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27. Novembro 2003, 17:50:30
coley 
hey what time and day is it over in the uk? just curious.

27. Novembro 2003, 17:00:10
noholdsbarred 
Assunto: there is a way
Simple really....
You cannot stop multiple ID's
You can provide incentive for them to behave within a code of conduct...
An enrollment fee...
Before the play for free party form a lynch mob read on...
It only needs to be a couple of Dollars...
It only needs to be paid once....
It can be later offset against other memberships should knight or rook be taken....
Since they then have something to lose "flaming" "tournament killing" become controllable and BK building expensive...
And if you can afford the ISP service/computer etc 2 bucks will not kill...

27. Novembro 2003, 16:55:11
sLaMdAnCe13 
no.

27. Novembro 2003, 16:51:19
runningwolf 
Assunto: Re:
How is it possible to Prevent Multi IDS Escpecially if someone is banned but just creates new ids and plays on I dont think there is a way to prevent Multi Ids or Is there?????????

27. Novembro 2003, 11:31:56
noholdsbarred 
Now why didnt I think of that... instead of using the BKR to play amongst my peers...
If the ratings algorythm works as I think it does then he must have built a huge pryamid for it to work... perhaps if instead he had spent the same effort studying the game of his choice to improve his skill he could have the satisfaction of earning his rating.

27. Novembro 2003, 10:54:42
Jason 
if people have to play themselves to get a high rating then they are decieving themselves . they are not as good as they would like to think they are ... ps i have noticed this with a few players ...hopefully fencer can get a way to stop it or at least catch then doing this and ban then or something in the final brainking version

27. Novembro 2003, 10:42:18
berengeria2 
By creating multiple IDs it is possible play them against one another, creating an artificially high rating for one of them. A guy on another site manufactured a 3500 chess rating this way.

27. Novembro 2003, 10:36:56
noholdsbarred 
I have no statistics but the recent discourse on identity verification suggests that spurious memberships are created for other disruptive purposes.

27. Novembro 2003, 10:27:07
ughaibu 
Assunto: Noholdsbarred
This is a very rare case (isn't it?), any repressive steps to prevent such behaviour is likely to be a case of the treatment being worse than the disease.

27. Novembro 2003, 09:21:37
noholdsbarred 
Assunto: pawn policy
Fencer
May I draw your attention to a player DEADEND..
Joined 26th signed up for tournament first 5... resigned all games today 27th...
Appears no doubt in statistics for site and (no doubt) will never be removed...
May I ask what steps you propose to prevent the quiet enjoyment of the site by others being spoilt by this conduct.

26. Novembro 2003, 14:21:24
Fencer 
Just a second :-)

26. Novembro 2003, 13:55:33
Stevie 
PS Pleeeeaassseeee ;o)

26. Novembro 2003, 13:55:16
Stevie 
Fencer, When will the lock be coming off the fellowships board? Its been a week and we proved yesterday on Gen chat that we can keep out of the flames etc :o)

26. Novembro 2003, 13:45:52
Rogue Lion 
Assunto: Re: Email and addresses
All of this multiple account business may be much to do about nothing. Abusers, suffering from split personality or not, will be delt with in standard fashion. Fencer has already addressed this issue. Back to the games!

26. Novembro 2003, 10:36:31
WhisperzQ 
Assunto: Email and addresses
I have as many email addresses as I can dream up want (as I have a domain and an email server) so this wouldn't stop me if I were that way inclined and as I do not have a static IP then the IP address wouldn't work either except during the same session.

26. Novembro 2003, 09:17:16
Jason 
i still cant see how that would work . using the ip address would be more suitable , but i like a few others have two paying members here

26. Novembro 2003, 07:34:35
Fran Gipani 
Assunto: Fencer
Would a suggestion be in order?
I have just registered as a new user, but I am a paid member as well :(
To stop the multiple log ins of trouble-makers would it not be possible to allow the use of your email address only ONCE? or even twice.
Now I know this will bring a howl from "family" users who all have the same email address, but in that case an email to a trusted employer or caretaker would enable multiple family usages.
It seems a good way to stop all the rubbish from trying to upset the rest of BrainKing...A private message on its way asking you to please close this account....LOL if that is possible without deleting this message

26. Novembro 2003, 05:31:05
Bernice 
Assunto: Re: why don't we get an answer?
Fencer....I would assume one of our newest members would be referring to Rugby UNION (as the world cup has just finished and gone to England..congrats) but then it could also be Rugby LEAGUE...Australia has just beaten England 3 - NIL in a 3 test series.

