ................4 ..........10.8%.......... 2031........ ............ Luisifer
17 ..........134 ..............14 ..........10.4%.......... 2534........ ............ rabbitoid
18 ............48 ................5 ..........10.4%.......... 2604........ ............ Morgan
19 ............88 ................9 ..........10.2%.......... 2221........ ............ Kata Liana
20 ............70 ................7 ..........10.0%.......... 2625........ ............ aissi
21 ............40 ................4 ..........10.0%.......... 2129........ ............ TIGER0005
22 ............51 ................5 ............9.8%.......... 2400........ ............ Londo
23 ............41 ................4 ............9.8%.......... 2336........ ............ zockerdotcom
24 ..........206 ..............20 ............9.7%.......... 2645........ ............ Monica
25 ..........109 ..............10 ............9.2%.......... 2357........ ............ Flake
26 ..........120 ..............11 ............9.2%.......... 2381........ ............ Czuch Chuckers
27 ............99 ................9 ............9.1%.......... 2225........ ............ Erinity
28 ............33 ................3 ............9.1%.......... 2333........ ............ SilentBob
29 ............22 ................2 ............9.1%.......... 2590P...... ............ Zach
30 ..........125 ..............11 ............8.8%.......... 2275........ ............ alexlee
31 ............35 ................3 ............8.6%.......... 2198........ ............ jitkasafa
32 ............35 ................3 ............8.6%.......... 1836........ ............ Sinay
33 ............36 ................3 ............8.3%.......... 2544........ ............ Mely
34 ............78 ................6 ............7.7%.......... 1888........ ............ Labbeda
35 ..........414 ..............29 ............7.0%.......... 2296........ ............ tonyh
36 ............29 ................2 ............6.9%.......... 2317........ ............ George Miller
37 ..........104 ................7 ............6.7%.......... 2343........ ............ grenv
38 ............62 ................4 ............6.5%.......... 2494........ ............ Backoff
39 ............31 ................2 ............6.5%.......... 1896........ ............ lukulus
40 ............64 ................4 ............6.3%.......... 1789........ ............ Jofaserimon
41 ............54 ................3 ............5.6%.......... 2503........ ............ Jason
42 ............37 ................2 ............5.4%.......... 2393........ ............ txindoki
43 ............93 ................5 ............5.4%.......... 2519........ ............ karij
44 ..........113 ................6 ............5.3%.......... 1932........ ............ Hannelore
45 ............38 ................2 ............5.3%.......... 1920........ ............ pgt
46 ..........192 ..............10 ............5.2%.......... 2269........ ............ Nothingness
47 ............96 ................5 ............5.2%.......... 2050........ ............ kitti
48 ............99 ................5 ............5.1%.......... 2601........ ............ arpa
49 ..........164 ................8 ............4.9%.......... 2162........ ............ Mach Machovic
50 ............82 ................4 ............4.9%.......... 2076........ ............ dmk
51 ............41 ................2 ............4.9%.......... 1932........ ............ Stevie
52 ............62 ................3 ............4.8%.......... 2059........ ............ ScarletRose
53 ............43 ................2 ............4.7%.......... 2370........ ............ Scooter
54 ..........108 ................5 ............4.6%.......... 2441........ ............ Bry
55 ............45 ................2 ............4.4%.......... 2090........ ............ harley
56 ..........248 ..............11 ............4.4%.......... 2519........ ............ Pbarb2
57 ............46 ................2 ............4.3%.......... 1744........ ............ hyncaba
58 ..........204 ................8 ............3.9%.......... 2079........ ............ abnznz
59 ............61 ................2 ............3.3%.......... 2123........ ............ drgnrdr
60 ............97 ................3 ............3.1%.......... 1399........ ............ macik
61 ..........102 ................3 ............2.9%.......... 2538........ ............ dexter
62 ............75 ................2 ............2.7%.......... 2061........ ............ Daniel Snyder
63 ..........221 ................5 ............2.3%.......... 2534........ ............ BerniceC
64 ..........138 ................3 ............2.2%.......... 2220........ ............ fra
65 ..........210 ................3 ............1.4%.......... 1869........ ............ Molly
66 ..........144 ................2 ............1.4%.......... 2055........ ............ kickbut
67 ..........438 ................5 ............1.1%.......... 2246........ ............ Arctic Warrior

This table is compiled by ranking players on a percentage of games won basis. To be eligible players must have won at least 2 ponds.
The number of wins figures link to a list of the tournaments won and BKR ratings link to a graph of their history. Only completed ponds are included.


