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25. Agosto 2010, 01:43:56
wetware 
Assunto: Re:
Tuesday:  LOL...in general, indoor cats will outlive the outdoor ones.  Yours might be the exception.

20. Julho 2010, 04:05:56
wetware 
Assunto: Re: a talking dolphin
Jim Dandy:    "Whatever..."    LOL!!

20. Junho 2010, 17:12:00
wetware 
Assunto: Tick removal
I haven't tried this, but it does sound promising as there is some vet support and favorable testimonials.  I can't see why this wouldn't also work for "human" animals.    :-)

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-remove-a-tick/

19. Junho 2010, 02:36:32
wetware 
Assunto: Re:
anastasia: I really hope I'm wrong, but I've got a sickening sense that whoever did this was just practicing.

6. Março 2010, 17:38:18
wetware 
Assunto: Re: Clooney
Jim Dandy: Sure seems like there are a lot of "pig sanctuaries" out there, trying to handle the ones that got much bigger than their owners expected (or were led to believe).  Don't get me wrong: I like pigs.  But I think you need to do your research first.

30. Abril 2009, 01:40:30
wetware 
Assunto: Re: Molly is now a confirmed diabetic
Jim Dandy:  Nice site!  Thank you, Jim.  I hope that some of their recommended dietary changes will also prove to be a help to Molly.  2/3 of my girls have now switched from kibble, but for different reasons (crystals in their urine).

19. Fevereiro 2009, 01:51:06
wetware 
Assunto: Sam(antha) the Koala
Maybe some of you have already seen or heard about Sam--koala survivor of recent fires in Australia:


Aside from the staggering losses of human life and property, there were huge numbers of wild and domesticated animals and loss of habitat.

19. Fevereiro 2009, 01:07:35
wetware 
Assunto: Re:
Tuesday:  Thanks for rreminding me.  I've wanted to thank Sarah for her involvement.  I needed to hug my girls (especially my rescue kitty) when I watched and listened.

Excuse any typos in this message...tears are making it hard for me to see:


20. Janeiro 2009, 17:26:47
wetware 
Assunto: Re: But at least they TRIED to help him ..... true?
Modificado por wetware (20. Janeiro 2009, 17:27:41)
Jim Dandy:   Santa Anita a recent "hot spot":



Two more horses broke down and were euthanized over the weekend at Santa Anita, bringing the number of fatalities from racing or training to seven since the meet's traditional Dec. 26 [2008] opening.



The issue has remained heated with the ongoing controversy over the introduction the last two years of mandated synthetic tracks at Santa Anita, Del Mar and Hollywood Park.


7. Dezembro 2008, 05:17:10
wetware 
Assunto: It's cold out there!
Can hardly believe the news story I just heard on a Detroit news program.  A dog--obviously neglected by its owner--was reported being frozen to the sidewalk where it lived.  It's doing okay, and has been taken away by the local Humane Society.  (They got it loose with some warm water.)

4. Dezembro 2008, 17:06:50
wetware 
Assunto: Re: Dog Fighting
Modificado por wetware (4. Dezembro 2008, 17:10:04)

Tuesday:  I contributed here today: https://secure.hsus.org/01/acf



It's a dedicated fund within the Humane Society of the United States, earmarked for a reward program for reporting animal fighting.



Such reports appear in news stories such as this one from the Chicago Tribune: Reward up to $5,000 for dogfighting tips prompted by Englewood raid


3. Dezembro 2008, 13:28:28
wetware 
Assunto: Re: these poor dogs
Snoopy:  How about these poodles?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdX_OBUeHb4

23. Outubro 2008, 21:13:02
wetware 
Assunto: Re: The PETA video

anastasia: Some follow-up on this story...



Company fires manager of farm where pigs abused


20. Setembro 2008, 13:20:50
wetware 
Assunto: The PETA video
I shouldn't have viewed that video while my cats were trying to have breakfast.  They all freaked out once the screaming started.  Now everybody's on edge, when I was hoping to spend a calm morning with them before our annual vet visit.

I like pigs, even more than I like some people.

19. Setembro 2008, 23:22:23
wetware 
Assunto: Our animal friends
Tough times here in Michigan, but I know many state economies are hurting.  High prices, lost jobs, home foreclosures, and among the victims are many pets--left to fend for themselves by people who can't seem to figure out what else to do.

At least one local humane society is dealing with so many animals now that they've begun waiving all usual adoption fees for adult cats.