25. Novembro 2003, 16:58:58
ughaibu 
Assunto: Niki
Thanks.

25. Novembro 2003, 13:29:13
pine cracker 
Assunto: oh well this education gap
is more answer than I can stand now. my team leaves. :-)

25. Novembro 2003, 13:24:39
Fencer 
Assunto: Re: why don't we get an answer?
What rugby variation?

25. Novembro 2003, 13:23:42
split ant 
Assunto: why don't we get an answer?
just because our funny rugby variation isn't acknowledged in europe?

25. Novembro 2003, 10:30:04
Niki 
Assunto: Re: ughaibu
In short.. how about the notation on the right hand side ? I think that tells you :0)

25. Novembro 2003, 10:13:05
ughaibu 
When playing backgammon does the opponent see the board as if they were sitting on the other side or are the dice reversed so that both sides see the left dice on their left and the right on their right? In short how do we know which piece they moved first?

24. Novembro 2003, 18:26:25
Fencer 
Assunto: Re: Tournament Signup
Bill Bevins: Should be done.

24. Novembro 2003, 18:15:11
Bill Bevins 
Assunto: Tournament Signup
Fencer, I can't join a new tournament, even though I've already lost the one I'm in. I'm hoping to win a membership at this site, so can you please fix me up so that I can join a new tournament? Thanks in advance.

24. Novembro 2003, 15:15:45
harley 
wild receiver. I put offense of line on hide, as I will with you if you flame this board.

24. Novembro 2003, 13:55:56
bwildman 
Assunto: The bwildman KM Gothic Chess#1 Chistmas Bash
In honor of the KM fellowship's "adopt a pawn" program,the winner recieves a 1 year rook membership to BrainKing.com.If the winner is already a paid member,they may sponser a pawn,to become a member.Have fun,and pawns please remember to leave enough openings for the tournament. :)

24. Novembro 2003, 11:13:18
wild receiver 
Assunto: Hallucinations Anyone?
I don't see any offense of line. But I see rubbish.

24. Novembro 2003, 09:13:57
harley 
Also, any more about Gothic Inventor will be deleted now. The question has been asked and the answer is clear. Any more discussion should be done on a more appropriate board (and preferably in private! LOL)

24. Novembro 2003, 09:08:35
Fencer 
offense of line: Whoever you are, please don't create accounts only for posting. Each person can have just one account.

24. Novembro 2003, 09:08:28
Bernice 
Assunto: holy mother
"FENCER" is there no stopping this sort of rubbish????:???
what is offense of line?
could it be offensive line?

24. Novembro 2003, 08:55:28
harley 
Ok thats enough. Most of this is going anyway.

24. Novembro 2003, 08:51:23
Bernice 
Now that IS a backhanded apology....if Ive ever heard one :) ....but all that is expected :)
Thank you

24. Novembro 2003, 08:49:35
Usurper 
Excellent work, Bernice. I stand corrected and you are correct. Forgive me for combining in my mind what is written therein with Fencer's statement below and coming to a rational, just conclusion. The fault is all mine.

24. Novembro 2003, 08:45:15
Bernice 
Assunto: URSURPER ..as usual you dont read what is written
I said ...."I cannot see where there are any confirmations as to who the directors are etc..."
well that is what i can see....praps your viewing has been somewhat curtailed hehehehe.
Look at this as copy/pasted from below....please indicate to me where Fencer and Liquids names are or for that matter the "Liar" what is his name???

Your e-mail address is required for registration, and is used to send an activation code to and notify you when it is your turn to move or a similar game event occurs. Your e-mail address will not visible to anyone else on BrainKing.com except you. If you choose to give your e-mail address to your opponent, you may do so by posting a private message with your move. Otherwise, no one visiting BrainKing.com will have access to your e-mail address, not even your opponents.

BrainKing.com guarantees that all e-mails sent from us to players are for the player's benefit (usually notifying you when it is your turn in your started games). However, you can turn this option off on your Settings page to be protected against receiving any such e-mails from BrainKing.com.

Your e-mail address is never given out to third parties without your EXPLICIT permission.