Rank…..Played ..........Won ........…….......... Rating

..1 ............16 ................6 ..........37.5%.......... 2572P.................. Mike UK
..2 ............24 ................7 ..........29.2%.......... 2700P.................. basplund
..3 ..........399 ..............81 ..........20.3%.......... 2482.................... Pedro Martínez
..4 ............85 ..............16 ..........18.8%.......... 2552.................... furbster
..5 ..........367 ..............68 ..........18.5%.......... 2700.................... Vikings
..6 ............11 ................2 ..........18.2%.......... 2086P.................. MariaAnna
..7 ............20 ................3 ..........15.0%.......... 2196P.................. Hanis
..8 ............28 ................4 ..........14.3%.......... 2552.................... RadRx
..9 ............29 ................4 ..........13.8%.......... 2351.................... Luisifer
10 ............29 ................4 ..........13.8%.......... 2700.................... Matarilevich
11 ..........277 ..............35 ..........12.6%.......... 2252.................... Maxxina
12 ..........277 ..............31 ..........11.2%.......... 2333.................... BIG BAD WOLF
13 ............27 ................3 ..........11.1%.......... 2179.................... TIGER0005
14 ..........133 ..............14 ..........10.5%.......... 2497.................... rabbitoid
15 ............19 ................2 ..........10.5%.......... 1936P.................. NOT a floosie
16 ............39 ................4 ..........10.3%.......... 2533.................... zockerdotcom
17 ............59 ................6 ..........10.2%.......... 2477.................... aissi
18 ..........111 ..............11 ............9.9%.......... 2311.................... Czuch Chuckers
19 ..........102 ..............10 ............9.8%.......... 2285.................... Flake
20 ............31 ................3 ............9.7%.......... 1970.................... Sinay
21 ............94 ................9 ............9.6%.......... 2311.................... Andre Faria
22 ............33 ................3 ............9.1%.......... 2228.................... jitkasafa
23 ............22 ................2 ............9.1%.......... 2627P.................. Jannssen
24 ............71 ................6 ............8.5%.......... 2058.................... Erinity
25 ............36 ................3 ............8.3%.......... 2544.................... Mely

I've included single wins for these as so few games have been completed so far.


Rank…..Played ..........Won ........…….......... Rating
..1 ..............3 ................1 ..........33.3%.......... Unrated .......... Mach Machovic
..2 ..............3 ................1 ..........33.3%.......... Unrated .......... Skittles
..3 ..............6 ................2 ..........33.3%.......... 1640P ............ furbster
..4 ............23 ................5 ..........21.7%.......... 2065P ............ Pedro Martínez
..5 ............14 ................3 ..........21.4%.......... 1848P ............ Matarilevich
..6 ..............5 ................1 ..........20.0%.......... 1626P ............ Ferjo
..7 ............20 ................3 ..........15.0%.......... 1708P ............ BIG BAD WOLF
..8 ............16 ................2 ..........12.5%.......... 1466P ............ karij
..9 ............17 ................2 ..........11.8%.......... 1752P ............ Pbarb2
10 ..............9 ................1 ..........11.1%.......... 1266P ............ Andre Faria
11 ............11 ................1 ............9.1%.......... 1453P ............ Maxxina
12 ............13 ................1 ............7.7%.......... 1585P ............ Nothingness
13 ............13 ................1 ............7.7%.......... 1645P ............ arpa
14 ............14 ................1 ............7.1%.......... 1182P ............ Arctic Warrior

Time for an update.

We now have 54 players with 2 wins or more out of a total number of players of 220.

