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21. Maio 2004, 17:08:50
harley 
mrloupcity, I thought we were answering your question.

21. Maio 2004, 16:34:36
DeaD man WalkiN 
Assunto: Sorry harley
guess I will just go back to my corner and keep my mouth shut. I see enought fighting going on here to start up anything more. So later everyone. If you care to find out what I was asking feel free to send me a messare to my box...
:o{P``````

21. Maio 2004, 15:35:22
Czuch 
Assunto: Re:
Thanks Bumble... I guess I never did read the rules before :)

LOL @ Harley, This discussion should move to the Backgammon board...Then posts again on the subject... Cracked me up!...

21. Maio 2004, 15:25:13
bumble 
That's it, harley. You must use the higher of the two if you can.

21. Maio 2004, 15:24:24
harley 
So the rule not supported here is that a player should use the higher number, if either dice can be used, but not both..?

21. Maio 2004, 15:22:08
harley 
I still don't know that rule properly. I've probably broken it a few dozen times at least without realising. I know theres more information about it at the backgammon board, this discussion should move over there really.

21. Maio 2004, 15:21:21
bumble 
A player must use both numbers of a roll if this is legally possible (or all four numbers of a double). When only one number can be played, the player must play that number. Or if either number can be played but not both, the player must play the larger one. When neither number can be used, the player loses his turn. In the case of doubles, when all four numbers cannot be played, the player must play as many numbers as he can.

21. Maio 2004, 15:18:12
Czuch 
Assunto: Re: Just to make sure
I am not familiar with that rule....what does it state?
Thanks :)

21. Maio 2004, 15:11:28
lovelysharon 
Assunto: Re: Just to make sure
the dice here do not support one of the basic rules in backgammon about use of the dice when only one can be moved... some people consider it cheating.. others consider it legal because this site supports it... i try to play according to the rules...

21. Maio 2004, 15:05:14
Czuch 
Assunto: Re: Just to make sure
I dont get the cheating question iou...
There is no way to cheat in backgammon, as there are no moves 'in poor taste" as Sharon contends...

What am I missing here?

Are you trying to say that "swapping the dice" is somehow cheating or in poor taste?

21. Maio 2004, 14:49:44
Stevie 
This time it makes a change, they are also a Rook now, so they can no longer say its a member privaledge to get better die. LMAO

21. Maio 2004, 14:45:14
Stevie 
Lets hope thats a good enough answer for them anyway

21. Maio 2004, 14:41:16
Fencer 
I've commented this ridiculous issue many times and I'm not going to do it again.

21. Maio 2004, 14:40:24
Stevie 
Assunto: Re: FENCER
I think its only Fencer they will listen to though

21. Maio 2004, 14:35:07
harley 
Assunto: Re: FENCER
Steve, I don't know how many times a day I get accused of this! It is impossible to change the dice at backgammon, they are completely random and theres no way to alter that.

21. Maio 2004, 14:28:03
lovelysharon 
Assunto: Re: Just to make sure
if you were able to move the 6 and moved the 3 instead .. than that move would be in poor taste.... but since there was no move available for the 6 then only thing you could do is move the 3 .. which is a legal move...

21. Maio 2004, 14:25:17
Stevie 
Assunto: FENCER
I need you to inform the players here that there is no way that I can cheat by arranging the dice to roll what I need in backgammon.
I am fed up with one going on and on about me cheating

21. Maio 2004, 11:25:30
bumble 
Thanks, Fencer...now about those 40 games that timed-out. Do you want to get the numbers from my message box?
And I assume my membership time will be extended accordingly?

21. Maio 2004, 11:19:50
Fencer 
bumble: Here ya go.
I wonder how you managed to insert vacation days with 0000 year ... ;-)

21. Maio 2004, 09:09:42
DeaD man WalkiN 
Assunto: Just to make sure
I understand this right. In 1 of my games I have all but 2 of my men in home. My last two are close but on same spot. I roll a 3-6. I could have moves the 3 with 1 of my men in home but then would not have been able to move the 6 cause my oppent has that spot covered. If I would have done it that way it would have been said that I was cheating for not using both dice right? If that is so then I'm glad I did not do it that way...

