Artful Dodger: ok... But an assault riffle is built for one purpose.. battle. N' the semi automatic version of the US own preferred main arms for it's military is still a gun built for battle.

Iamon lyme: Pelosi, Reed

(V): The most important lesson Obama has taught us is that no one is responsible for anything they say or do... unless they happen to be conservative, because they are responsible for everything that happens. Of the four clowns I've seen in the news (Obama, Pelosi, Reed and Biden) the one I have the most respect for is Biden. He at least doesn't try to cover up his goofiness or make too many excuses for himself. He's mostly busy making up excuses for everyone else.

(V): Iamon lyme: "ooooOOOOoooo ... One could say the same about graduating from a conservative university.... but are they to be blamed for her saying dumb things... production team?? A HaNgOvEr????"

Chances are (given the position she has as an anchor at a major news network) that she IS a college graduate. And in light of WHO she is working for, the odds of her graduating from a liberal college is a safe bet... it would be listed on her resume. CNN panders to the left, so why would they hire conservative anchors and commentators to occupy key spots in their programming? I don't doubt there may be a few, but it would be for the purpose of not appearing biased.

I don't blame the school you went to for saying dumb things, but it was you who said she should be sent back to school. Schools are responsible for teaching, but it's the students who are responsible for what they learn. Taking what any teacher says as gospel regardless of the college or university is not wise, and it's the wisest teachers who encourage students to think for themselves.

Bwild: And some people collect guns only for the purpose of a collection (as in rare guns). If I owned a gun it would be for protection. But likely I'd go to the shooting range regularly so I could learn to shoot. And I'd take a few classes so I'd learn to care for the gun etc. And then my two buddies would convince me to join their gun club that meets here locally. One friend even makes his own bullets. And he hasn't even killed anyone!

(V): I wouldn't use a hammer or a club either. I'd use a jack. But that's not the point. One can reasonably argue that there are many purposes for owning a gun. And I don't split hairs. I'm bald.

Iamon lyme: Two more meteors were spotted yesterday over the west coast. There could have been more that were either not seen (over the ocean) or not reported... or only reported locally.

I don't know how anyone can see this as a mere coincidence. It's possible there are fragments traveling the same path as the asteroid, possibly due to some other asteroid slamming into it... and those fragments wouldn't necessarily be traveling in very close formation and proximity to the asteroid. I think scientists know this is a possibility, but don't want to be blamed for creating any unnecessary panic.

Bwild: it's difficult for a person to throw a hammer 400 yards though.... n' not the competition side of the matter.

BTW... I don't think they'd be using assault rifles... not accurate enough.

(V): ". Guns are built for killing. Hammers and clubs may have other purposes."
guns do kill WHEN FIRED BY HUMANS....but their purposes are varied. sharp shooting is an Olympic event,hunting,plinking,protection,the list goes on.
a pistol makes a good hammer in a pinch.

Artful Dodger: No. you are splitting hairs. Guns are built for killing. Hammers and clubs may have other purposes.

You wouldn't use your assault rifle as a lever for jacking up your car would you.

Iamon lyme: ooooOOOOoooo ... One could say the same about graduating from a conservative university.... but are they to be blamed for her saying dumb things... production team?? A HaNgOvEr????

... I just saw the statement not what sex they were.

"Hey, if an asteroid slammed into your home with so much force it caused you to disappear into a black hole, then yes, that would be VERY painful. And humiliating."

Not painful, death would be instantaneous.. more humiliating for the doomsday preppers, that such an asteroid could cause a black hole suggests a very dense object like a bit of a stars core...

.... I'd be watching going "Jesus" ... beats the CGI from "2012".

Artful Dodger: I saw a newsline that said "meteor not related to passing asteriod." So apparently it's just a coincidence...

... ?

~Emil du Bois-Reymond, promulgator of the maxim ignoramus et ignorabimus.The Latin maxim ignoramus et ignorabimus, meaning "we do not know and will not know", stood for a position on the limits of scientific knowledge, in the thought of the nineteenth century. It was given credibility by Emil du Bois-Reymond, a German physiologist, in his Über die Grenzen des Naturerkennens ("On the limits of our understanding of nature") of 1872.~

If I had a hammer, I'd hammer in the morning....

If I had a club, I wouldn't let girls join.

2011: 323 People lost their lives to rifles that includes assault type weapons.

But

496 people were killed by hammers and clubs.

Hint: Since the debate in the US centers around the assault rifle, why aren't they including in the debate hammers and guns???

Because they are all liars and morons. :)

(V): first waterboarded and THEN Archie'd ;)

Then a "Swirlie" for good measure!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLsFBQF8ru0

(V): Isn't that the truth! I get tired of the speeches on both sides.

(V): "The guy should be "Archie'd" for making such a dumb comment... aka sent back to school!!"

The guy was a gal, and sending her back to school wouldn't help. Chances are she graduated from a liberal university... 'nough said.

"nooo.... it causes comets."

Hey, if an asteroid slammed into your home with so much force it caused you to disappear into a black hole, then yes, that would be VERY painful. And humiliating. We are talking maybe science here, ya know...

Iamon lyme: nooo.... it causes comets.

The guy should be "Archie'd" for making such a dumb comment... aka sent back to school!!

Artful Dodger: Their greatness is a relative view. When they play on stereotyping.. then they are not so great... tabloid'ish.

I didn't listen to his speech or really read anything much about it. Speeches are speeches, UK politicians do them all the time and say nothing in the process. More is said in the ignoring of questions asked.

eg "are people going to be better off in 2 years"... reply .. "we've lowered income tax"

no yes... no no, despite figures saying no from officially recognised analysts.