Rank…..Played ..........Won ........…….......... Rating

..1 ............10 ................5 ..........50.0%.......... 2236P .......... Mike UK
..2 ............20 ................6 ..........30.0%.......... 2576P .......... basplund
..3 ..........370 ..............74 ..........20.0%.......... 2643 ............ Pedro Martínez
..4 ............82 ..............16 ..........19.5%.......... 2446 ............ furbster
..5 ............11 ................2 ..........18.2%.......... 2086P .......... MariaAnna
..6 ..........353 ..............64 ..........18.1%.......... 2638 ............ Vikings
..7 ..........267 ..............34 ..........12.7%.......... 2488 ............ Maxxina
..8 ............16 ................2 ..........12.5%.......... 2144P .......... Hanis
..9 ..........268 ..............31 ..........11.6%.......... 2464 ............ BIG BAD WOLF
10 ............18 ................2 ..........11.1%.......... 2538P .......... Jannssen
11 ............27 ................3 ..........11.1%.......... 2310 ............ Luisifer
12 ............28 ................3 ..........10.7%.......... 2700 ............ Matarilevich
13 ............19 ................2 ..........10.5%.......... 1936P .......... NOT a floosie
14 ..........125 ..............13 ..........10.4%.......... 2127 ............ rabbitoid
15 ............39 ................4 ..........10.3%.......... 2533 ............ zockerdotcom
16 ............59 ................6 ..........10.2%.......... 2477 ............ aissi
17 ..........109 ..............11 ..........10.1%.......... 2230 ............ Czuch Chuckers
18 ..........100 ..............10 ..........10.0%.......... 2247 ............ Flake
19 ............31 ................3 ............9.7%.......... 1970 ............ Sinay
20 ............64 ................6 ............9.4%.......... 2198 ............ Erinity
21 ............33 ................3 ............9.1%.......... 2228 ............ jitkasafa
22 ............22 ................2 ............9.1%.......... 2251P .......... TIGER0005
23 ............36 ................3 ............8.3%.......... 2544 ............ Mely
24 ............88 ................7 ............8.0%.......... 2306 ............ Andre Faria
25 ............26 ................2 ............7.7%.......... 2578 ............ Londo
26 ............26 ................2 ............7.7%.......... 2123 ............ pgt
27 ............68 ................5 ............7.4%.......... 1922 ............ Labbeda
28 ............41 ................3 ............7.3%.......... 2493 ............ arpa
29 ............28 ................2 ............7.1%.......... 2020 ............ lukulus
30 ............29 ................2 ............6.9%.......... 1855 ............ drgnrdr
31 ..........147 ..............10 ............6.8%.......... 2209 ............ Monica
32 ............59 ................4 ............6.8%.......... 1870 ............ Jofaserimon
33 ............45 ................3 ............6.7%.......... 2229 ............ ScarletRose
34 ..........294 ..............19 ............6.5%.......... 2410 ............ tonyh
35 ............49 ................3 ............6.1%.......... 2522 ............ Jason
36 ............51 ................3 ............5.9%.......... 2164 ............ alexlee
37 ............86 ................5 ............5.8%.......... 1892 ............ kitti
38 ..........111 ................6 ............5.4%.......... 2072 ............ Hannelore
39 ............38 ................2 ............5.3%.......... 1755 ............ hyncaba
40 ..........161 ................8 ............5.0%.......... 2599 ............ Pbarb2
41 ............41 ................2 ............4.9%.......... 2313 ............ karij
42 ..........146 ................7 ............4.8%.......... 2200 ............ Mach Machovic
43 ..........151 ................6 ............4.0%.......... 2355 ............ Nothingness
44 ..........102 ................4 ............3.9%.......... 2482 ............ Bry
45 ............78 ................3 ............3.8%.......... 1497 ............ macik
46 ............82 ................3 ............3.7%.......... 2050 ............ grenv
47 ............56 ................2 ............3.6%.......... 2313 ............ Backoff
48 ............56 ................2 ............3.6%.......... 1524 ............ Tina Maurencova
49 ............69 ................2 ............2.9%.......... 1959 ............ Daniel Snyder
50 ............72 ................2 ............2.8%.......... 1977 ............ abnznz
51 ..........125 ................3 ............2.4%.......... 2346 ............ fra
52 ............88 ................2 ............2.3%.......... 2165 ............ dexter
53 ..........166 ................3 ............1.8%.......... 2350 ............ BerniceC
54 ..........374 ................3 ............0.8%.......... 1580 ............ Arctic Warrior

rabbitoid: I think it could be a lot higher than 50% no-winners. Think carefully how you would bet in a 3-man finish and you'll see what I mean.