20. Maio 2004, 11:36:07
bumble 
Assunto: Apologies
I apologise to the following members of whom whose games I've timed out due to circumstances beyond my control.
These games will be reinstated one day and the tournaments may progress normally.

Erika, munwest, gasper, Antje, sissie44, Stinger, Stingers Girl, zetes, myfanwy, DesertStarr, BBW, StarOfDarkness, rhiannon, Watson, Ophelia, TIGER0005, Merrily Watkins, harley, pawnme, Nightstorm, Molly, cattallac1962, WizardII, NOT a floosie, faith, loggerhead, mrbugs001, Goonerg, Stratman71, DrRobinson, Goldame.

20. Maio 2004, 11:12:55
bumble 
Golden Maharajah? Hah! I'm the first BrainGhost. I can go everywhere and see everything but I can do naff all!

20. Maio 2004, 10:58:30
red dragon 
Perhaps the configuration of bumble's Golden Maharajah symbol is conflicting with something? LOL

20. Maio 2004, 10:04:06
Fencer 
I don't know what is wrong. It is under an investigation. Like many other things.

20. Maio 2004, 09:50:49
bumble 
Assunto: Fencer
Is there any chance you could sort out my account today? I have 145 games to move in and I can't and, as you know, I haven't been able to for over a week. This has resulted in my timing-out in 36 games - which I want reinstated.

It's really of no interest to me that everything in my account in BK2 is fine. There's never anyone there when I'm there. Maybe I should invite a few people over?

20. Maio 2004, 01:35:30
Artful Dodger 
Assunto: BK friends
You all know I was a direct victim of ChiefKM's (Purple GZ) manipulations and internet fraud. I continue to be a victim of Purple through the spreading of more lies. But with Usurper, it is a very different story. If anyone has a reason to hold a grudge againts Usurper, it would be me. However, I have been in contact with him since his return and consider him a close BK friend. I believe everything he says on his profile and my trust in him, and my friendship with him, has been fully restored. Welcome back Usurper.

AD

20. Maio 2004, 01:17:47
MadMonkey 
Assunto: Usurper
As many of you would have seen Usurper (Greg) is now back using his old i.d.
As he can not post on boards being a pawn, he has asked me to post for him.
To all of his old friends and game players, please would you spare a minute to read Usupers Profile

19. Maio 2004, 15:07:43
Stevie 
Maybe members would use the bank if they had full facilities like everyone else

19. Maio 2004, 14:59:35
Backoff 
lol I need to make a withdraw. send cash to backoff, 123 main........

19. Maio 2004, 14:58:20
MadMonkey 
LOL - may need them at the end of June :o(

19. Maio 2004, 14:49:01
Fencer 
Your credit limit is 1000 Brains. How you use them is up to you :-D

19. Maio 2004, 14:47:38
MadMonkey 
Great - whats my Credit Limit ROFL
oh, and can a have non-returnable loan as well :o)

19. Maio 2004, 14:31:52
harley 
BK credit card :oD

19. Maio 2004, 14:28:54
Backoff 
HTTPS isn't really needed here, unless you open a savings and loan branch of BK

19. Maio 2004, 10:33:38
MadMonkey 
Assunto: Re: SSL option?
Personally i would say its not realy worth it Fencer. With all the copy/pasting that goes on and people allowing others to access there accounts here, is it really worth it ?
Although saying that, $199 spread over all the Rook members is less than a dollar a year.

19. Maio 2004, 10:03:01
Fencer 
Assunto: SSL option?
Bernice's question brings up another topic, related to a security and privacy. The point is that your private data are mostly vulnerable not here on our servers but on the way from your computer to us. HTTP is not a secure protocol and it is possible [I don't say it's really happening but technically it is possible] to grab the data somewhere in the middle [proxy server, ISP] and read them.
Of course, there is a solution. Instead of insecure HTTP, a secure protocol [HTTPS] can be used. However, in order to do it in this way, we would need to buy a certificate which costs $199 a year [or more, I am not sure]. And somebody has to pay for it.
My question is - is it really necessary to support a secure protocol here? Would anybody use it? If so, what about to make it available only for users who pay some extra small fee as an addition to their normal membership fee?