15. Agosto 2008, 22:37:06
wetware 
Assunto: Re: wow! who would have thought THIS..oh,wait,ME!

anastasia:  I thought you'd like this L.A. Times article about one group's work with pit bulls (and especially with many of those abused by M. Vick):


Oakland couple rescues pit bulls and works to redeem breed's image


12. Julho 2008, 07:23:31
wetware 
Assunto: Re: Dog meat off Chinese menus during upcoming Beijing Olympics
srnity:  I don't know.  I'm really puzzled about getting supposed benefits from quantities of powdered organs (especially penises--what's up with that?), horns, antlers, etc., in traditional Chinese medicine.  Especially if it leads to poaching and near-extinction.

I'm coming up on my 40th anniversary of going meatless.  How time flies, eh?

12. Julho 2008, 06:53:40
wetware 
Assunto: Re: Dog meat off Chinese menus during upcoming Beijing Olympics
Jim Dandy: I wish they'd back off (perhaps even permanently, not just for the Olympics visit) from using endangered species for their "traditional" medicines.

7. Julho 2008, 23:04:29
wetware 
Assunto: Saving Michael Vick's Dogs

An article from today's Washington Post:


Saving Michael Vick's Dogs


10. Maio 2008, 05:51:45
wetware 
Assunto: Re: But at least they TRIED to help him ..... true?
Jim Dandy:  To my mind, that potentially variable meaning of "starts" won't lead to informative statistics.  FYI, I tended to take numbers presented to the Welfare and Safety of the Racehorse Summit(s).  Those strike me as the most reliable I've seen (even though they wound up having to revise some of the data).  Otherwise, I think there's just too much state-to-state variation, if the numbers aren't comparable.  I wouldn't even dare to look at data outside the U.S., other than to say that jumping races are far more deadly.

I miss chatting with one of my curling mates.  She's quite the horsewoman and loves hers dearly.  I'd love to hear her opinions on some of these matters.

10. Maio 2008, 04:56:45
wetware 
Assunto: Re: But at least they TRIED to help him ..... true?
Modificado por wetware (10. Maio 2008, 05:19:14)
Jim Dandy: I believe the actual stats are about 2 per day here in the U.S.  I'm not trying to be reactionary or alarmist--just presenting the numbers.

As far as the sources of the numbers, I think that here in the U.S. we've only got really solid stats from the following tracks (participants in the on-track injury reporting system):
Albuquerque
Aqueduct
Arlington Park
Bay Meadows
Belmont Park
Calder Race Course
Canterbury Park
Churchill Downs
Colonial Downs
Del Mar
Delaware Park
Delta Downs
Ellis Park
Emerald Downs
Evangeline Downs
Fair Grounds
Fonner Park
Golden Gate
Gulfstream Park
Hawthorne Race Course
Hollywood Park
Hoosier Park
Indiana Downs
Keeneland Racing Association
Kentucky Downs
Laurel Park
Lone Star Park
Louisiana Downs
Meadowlands
Monmouth Park
Oak Tree Racing Association
Penn National
Pimlico Race Course
Philadelphia Park
Portland Meadows
Prairie Meadows
Presque Isle Downs
Remington Park
Retama Park
Sam Houston Race Park
Santa Anita Park
Saratoga
Suffolk Downs
Thistledown
Timonium
Turfway Park
Woodbine
Woodlands
Yavapai Downs

I think I may have made a mistake in understanding what constitutes a "start".  I took that to mean each individual horse in a race, whereas the stats might apply to each individual race (no matter how many horses are in it).  The best current numbers for dirt tracks are almost exactly 2 deaths per 1,000 "starts".

Others can argue about what is rare or excessive.  I'm taking an agnostic stance for the moment, until I've got more solid information.

10. Maio 2008, 04:35:27
wetware 
Assunto: Re: But at least they TRIED to help him ..... true?
Jim Dandy:  I'd rather not debate with you as to whether such incidents are "rare", since that word is vague and we'd quickly get nowhere.

But I think a horse facing a 1/500 chance of dying as a result of a race is facing quite a risk.

8. Maio 2008, 06:16:17
wetware 
Modificado por wetware (8. Maio 2008, 06:22:09)
The Wall Street Journal ran an interesting article the day before this year's Kentucky Derby was run:
Racing's Royal Bloodline: Most racehorses today descend from a stallion named Native Dancer. Has the sport become too reliant on one set of genes?

Interesting stuff about breeding and genetics--things we've touched upon on this board in regards to dogs, etc.