I wouldn't use the word 'cheating' because the perpetrator doesn't gain anything from doing it. However I think it is bad sportmanship, ruining the game for everybody else.

It's easily done, especially in the dark ponds I find.

ClayNashvilleTn: Looks like you didn't notice that one player had only 507 points left.

As I see it, most games will come down to either 2 or 3 players left. If 3, there's a fair chance of a winner. If 2 there cannot be a winner. Is this right?

Thanks Fencer. Very useful.

Nothingness: I think games like this are wide open. I can't see anybody going for a guaranteed bonus. Although they would ensure surviving, they would probably be in last place. One way of looking at the situation is to note that there are 4 rounds left and everyone would like to be leader after 3 of them. That gives some rough parameters, but the fact remains it's anybody's game.

It's becoming fairly obvious that, with half of the established players having ratings of over 2000 or so, a rating ceiling of 2700 and individual players' ratings often varying 500 or more in the course of a week, the current ratings are far too volatile to be of much real use in ranking players.

As we get more established players either the top players list will change dramatically on a more or less daily basis or one or more players will establish a rating of 2700 or thereabouts and stop playing. Neither situation is very satisfactory. The percentage win stats are not an ideal alternative but they are easily calculated and are a lot more stable than the ratings so I intend to post them here on a regular basis. Hopefully this may encourage some players to go for a win and not just a place. I'll do the same for dark ponds when we have a bit more data.

The top 25 is currently as follows. Remember you need 2 wins to be eligible for this list.


Rank…..Played ..........Won ........…….......... Rating

..1 ..............9 ................5 ..........55.6%.......... 2113P .......... Mike UK
..2 ............20 ................6 ..........30.0%.......... 2576P .......... basplund
..3 ............80 ..............16 ..........20.0%.......... 2384 ............ furbster
..4 ..........336 ..............64 ..........19.0%.......... 2554 ............ Pedro Martinez
..5 ..........331 ..............62 ..........18.7%.......... 2683 ............ Vikings
..6 ..........261 ..............34 ..........13.0%.......... 2252 ............ Maxxina
..7 ............16 ................2 ..........12.5%.......... 2107P .......... NOT a floosie
..8 ..........259 ..............30 ..........11.6%.......... 2662 ............ BIG BAD WOLF
..9 ............18 ................2 ..........11.1%.......... 2250P .......... TIGER0005
10 ..........122 ..............13 ..........10.7%.......... 2183 ............ rabbitoid
11 ............96 ..............10 ..........10.4%.......... 2168 ............ Flake
12 ..........107 ..............11 ..........10.3%.......... 2193 ............ Czuch Chuckers
13 ............39 ................4 ..........10.3%.......... 2533 ............ zockerdotcom
14 ............61 ................6 ............9.8%.......... 2301 ............ Erinity
15 ............31 ................3 ............9.7%.......... 1970 ............ Sinay
16 ............52 ................5 ............9.6%.......... 2346 ............ aissi
17 ............33 ................3 ............9.1%.......... 2228 ............ jitkasafa
18 ............78 ................7 ............9.0%.......... 2261 ............ Andre Faria
19 ............24 ................2 ............8.3%.......... 1961P .......... drgnrdr
20 ............36 ................3 ............8.3%.......... 2544 ............ Mely
21 ............25 ................2 ............8.0%.......... 2144 ............ Luisifer
22 ............25 ................2 ............8.0%.......... 2066 ............ pgt
23 ............65 ................5 ............7.7%.......... 2014 ............ Labbeda
24 ............26 ................2 ............7.7%.......... 2700 ............ Matarilevich
25 ............27 ................2 ............7.4%.......... 2202 ............ lukulus

All 45 players with 2 or more wins on the winners list are included. There are only 7 unestablished players on the list. So their removal doesn't change the overall picture. My point is that many of the players with well below average win rates have high ratings, which I find odd.

Now that we have Pond ratings I thought it would be interesting to compare them to the BBW percentage win method. The following table is for regular ponds only and includes all players with at least 2 wins. Surprizingly I think, there doesn't seem to be any correlation with ratings at all.


