Artful Dodger: I hope Palin leads a long and healthy life on this planet.I just hope she is kept a safe distance from any impactful political position

Artful Dodger: If you would feel comfortable with her as president, be my guest.I personally wouldn't want her to babysit my cats, let alone president.

Übergeek 바둑이: In my original post on this, I was aking for an opinion, not giving one :)

Artful Dodger: I must ask of Sarah, "What ideas". LOLOL

As far as Jesus being Gay. It doesn't matter. He was inclusive of all peoples including race, ethnic background. IMHO, today, that would include sexual orientation. I agree w/ Pedro. I don't think people in Jesus's time were as paranoid about homosexuality as they are today. I also doubt they had much understanding about it.

Bernice:

> Elton John says Jesus was/is gay.....any thoughts on this?

Let's say that somebody found full evidence of Jesus being gay (or married, or something not in line with traditional Christian dogma). Would that make Jesus' message any less relevant? By his message I mean not the interpretations of one particular church or another, but the actual content of the Sermon on the Mount:

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew5.htm

I am not a Christian. I don't even believe in God. But I can appreciate what Jesus was trying to teach people. Stop being rotten to one another. That is a good message, whether it comes from a gay man or not.

Bernice: I think that at the time when Jesus lived, it was definitely more “normal” to be gay than it is now. It took quite some time for people to get under the influence of those bigoted Christian beliefs.

Pedro Martínez: I feel that if he was gay, his detractors would have used that against him....Jesus never actually addressed the topic of "being gay" but then, who is to say LOL

Artful Dodger: Is there any evidence he was straight?

I personally believe that Jesus was a bit retarded and a junkie (ergotism victim). :)

Elton John says Jesus was/is gay.....any thoughts on this?

I think that how any politician would do as president could easily be determined if we asked ourselves how that person would react in a given circumstance. What would Sarah Palin do if ...

1. Iran tested and detonated a nuclear bomb.

2. Russia decided to become aggressive and retake some of its former republics such as Georgia, Adzerbaijan, etc.

3. China decided that the US dollar has lost too much value and decided to dump all the debt they hold in treasury bonds.

4. Opec became tired of the low value and instability of the USD and decided to switch its oil trading currency to the Euro.

5. Venezuela decided to entirely expel all American oil and banking companies and nationalize those industries completely.

6. The current recession is not abated and there is a massive shortfall in tax revenue for the treasury, forcing the government to cut services. Which services would she cut, and how?

7. The rising costs of healthcare and elderly care force the government to cut pensions for the elderly. (A warning that Allan Greenspan gave to the goverment about 8 years ago.)

8. Latin American countries, disillusioned with the failure of American capitalism to improve the lives of the poor, decide to form their own economic block and independent banking system, thereby cutting off the US from its most lucrative business revenue since WW II.

9. The rising drug and violence in the drug trade causes the massive violence experienced in Mexico and Central America to spill into the US.

10. There is some natural disaster like Hurricane Katrina that leaves thousands of Americans in danger.

We could go on and on with real amd imaginary threats to the US. Those 10 I listed are a few of the ones that I can pick out of the top of my head. Many of them are completely unknown to the American public, such as economic threats in Latim America, China and Opec.

I think at this point there is no candidate out there capable of handling all that. Even Barrack Obama is having a hard time with this, and in the last election he was clearly the best choice Americans were presented with (even if many Republicans disagree, Obama was the better candidate). Could Sarah Palin be the person to tackle this kind of problems? I think she is very capable in many ways, and lacks experience in others. It would be foolish to underestimate her, and ever more foolish to overestimate her.

Tuesday: I keep waiting for everyone who supports her to wake up from the dream.I reminds me of the Partridge Family episode where Keith is so taken by a girl he can't hear how badly she sings

Artful Dodger: I've seen alot of politicians,some I like some I don't, but even amongst the ones I disdain I have never in my life seen such a charicature of a politician as Palin.She tosses out phrases and talking points, but sounds like even she doesn't understand many of the words she uses,it's mind bending..She sounds like a 3rd grader reciting Shakespeare when she talks politics

Artful Dodger: And only the "right" call her a successful governor. Political savyness does not always mean intelligence.

Artful Dodger: But, she has been tested as Governor of Alaska & on 3rd grade geography. She failed both rather miserably.

but didnt banks cause the recession to start with

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8514650.stm

Tuesday: It seems like more than ever, fro England and the US especially, that people are ready to come together in the name of forget these politicians, forget politics, it seems like politicians, the career type that give themselves good health insurance and pensions and lifetime pay and garanteed raises.... as they sit there and complain about corporate fat cats??????


They are really no different from the selfish bastards that they want to regulate!

Tuesday: Maybe we should implement that 5% of food stamps be specially designated for splurge items...

Bwild: Thats what I am saying...... they want to make a law for us to be screened for drugs, well, fine let them be screened as well! Same for health insurance.... if its good enough for us, then good enough for them too,

They like their pensions, and want different for us????

There is plenty more...

Bwild: lol...recipients

Übergeek 바둑이: torture is a bad deal...but so is war and terrorism.

I suppose waterboarding had no bad consequences beyond the "few" cases it was used for. Now parents are considering waterboarding as punishment for their kids since it is not "torture":

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2010/02/09/waterboard_kids/index.html?source=rss&aim=/politics/war_room

I wonder what those who defended waterboarding have to say about this.

lol...recipiants

missouri is trying to pass a law that requires welfare receipianst to undergo drug screening...and lawmakers will have to go thru it every 2 years??
seems to me lawmakers should submit to random screenings

Artful Dodger: I was about to write that I dare say she would be, but then I deleted it because I thought nobody would argue with me anyway… lol

Czuch: I actually don't have anyone specific in mind… it just seems to me that if I take a look back at the last three elections, neither of the presidential candidates, whether Gore, Bush, Kerry, McCain or Obama, had the qualities to become a president I would respect as a competent leader of the country. If Palin gets in the White House, I will start to believe that there are some sort of three-president turns: three proficient presidents (Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton) followed by three fumbling ones (Bush Jr., Obama, Palin). And maybe it would work further into the past too…

Artful Dodger: we need them to make it so any law they pass for us, also applies to them, and any law they pass for themselves, also applies to us!

vote Green!!

Pedro Martínez: who do you have in mind?

Tuesday: To the contrary, I hope you guys will finally nominate someone competent in the primaries.