The WSJ article begins as follows:

"No matter what happens in tomorrow's Kentucky Derby, one outcome is guaranteed. The winning horse will be related to Native Dancer.  All 20 horses in this year's race are descendants of this massive thoroughbred, who died in 1967."


8. Maio 2008, 05:21:46
wetware 
As far as I've been able to find out (for U.S. tracks), each single horse starting a race has between a 1/500 and 1/667 chance of being euthanized as a result of an accident of some kind during that event.

13. Abril 2008, 02:12:56
wetware 
Assunto: Good for them
Maybe they'll cancel their NoDak State Fair appearance, too.

3. Março 2008, 16:26:35
wetware 
Assunto: Dogs as cancer testers
It's fascinating stuff, and not too surprising when you consider their abilities to detect some chemicals in parts per millions quantities.  Early results suggest their detecting abilities not only for melanomas (skin), but also for bladder cancers (urine), and possibly lung cancers (breath).

23. Janeiro 2008, 20:18:07
wetware 
Assunto: News story: Dogs, cats latest victims of subprime-mortgage mess
Modificado por wetware (23. Janeiro 2008, 20:19:55)

13. Janeiro 2008, 03:34:41
wetware 
Assunto: Resize an icon image for BrainKing
An item I posted to the Computers discussion board a while ago...maybe it could help someone.


Here's what I've been using for Icon files:
http://resizepic.com/

(Don't forget to save your original files before cropping and resizing steps--I'd hate to see anybody lose any valuable images.)

To avoid unacceptable image distortion, I'd suggest either beginning with an image that's close to a multiple of 40x50, or else cropping it to approximately those relative dimensions, before you use that online tool to create a 40x50 image.

I hope you like it! I've had good results.

10. Janeiro 2008, 15:36:12
wetware 
Assunto: More toys than a Toys R Us
Yep...I know just what you mean :-)

And like you, I'm a believer in presenting them with new challenges and stimuli. (That's great for any brain!) I'm glad my cats have each other, too, during my time at work or competing. It really breaks my heart to hear about children, seniors, or pets confined to dull and lifeless surroundings.

31. Dezembro 2007, 19:53:40
wetware 
Assunto: Re: THAT is why there are so many animlas in shelters
srnity:  I thought these "mixed" breeds tended to be genetically better off.  Am I way off the mark?

6. Dezembro 2007, 15:34:00
wetware 
Assunto: Car Deer collisions
I live in the second worst state (Michigan) for motor vehicle-deer collisions.  In 2004 (the most recent year for which I could find complete stats), we had about 60,000 collisions.  In the U.S. annually, about 150 people die in such collisions.  I don't know the number of deer. 

24. Novembro 2007, 03:17:58
wetware 
Assunto: Re: we got both ttles!!
anastasia: Nice going!

28. Outubro 2007, 02:55:15
wetware 
Assunto: None of my business
but my suggestion: no 2nd date.   

11. Outubro 2007, 04:58:48
wetware 
Assunto: Yes...the links work
anastasia: My, how handsome!  And that tongue--as long as a giraffe's, I think.    :-)

11. Outubro 2007, 02:32:39
wetware 
Assunto: Re: Does anyone have any tips Update

Jim Dandy: Best of luck to both of you.  And keep us posted.


My youngest and I paid a visit to the kitty cardiologist today.  Some insurance coverage might have been helpful!  But she's really okay--nothing wrong that couldn't be explained by her heart beating at about 240 bpm when we visit the vet.  She's just an excitable girl...but a surprisingly good patient.  Now that we've both had ultrasound, we know my murmur's worse than hers.


9. Outubro 2007, 01:14:54
wetware 
Assunto: For the Poetry Forum instead?

The Karma of Cats


The judgment of cats is at hand:
how neatly God has arraigned them!


You there, my silken mistress,
how many dead birds must we put
to your credit?  And you, the rangy tomcat
with cauliflower ears and a nose
that's seen better days,
whatever became of those goldfish when
your people were gone for a week?
Oh, how the cries of field mice,
slaughtered in thousands, rise up against you!
Where will you turn?
Where will you turn?  Even now
the furnace of wrath glows hot
for vengeance against your sins.


But Lord, they cry, purring and mewing,
Lord!  with plaintive uplifted faces,
we did not know, we could not help it!
It was our nature to kill soft things,
shining things, whatever would move,
whatever ran from before us!


Well, says the Lord, you may plead
and pray, and say with some justice
that you could not help it, that it was your nature,
but the surprise is, my children,
you're no less accountable
for that!