Played ..........Won .......... %.......... Rating
....7 ................4 .......... 57.1.......... 2410 .......... Mike UK
..19 ................5 .......... 26.3.......... 2451 .......... basplund
..77 ..............16 .......... 20.8.......... 2415 .......... furbster
301 ..............58 .......... 19.3.......... 2682 .......... Vikings
306 ..............57 .......... 18.6.......... 2255 .......... Pedro Martinez
252 ..............34 .......... 13.5.......... 2409 .......... Maxxina
..15 ................2 .......... 13.3.......... 2208 .......... NOT a floosie
..91 ..............10 .......... 11.0.......... 2147 .......... Flake
121 ..............13 .......... 10.7.......... 2211 .......... rabbitoid
104 ..............11 .......... 10.6.......... 2110 .......... Czuch Chuckers
..39 ................4 .......... 10.3.......... 2533 .......... zockerdotcom
246 ..............25 .......... 10.2.......... 2230 .......... BIG BAD WOLF
..31 ................3 ............ 9.7.......... 1970 .......... Sinay
..52 ................5 ............ 9.6.......... 2346 .......... aissi
..76 ................7 ............ 9.2.......... 2213 .......... Andre Faria
..33 ................3 ............ 9.1.......... 2228 .......... jitkasafa
..23 ................2 ............ 8.7.......... 1789 .......... pgt
..58 ................5 ............ 8.6.......... 2210 .......... Erinity
..36 ................3 ............ 8.3.......... 2544 .......... Mely
..24 ................2 ............ 8.3.......... 2355 .......... lukulus
..24 ................2 ............ 8.3.......... 1961 .......... drgnrdr
..24 ................2 ............ 8.3.......... 1953 .......... Luisifer
..65 ................5 ............ 7.7.......... 2014 .......... Labbeda
..44 ................3 ............ 6.8.......... 2334 .......... Jason
..59 ................4 ............ 6.8.......... 1870 .......... Jofaserimon
122 ................8 ............ 6.6.......... 2204 .......... Monica
..80 ................5 ............ 6.3.......... 2289 .......... kitti
..32 ................2 ............ 6.3.......... 2069 .......... hyncaba
253 ..............15 ............ 5.9.......... 2369 .......... tonyh
110 ................6 ............ 5.5.......... 2163 .......... Hannelore
..42 ................2 ............ 4.8.......... 2088 .......... alexlee
128 ................6 ............ 4.7.......... 2460 .......... Pbarb2
..43 ................2 ............ 4.7.......... 2102 .......... ScarletRose
..47 ................2 ............ 4.3.......... 1851 .......... Tina Maurencova
142 ................6 ............ 4.2.......... 2093 .......... Mach Machovic
..77 ................3 ............ 3.9.......... 1418 .......... macik
..52 ................2 ............ 3.8.......... 2278 .......... Backoff
..79 ................3 ............ 3.8.......... 2240 .......... grenv
..86 ................3 ............ 3.5.......... 2247 .......... Bry
..66 ................2 ............ 3.0.......... 2033 .......... Daniel Snyder
113 ................3 ............ 2.7.......... 2169 .......... Nothingness
..78 ................2 ............ 2.6.......... 2261 .......... dexter
123 ................3 ............ 2.4.......... 2370 .......... fra
157 ................3 ............ 1.9.......... 2518 .......... BerniceC
322 ................3 ............ 0.9.......... 2017 .......... Arctic Warrior

Where ponds are listed on profiles,gamesheets etc would it be possible to include the dark/regular indicator as on the sign-up list?

Fencer: OK. Thanks.

How exactly do dark ponds work? Is it just the details of the players which are hidden or are bids, points left etc hidden too? That's what I would call a NIGHTmare.

Pedro Martínez: Thanks Pedro

Clay:They are negotiable from around $100 per hour!

6 finished ponds, 4 top 5 for 67%

1st:3 (50%)
3rd:1

furbster: me three

Yes that's right, but with 11 being a safe bid, it makes no sense to bid higher than 511 which means going for the bonus is a very risky strategy.

BIG BAD WOLF: I think he must have had 671 left. His autobid was eleven hundred or so I think which would have been knocked down to 671, leaving him with the 500 bonus. Makes sense to me.