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Assunto: I say each and everyone is best at something..
why is it men have to be so gosh darn competitive on who is the best?? In this case.. it isn't earning anything .. it doesn't pay the bills.. ??? So why sit and analyze this.. ?? LMCAO!!
Marfitalu: I think that this list is the best way of determining the best player on BK. But I also think that 11 games is not enough for that purpose. Someone can be very strong at checkers/chess ant its variants, and being a disaster in the others.
Maybe 20 games minimum to determine the best player...
Assunto: Re: Where am I? Oh, I'm here.Oops, sorry...
"i assumed that i was on the GCB till i just read that i was on the BKB"
Perhaps the boards could have different colours for the background to the messages. That will help people know when they're not on the general chat board.
Modificado por playBunny (26. Outubro 2005, 08:10:50)
Marfitalu: It's an interesting question.
Any qualification has to include a range of games. A player specialising in one area cannot be the best all-round player by definition. (Though this leads to the idea of best players within the different categories - the best chess, checkers, line games, gammons, boats and pond players).
BKR is of no use in judging because a BKR in one game is incomparable with any other. (The Top 50 Average BKR list is practically meaningless). Using the standard deviation of BKRs would be possible but wouldn't be readily understandable to many people. (Try explaining it in one simple sentence).
Ranking is of some use but a rank of 22 in a field of 52 players is hardly special. This suggests relative position - a player's score for a game would be the percentage of the playing population below them in rank. Only the rankings of established players should be considered. It may even be prudent to only count those with, say, 50 matches under their belt.
The best all-rounder has to have played games in all categories (or maybe all but one) and I would suggest that the top three/four/five percentages be taken from a category. This would allow the evaluation to concentrate on a person's strengths, eg their 5 best chesses scores, their 3 best checkers, 5 lines, 3 gammons, etc.
All these scores (percentages) would be summed and averaged giving the player an overall score.
I haven't looked at many player's finished games lists but Pedro Martínez strikes me as a strong contender. He has only one ranking not within the top 100! and plenty of rankings within the top 20. In chess he's got a 1, a 4, 6, 10 and 11; in checkers he's got a 2, 3 and 4; in gammons he's got 16, 17 and 25 (a bit more work there Pedro, lol). Line games give him 6, 9, 9, 9 and 11; in boats it's 1, 6 and 10 and in miscellaneous he's got 3, 5, 7, 11 and 14. All very impressive.
Those are raw rankings. I haven't converted any of them to percentages (too much work, lol - perhaps you can do it Pedro?), so maybe some of those rankings aren't as valuable as might seem but it's got to be a high overall score.
Another strong contender is oliottavio. He's very strong in chess but under-represented in checkers (only two variants played) and weaker in backgammon. Like Pedro he's got plenty of top 20 rankings.
Another possibility is Matarilevich. He's the top man in ponds, strong in chess, only two variants of checkers (and that's why dropping one category should be allowed), but weak in backgammon and boats.
Well just taking the % won is not a very good indication in itself since someone might be very good at a few games winning 600+, but only losing 20 or so - giving them a very good win percentage.
Finished games is not really a good indication since that just means the person has more time to play games.
Tournament wins can be a little tricky because it is hard to compare my "5 player" tournaments with tournaments which have 20+ players in them. (meaning it is easier to get more tournament wins playing tournaments with less players)
The extablished BKR is all games and the to 50 average for at least 11 different types of games can also not really show the whole story. Tak me for example, i was in the top 50 for average BKR's for awhile, but decided to go after the goal of having an established rating in all the game types - which brought my average WAY down since I'm not very good at Chess & Checkers, but did bring up my total in the top 50 "sum" of all established ratings.
For me, I guess I would take players who BOTH are on the Top 50 established with 11 games+ and on the Win Rate Page to come up with some top players overall - which CaoZ seems to be on top.... but then again, most of his games came from "line" games - no chess, checkers, etc....
<NightHawk> Please drop your religious feelings on the thoughts and prayers board. I thinks it's offensive to confront everyone with them on the general brainking board.
let's all bow are head to give think to a Woman who change history Mrs.Rosa L Parks may she now and for ever rest in the arms of god and for ever be at peace..Yhank you Mrs.Rosa for changing the way people come togather and live in today world.
nobleheart: quite so. i should have thought of that, being a digital photographer. a lot of people call digital captures "images" instead of "photographs," and the activity "digital imaging" or "digital capture" instead of "photography." don't know why...Webster's dictionary defines photography as, "the art or process of producing images on a sensitized surface (as a film) by the action of radiant energy and especially light," and that applies to digital...
Modificado por Bernice (24. Outubro 2005, 09:16:27)
plaintiger: "picture" would be better (since not all of them are photos). thats why they are called icons LOLOL....take DANDANDAN for instance....monkey face (is a pic) with pink lips added is an icon...a straight pic is a pic and anything else in art ROFL....not artful, just art LOLOL....sorry Dan,Art,whatever!
ignore me im having a "light moment"
***oops***
I think I was a "TAD" slow there'
TAD = TheArtfulDodger...oh my gawd!!!
kithara: ahhhhhhhh. thank you. i searched for the words "profile" and "photo" and "picture". i didn't look for "icon"...i don't think that's the best term for such images. "picture" would be better (since not all of them are photos).
is there a FAQ i'm not seeing for how to add a photo to one's profile? if there's information posted in some regular place on how to add photos to profiles and fellowships, it needs to be more obvious, because i've done it several times and every time i do it i have to ask people what the required image sizes are and, as i need to know now, where to send the images once they're resized.
this information should be available in one easily- and logically-found location, shouldn't it?
plaintiger: That's an interesting one. I've had piles of fellowship invitations that I didn't want and that said nothing in the message to me, leading me to wonder why I've been invited. I think those messages are somewhat rude in their lack. Some I delete immediately with no response (they hardly deserve it, after all). Others are still pending, even from months ago, just in case I ever decide to join the fellowship. It saves me having to apply. So I am ignoring those ones, but it's because of potential usefulness rather than rudeness. Perhaps there should be a third option: "Take a raincheck"?
just as the requestor should receive notice if when their request to join a fellowship is denied, so the invitor should receive notice if their invitation to join a fellowship, play a game, or accept a draw is declined. if the invitor is not notified in these cases, it winds up appearing that their invitation has simply been ignored, which can cause tensions between people - because it can look like rudeness on the part of the person declining the invitation. thanks...
ellieoop: Make sure your auto vacation is on [check the Settings / Calendar page], then all your games using the vacation are safe until you run out of vacation days. Beware, this doesn't apply on games with a green or red dot which means "no vacation used".
Modificado por ellieoop (23. Outubro 2005, 18:59:17)
with the hurricane hitting us late tonight into tomorrow, we probably will lose power, so how does the auto vacation work, should i take vacation days and if i don't take enough will that kick in for a few days or just one day, and should i not take vacation days and just rely on auto vacation.
now that i wrote all this i'm wondering if it explains it good under vacations, just in case, i'll leave this, and g/l to all of us in it's path.