[Gail White]


6. Outubro 2007, 02:16:13
wetware 
Assunto: Do you look like your dog?

(I can't believe this link still works after several years!)



So...do you look like your dog?        http://www.dogdaysproductions.com/lookalike01.html


5. Outubro 2007, 02:12:23
wetware 
Assunto: Re: Does anyone have any tips

Jim Dandy: Some other factors and ideas...but no guaranteed solutions, I'm sorry to say.


I've been through this (well, not quite through yet) with one of my


Some ideas I've read (and some that I've tried):


Offering various kinds of litter.  Their textures vary a great deal, and some cats sure can be fussy, can't they?  Wow...box styles vary greatly, as well.  One of my girls can't stand those enclosed ones.  Another likes the enclosed style that's entered from the top!


Cleanliness of the litter box.  One vet insists upon this.  I usually only manage cleaning once per day; some insist on doing so even more frequently than that.


Number of boxes available.  One vet suggests a formula: have (n+1) boxes in the house, where n=the number of cats you have.


One of my girls seems to lie in wait in the middle of a narrow hallway that needed to be passed to get to the usual litter box.  Like some kind of troll one planning an ambush.  I think the girl with "the problem" was sometimes just steering clear of a showdown.


Large sheets of tinfoil placed on areas where the dirty deeds have tended to happen.  (I placed these across half of my bed for a couple of months.  My newest  was peeing there!  At least she's gotten over that problem.  So my bedroom's foil bedspread won't be featured in House Beautiful; no big deal.)


If you can be stealthy and patient, have some idea when it happens, and have good aim with a water pistol, catch your little darling in the act and shoot from a bit of a distance.  I think the idea is to get him/her to associate the unpleasant spray with their activity--but not associate it with YOU being angry.  Don't be yelling...or anything worse...when this takes place.  You've already got one problem to deal with.


1. Outubro 2007, 17:16:29
wetware 
Assunto: Protection for Dummies

I don't know a thing about protection, beyond what little I've been able to see (from linked videos) and read from those of you who understand it.  So please make allowances for my naive questions...  Why do the dogs only seize the padded arm?  Were a real-life intruder to wear such an apparatus, would a trained dog "go" for that, as opposed to some other, softer and more vulnerable areas?    }:-O


1. Outubro 2007, 02:18:06
wetware 
Assunto: Good grief

Even a horse can dance better than me.


The version I saw showed 5 scores--all of them "10".  I feel safe assuming that's on a scale of 10.


22. Setembro 2007, 18:26:53
wetware 
Assunto: Re: please help save the wolves!!
Jim Dandy: Of all the animals, I think humans are the only ones of whom it can ever rightfully be said that "they ought to have known better than to do what they did".

18. Setembro 2007, 01:08:59
wetware 
Assunto: Dogs and Snake Bites--another viewpoint

Question posed to Dr. Jeff Nichol, a vet who writes a regular column for the Albuquerque Journal:


Q: Last year my friend's dog got snake-bit. I have a new puppy and we plan to hike a lot and it's already getting warm. What happens if we find a snake? What should I do if my puppy gets bit?


A. This is a subject that strikes fear into the hearts of most of us. The type of snakes you might run into has everything to do with the part of the country where you plan to hike. Coral snakes, like those found in the eastern and southern portions of the United States, are shy and mostly active at night so they are seldom a problem. Rattlesnakes, copperheads and cottonmouth water moccasins, on the other hand, are known to be more aggressive.


So which pets are at risk? Most injuries result from a curious dog playing aggressively with a snake. Bites are usually found on the head. The amount of venom injected into the pet is influenced by the size of the snake and just how mad he's gotten. But the activity of the pet after the bite is an even greater factor in recovery.


Remember the old cowboy movies when they would suck out the venom to save the patient? We have since realized that venom absorbs much too fast for this to help. More to the point, allowing the pet to be active after a bite will cause the venom to be carried to other areas of the body faster and increase the risk. So the best first aid is to control activity and to get the pet to a veterinary hospital as quickly as possible. Knowing what type of snake caused the bite is important because the antidote, called antivenin, is specific to the venom. In New Mexico, most snake bites result from pit vipers like rattlesnakes. In addition to antivenin, the doctor will also treat a snake bitten pet with intravenous fluids, antibiotics and pain management. Other problems resulting from rattlesnake bites include shock, bruising of other tissues due to poor blood clotting, tissue death at the site of the bite and a whole lot of pain.


