Roberto Silva: Maybe it is more related to aaru 'cause in one of my games aaru went time out too.... ?

speachless: Game notation board makes it hard to determine anything when it keeps the same date and time for every move which would be the last move made.

Universal Eyes: If only some people played a little faster, there wouldn't be any need for Fischer's clock and we would all have more fun. Between Fischer's clock, weekend days and the ultra generous Vacation days settings playing here sometimes feels like watching paint dry.

Dice Cheater: seriously? here we are speaking about an issue and you take the chance to complain about slow playing users? come on!!!! we have here options given, that are used from players as they are, no more no less.
so tell me, if players like you that complains about opponents that only uses the options set by the game-opener would it not be better for you only to join games with "no vacation days" set to maybe 1 day or 5 hours or whatever you think is fast enough?

there are players here that enjoy playing on another way as you use to do, they enjoy playing "move by move" without having the stress to play a game fast till the end.

if i have the possibility to join 1500 games at 1 time, 'cause i'm paying for that possibility, i can't see why i should be wrong, just because i enjoy playing differently as you do!

it's very annoying, you didn't very bring any input that matters the issue of aaru, you just came in and complain about "slow playing players"... i don't see the fact... why don't you ask for a new forum board and call them "slow players on brainking"... if it helps

speachless: I think you are being too harsh on the person.
It is true, his issue is not related to aaru's problem but this board is not about aaru's problem either. It is a general board. Everybody can post an issue at their discretion.

I agree with you that the complain is not justified, but a simple pointing out of why it is so should be enough, IMHO.

ThunderGr: a little bit of temperament doesn't hit anyone - i think. and i don't think either this board is ALL about aaru. i can stand behind what i wrote 'cause i hear this complaining a lot around all boards and i just had enough for a while :-) that is how my temperament went from 0 to 50 :-) i think dice cheater is old enough to reply to my thread how he thinks he should.

speachless: I agree with you totally. This guy only plays 8 games. We as paying members take advantage of our membership and perhaps take on too many tournaments because I like to support people who take the time to set them up. I like to play fast but I cannot makes moves for every game everyday.

crosseyed:
I likewise get tired of hearing freeloaders whining.

Justaminute: Condescending attitude towards a person is hardly justified. The site would be much less without the non-paying members. Please, consider that when you express this kind of opinion.

ThunderGr:
And yet we have to read endless posts from non paying members complaining about paying members playing too slowly. Time to fight back. Personally I think they contribute very little.

Justaminute: It is understandable that when you have just 20 games allowance to play, the delay in moves gives you a harder time than when you have dozens, hundreds or thousands.
Instead of initiating a rivalry, it is best if you explain it to them and help them find games with better time-controls for their preferences.
As for the contribution, I was a non-paying member a few months back, as well.
Several of my games are against non-paying members because most paying members...do tend to move slowly for my liking, even in time-controls like 2dpm-no days off.
If people like the site, they can bring other members as well, which could either become paying members or contribute with their participation, ideas and, yes, even whining.
If paying members are being condescending instead of understanding and helpful, those people will, most likely, leave and the site loses with them leaving, as well.

Last, but not least, I think it is best to behave to non-paying members with the same respect you would want to be treated if you were a non-paying member.

ThunderGr:
I think posting to discussion boards should be a privilege of paying members only.
20 moves is an allowance for people to determine whether they want to join the site or not. If they want to spend years as non members playing only 20 moves then that is their decision. but I don’t see I should have to listen to their complaints that they are getting less than they want when they have paid nothing for it.

Justaminute: What you propose does not sound unreasonable to me. When I was a non-paying member I was wondering whether I could post to discussion boards or not, before I post my first ignorant question that some very helpful paying members bothered to answer.

The creation of a board specifically for non-paying members to post and the reservation of the others for paying members would help a lot, I think.
This way, those willing to help could check that board while those like you, that are bothered by those posts could avoid the "nuisance".

I think that complaining is as much human as possible and that it is not confined to either paying or non-paying members.
It is in anyone's discretion to misinterpret a complain if they so wish, but this does not make the interpretation right.
Complaining is a form of interaction and posting a complain in a general way *may* result in the improvement of someone's situation(or it may get them flamed, of course :P).
I am one of those that prefer even flames to stay in the non-condescending spectrum of discussion :).

ThunderGr:
I think this is a sensible proposal, 1 board that I can ignore if my blood pressure can't take it any more like the politics board.

ThunderGr: I treat everyone the same whether they are non paying members or paying members. I move as fast as I can within the time limits if not sooner. If I am losing I don't slow down and sometimes if I am losing badly I resign the game to save wasting time. Each to their own we all have other commitment in our daily lives that can mean we sometimes can't play for some reason or another.

speachless: I just read your heated rant regarding my innocent post in which I dared to question the generous nature of the BK time controls. Good Lord you're quite verbose for someone named 'speechless' (or speachless, but that's not English grammar) . I stand by my post and its tone, I simply expressed my opinion so keep your shirt on, it's easy to feel like a Ninja while sitting comfortably and feverishly typing on a keyboard with a nice cup of tea at hand. I hope you keep enjoying BK as much as I do and that you keep playing at the pace that best suits your capabilities.

Dice Cheater: i can stand behind every single word i wrote to you, and as i can see from the posts you generated after your complaining about slow players, i think there are enough people thinking similar as i do.

and btw: thx that you made me "aware" that my nickname speachless isn't english grammar - well it's because it's just a nick and didn't need to have the definition of speechless. but if you think you need to point up, go on feel free to show us your "innocent" posts again...

speachless: I'm starting to really like you, speechless . [insert cute blushing and kissing emoticon which I can't insert because I'm a tight arse who can't be bothered to pay for a full year's membership (bring back the one month spur-of-the-moment membership option, please)]

Dice Cheater:
The first round of this argument was on 4th June. Round 2 kicks off on the 15th, 11 days later.

Rather ironic when the post was about slow play.

Justaminute:

Justaminute: good point

Justaminute: I don't visit the discussion board very often, I'd rather just play the games.

Universal Eyes: yes, you're right about the time tracking, i agree totaly