19. Maio 2004, 03:57:18
MidnightMcMedic 
Assunto: Re: Top Ten List:
ROFLMBO

18. Maio 2004, 17:36:12
ughaibu 
Sure but GMT doesn't change so why does my clock change when it's set for GMT+9? These messages are timed at about half past one for me on this page whereas the time is only half past midnight.

18. Maio 2004, 17:29:32
Niki 
but does it still say the right time ? we go from Greenwich Mean Time to British Summer Time, an hour forward in the summer

18. Maio 2004, 17:19:17
ughaibu 
I have it set at GMT+9 but it reads BST+9 during the summer.

18. Maio 2004, 17:18:02
ughaibu 
About my clock.

18. Maio 2004, 16:40:52
Cole 
Assunto: Top Ten List:
Here now are ten things Fencer would be doing, rather than snoop through someones messages:

number 10) Eat a grape

number 9) Feed a grape to wife.

number 8) Watch a cloud change from a puppy...to a fish.

number 7) Watch the cloud change back.

number 6) Catch up with old friends.

number 5) Make new friends.

number 4) Go out to dinner with family.

number 3) Watch a movie all the way through.

number 2) Contemplate his navel.

And the number one thing Fencer would rather be doing, than reading private messages IS... drum roll please....

Anything else in the world...

18. Maio 2004, 16:29:49
coan.net 
Fencer is just like any other administrator at any busniss. Where I work, I have access to all data, plus all e-mail messages and traffic in and out of my building, plus access to anything on any computer in my building. Yet, the only time I have ever used any "power" was after a user leaves the busniss, to go in there and "transfer" the data to another user who would take over their job. Plus if someone reported a problem (lets say another user sending porn/spam/threats, that would be a case that I would go look - but other then that, like Fencer - we have no time.)

-- similar story. I use to work for a manufaturing building (build Yale/Hyster trucks), that was closing down. The manager was getting very paranoid about everything (very tense time for all workers), and even requested that he be given access to everything on the network, and to limit myself to not see the managers stuff. (I told him no, not possible) - so he started to keep all his data on his personal lap top, and I think stoped using the internal mail system for anything important. I sure was hoping he would have problems with his laptop! <evil grin>

18. Maio 2004, 09:45:05
Bernice 
thank you....that is the answer i expected :)
YOU CAN access all private messages, and if you felt there was a problem with someone you really dont need the messages sent to you as you have access :)

It is a case of "being careful what you say behind closed doors"

18. Maio 2004, 09:37:11
Fencer 
Assunto: Re: FENCER
Bernice: There is a difference between what I can do and what I really do. Some things are obvious and it's not necessary to say them explicitely. For example, all BrainKing data must be stored somewhere, right? And since the data are stored on our servers and we [Liquid and me] are the administrators, we, of course, have the full access to all data, otherwise we wouldn't be able to fix them in case of problems. This is how all web services work.
But, hey, do you really think that I have so much free time to sneak through the whole database and read your private messages? First, I never do such things in any case, I respect privacy of our users [so does Liquid]. Second, I can name 10 more important things I have to do and I really have no time for anything else. Is that clear enough?

18. Maio 2004, 09:30:37
Bernice 
Assunto: FENCER
Is it possible for you to view all my PM's to friends???

You seem to be able to access everything else, therefore I assume you can access private messages very easily????
is this correct and if so ...why havent we been told of this before???

18. Maio 2004, 08:50:55
Bernice 
Assunto: Multiple ID's
if i PAID for a 2nd account in another ID would that be allowed?????

18. Maio 2004, 03:50:26
DeaD man WalkiN 
Assunto: hope we had back up drives
with the 666 fling in the air.
:o{P``````

18. Maio 2004, 02:46:54
Cole 
OR...someone (not nameing names) thought...

'Hmmmmmm....wonder what THIS button does..'

18. Maio 2004, 02:09:19
Artful Dodger 
Scary BBW no...make that apocalyptic

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