Iamon lyme: they'll have to send a "probe."

Iamon lyme:

Artful Dodger: Just watch, the next news story could say something like 'Farting causes painful asteroids.'

Iamon lyme: cow farts!

(V): Ahhh, PJ media is great. BTW, did you hear any feedback on Obama's State of Confusion speech?

Artful Dodger: I guess this pjmedia lot rely on preconceived right wing hysteria alot then!!

Iamon lyme: I'm sure there are, but the trade is just not worth it. eheheheh

Artful Dodger: dude .. that line is so old... it makes you look young!!

" The politicians don't care about dead kids. Example: Chicago and Detroit."

What about Texas.. One of the worst states in the US for child deaths and abuse.

Iamon lyme: yeah. People get fired but don't kill innocent people. What a sick jerk. He's in hell now probably.

Artful Dodger: Dorner claimed his termination was unfair, then went and proved to everyone there was probably justification for his termination.

Iamon lyme: Alex is a bit of an over the top nut. That's why Morgan picked him. Ratings. Nutty people sell.

Artful Dodger: I've never even heard of the guy until V mentioned him... but now I know why V mentioned him. I should have known it meant something, but the truth is most of the time I don't care. I don't follow a story just because "It's been in the news!!" Good grief... I have nothing but time on my hands, but that doesn't mean I want to waste any of it on goofy news stories.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/12/fugitive-ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities-ap-source-says/

But "the left" is still crazy


http://pjmedia.com/andrewklavan/2013/02/10/the-truth-about-dorner-leftism-is-violence/

Iamon lyme: lol and I've never listened to jones. No one I know takes him seriously except Jesse Ventura.

from The Telegraph

"Earlier this week Morgan invited radio host Alex Jones, a gun advocate, onto his show. Mr Jones, who claims that the US government was involved in the September 11 terror attacks, repeatedly screamed at Mr Morgan and went on several incoherent rants in which he blamed "suicide pills" for gun violence."

Okay, so Morgan went out of his way to get the nuttiest guest he could find for that interview... no big surprise. So what's next for Morgan, finding someone who blames the September 11 terror attacks on aliens from outer space? If Morgan wants to conduct his program like a trashy tabloid rag, then what's the big deal? Most of the major news shows have sunk to that level anyway, so as far as prevailing standards of newscasting go he hasn't actually broken any taboos.

(V): Maybe we can work out a trade. You got any US citizens over there you don't want?

(V): "No way!!!! He's your problem now."

Aha, I knew it! But other than being an annoying prig what did he do? On what grounds is anyone saying he should be deported?

Sharon Osbourne is okay, she can stay. Howie Mandel is Canadian but I don't hold that against him, so he can stay too.

(V): It's mostly the hype from the left that's driving the gun debate. The gun lobby is simply answering the critics. There are bigger problems that the US is facing and those problems are being ignored. It's all political. The politicians don't care about dead kids. Example: Chicago and Detroit.

The Col: He did a series of 'life stories' where he gets to interview celebs on a one to one basis, aka PR stunt for the celeb... he only got religion after he started working in the US. He lied regarding the phone hacking and his involvement, wouldn't even come back to the UK to lie face to face.

He's as sincere as a fake tan.

(V): If only I believed Morgan was sincere, and his gun assault wasn't just a desperate attempt at being noticed/ratings

Iamon lyme: No way!!!! He's your problem now. We don't want him.

HA HA HA.... we tricked your tv people into signing him up, payback for the tea party!!!

lol

And the Gov'nment has been spanked over back to work schemes that are unpaid.

Not that people do not want to work... but if they are willing to work as a volunteer at a local museum for free... it does not mean they will work for Poundland for free under a scheme known as the "sector-based work academy".

... to ask a person to work 30 hours a week for six months in a "Community Action Programme" for free.

A mate of mine in the past use to get extra to take into account of his expenses for doing a degree via the OU... 20 odd years ago that was £10. It use to be part time workers on obtaining a full time job would get a lump sum based on a 50/50 split of the money the social deducted from any benefits to make the jump to full from part time easier.

... kinda covered any travelling expenses, etc till that first pay check.

(V): "Some pro gunners tried to get Piers Morgan deported. It's been in the news!!"

If Piers Morgan is the dude I think you are talking about (I think he was a judge on a talent show in the US) then I won't interfere with anyones effort to deport him.

Now... it appears to places in the UK could have deliberately processed horse meat for use in food products in the UK.

The Romanian PM is angry abattoirs in Romania have been linked to supplies of horse meat. Romanians are unhappy that horse and buggy's are banned from the roads.

... It's not the horse meat that is the real problem... but certain items given to horses that is not good for humans.

Iamon lyme: I guess you get annoyed by silly left wing just like I get annoyed by silly left and right wing stuff. Of course the 2nd was not about the right to hunt... that was just how it was back then, people hunted game... as they do still now. N' no it in some places is a necessity. People make a living out of it.

..... dude

(V): "I've seen people who treat guns as a tool.. hunting, etc"

I've heard people on the left who believe the 2nd amendment addresses the right to hunt. Seriously, is loving ridiculous rhetoric any less nutz than someone 'loving' their gun? The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with people obtaining food for their families. Granted, today it's more of a luxury than a necessity, but does anyone really believe a right to gather food for themselves (hunting) would need to be included in any list of rights?

The 1st and 2nd amendments appear first and second on the list... they were not afterthoughts. To suggest the second amendment had anything to do with a right to hunt is tantamount to assuming it addresses the right to eat... ?

It was assumed that weapons would be used for hunting, so I doubt it occured to anyone back then to include a right to obtaining groceries in the constitution.