Players can set up optional (not required) information about themselves in their My Profile page to inform other players about real name, country, date of birth etc. BrainKing.com will never share these information with third parties without your EXPLICIT permission.

BrainKing.com uses cookies to track your user ID as you move from page to page. This is to prevent you from having to log on repeatedly as you navigate the site. Since you already have to log on, we know who you are, so the use of cookies does not affect your privacy in any way.

All messages exchanged between you and your opponents in game pages are visible only by the particular game players. Other players can only see the game itself (board, notation, time left, ...) but all other private information (messages) are invisible to them. If you want to increase your privacy when playing a game, you can check "Private game" checkbox in game definition page. In such case, other players are unable to see game board, game notification and other game information.

If you use BrainKing.com from a public/shared computer (like at internet cafe, etc.), do not forget to click on "Logout" link and then close all browser windows when you want to finish your BrainKing.com session. This process should avoid other people to use the same computer and continue to play on BrainKing.com with your ID.

as i said....NO Liar, no Fencer, no Liquid....this is off the Privacy Policy as per below

24. Novembro 2003, 08:38:40
Usurper 
The directors are Fencer and Liquid, Bernice. Fencer's post below is very clear.

24. Novembro 2003, 08:37:04
Bernice 
Having read the privacy policy AGAIN...i cannot see where there are any confirmations as to who are the directors etc...sorry
as far as im concerned...subject closed :)

24. Novembro 2003, 08:29:43
Fencer 
Please read our Privacy Policy [the link is at the bottom of each page]. It never was broken and never will be. Nobody except me and Liquid can access the BrainKing database. It is a basic rule of each site administrator and BrainKing is not an exception.

24. Novembro 2003, 08:16:51
Bernice 
Harley....I have deleted 2 posts from here...But i would ask fencer to please keep an eye on new members...especially when they start flaming...couldnt they be banned?

24. Novembro 2003, 07:51:55
Bernice 
Assunto: Perhaps Im out of Line
I would have thought that all posts in regard to GothicInventor would have and should have been on the "Truth about the Trice" board...after all this is what it is called :)...it dont belong here.

24. Novembro 2003, 07:41:19
David S 
Assunto: Re: Internet Security
"This is not to suggest for one moment that BK would abuse its position, simply that the medium itself is insecure."

You may not have seen his post but Trice claims he could read the messages in the database, this clearly would be an abuse of the trust we put in this site.

I am aware, as most people are of the dangers inherent with use of the internet but it does not mean we should ignore it when it affects us.

24. Novembro 2003, 07:19:55
noholdsbarred 
Assunto: Internet Security
Anybody that places confidential or private information over the internet onto a server not controlled by a formally regulated organisation or system and without an appropriate level of encryption or access control, is asking for that information to appear in the public domain.
This is not to suggest for one moment that BK would abuse its position, simply that the medium itself is insecure.
Simply put... if you have something to hide, dont hide it here.
In the same way you would not discuss your love life, or office conspiracy et al where it could be overheard.
Then whether or not your messages can be overlooked becomes largely irrelevant.
Having seen some of the posts, personally I feel anyone who could sift through all that rubbish for a nugget of interest deserves a medal.

24. Novembro 2003, 02:36:17
David S 
Either it's true or not but I believe it should be dealt with. Someone who has a financial interest in this site should not make claims like that.

24. Novembro 2003, 02:19:46
DeaD man WalkiN 
Assunto: Just a fun remark lol
A M KM if u believes Ed Trice claims to have access to the database and says he can read our private messages. Then I have some swamp land in Texas that I would sure like to sell you. hehehe

24. Novembro 2003, 01:11:31
bwildman 
Of course its not true..

24. Novembro 2003, 01:11:19
David S 
With all respect to you and I do mean that, I believe it is the right of everyone on this site to know if their private messages are being read.

24. Novembro 2003, 01:09:21
coan.net 
I'm not sure why so many people believe Gothic, and I can't believe it keeps making it's way to this board after it has been requested to keep it off of this board.

24. Novembro 2003, 00:56:42
David S 
Assunto: Gothic Inventer
Ed Trice claims to have access to the database and says he can read our private messages

23. Novembro 2003, 21:14:05
Fencer 
Eriisa: I'll transfer it to someone else. Myself, probably :-)

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