The best defense against snake bites in pets is to keep them on a leash while hiking. As responsible pet owners, we must use common sense because very often our pets are just too goofy.


11. Setembro 2007, 21:15:54
wetware 
Assunto: Re: Cat Brushing Tip

Ewe: I would definitely clip one of the  before going for a visit to the vet.  Two of them are perfect patients, but one is not.  She's strong, and cut the doc pretty badly when being given an injection.  I'll also trim their dew claws, which can come pretty close to growing round in a circle.  Might trim them if I see them chewing on their nails, too.


But lately, there's been less need for trimming, because of a happy accident.  They finally stopped shredding my nice furniture almost completely once I brought home a rug bought on sale from Ikea.  This certainly wasn't my plan, but all three of them love sinking their claws into it--especially the underside of it for some reason.  It gets 99% of their scratching attention, and I will happily sacrifice another rug just like it next time I find them on sale.  Isn't that the craziest thing?  I keep it rolled up, with the underside out--and they're absolutely loving it to pieces...


11. Setembro 2007, 18:01:37
wetware 
Assunto: Cat Brushing Tip
Ewe: At least this works for me: one of the  doesn't much like being brushed--especially near her backside.  But if I brush her just before one of the designated feeding times, I can pretty much do whatever needs to be done--brushing, nail-clipping, etc.--because she's got just one thing on her mind--food!  She's so focused that she seems to forget just how much she dislikes what's being done to her    :-)

11. Setembro 2007, 00:33:36
wetware 
Assunto: Re: A woman holds a Sphynx cat during a local cat show in Almaty September 9, 2007

Rose: I try my best.  Plenty of brushing for my girls--one of them in particular.  Part of their food is a special hairball formula, plus they get occasional treats to help deal with that.


The one who has the worst problem is a funny eater, too.  She eats very quickly, and would be at least a kilo heavier if I didn't monitor her food intake and watch to make sure she doesn't poach from the slower eaters around here.  She'd love finding some scraps or a variety of other cat foods and snacks, but doesn't tolerate changes in her diet at all!  Even new bags of her ordinary food are sometimes enough to upset her delicate tummy...amazing.


11. Setembro 2007, 00:17:15
wetware 
Assunto: Re: A woman holds a Sphynx cat during a local cat show in Almaty September 9, 2007
Rose: But unlike my , I suppose there wouldn't be so many hairball issues...   

1. Setembro 2007, 00:46:04
wetware 
Assunto: Re: Dog In "Crate/Cage" Question
Jim Dandy: I couldn't agree more.  The  here seem to have more fun with plain boxes and paper bags than with most of their designed toys--and they've got plenty of those.  I might be their favorite plaything of all, though.

30. Agosto 2007, 00:59:38
wetware 
Assunto: Mousemobiles

I enjoyed this story from (U.S.) National Public Radio this evening, and thought some of you might, too.


"Commentator Julie Zickefoose has had many cars that have become homes to mice. She explains how to spot whether your car is desirable real estate for the furry little creatures."  [Running time is about 3 1/2 minutes]


Look for a red "Listen" icon just beneath "Signs a Mouse Has Been in Your Car":


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14033114


24. Agosto 2007, 06:46:07
wetware 
Assunto: Re: all cats will be given the option to join me in the shower

srnity: Those are some funny tales, srnity!


Mornings here require some planning: must set out cat breakfast so I can have 5 minutes free to shave at a bathroom sink.  I'm not sure why some of the girls would much rather drink what drips out of a faucet, than what they can get from their cool cat fountain.


Then I've got to race back to where breakfast is served, to make sure that the fast eaters don't start poaching from the more leisurely eater.


Ever seen some of Nicole Hollander's cartoons?  In one of her works, a news reporter informs us that scientists have finally managed to crack the secret of cat communications.  In essence, all of their vocalizations mean one of two things:


1. Everything here is mine


2. Hurry up with that dinner, will ya?


24. Agosto 2007, 05:29:47
wetware 
Assunto: Re: Bathtub Hockey

srnity: I like seeing the ferrets at local stores.


Tomorrow, there will be an experiment in wetware manor: all cats will be given the option to join me in the shower.  I'm guessing: there will be no takers.  But these girls aren't done surprising me, so who knows what may happen?  A couple of them are usually waiting for me to emerge afterward, one of them does most of her day's vocalizing at that moment--I have no idea why.  Maybe she's wanted to join me all along, and I just never realized it.  Or maybe she's telling me how brave I am to voluntarily battle the spraying water-beast...


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