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9. Noiembrie 2010, 02:53:21
Mélusine 
Subiectul: Re: Do people get any government assistance and if so, how much ?
Modificat de Mélusine (9. Noiembrie 2010, 12:44:22)
Artful Dodger: Yes, there's assistance for people who have incomes lower than 460 Euros for a single, 690 Euros for a couple, and this increases with children : example : 828 Euros for a couple with a child (under 18 years old) : it's the RSA.
But all the incomes of the family are in this amount. Example : a couple and the man earns 490 Euros, so they will receive 200 Euros but not 690 Euros.
For people who don't work (except if they are very ill), they have to look for a job and to prove it, a insertion contract is signed, and they have a personal adviser. Every 3 months, the situation of the person is studied.
People under 26 years old can't have this assistance except if they are alone with children.
Do you have the same in your country ?

9. Noiembrie 2010, 03:29:07
Mélusine 
Subiectul: Re: Do people get any government assistance and if so, how much ?
Artful Dodger: You know, I TOTALLY agree with what you say, especially when you say : " Only the most needy and unable to work would get a lifetime of help. Others would only get temporary help and then they would be charged for paying back the government ". I don't imagine myself to ask something and I work since the end of my studies (I had to pay myself) and I've always paid taxes for others !
But it's perhaps (we read it, I don't know if it's true !?), to avoid that these persons have illegal jobs, and they don't steal (or less).

9. Noiembrie 2010, 09:49:54
Mort 
Subiectul: Re: The fact is, that if you want children to grow up in poverty, single motherhood is the way. And it's also the way to guarentee the cycle of poverty continues for generations.
Artful Dodger: Absolute rubbish. Some surveys were done on self made millionaires a time back, more came from those who came from an impoverished background then those who came from normal/rich backgrounds.

10. Noiembrie 2010, 14:37:02
Mort 
Subiectul: Re: The fact is, that if you want children to grow up in poverty, single motherhood is the way. And it's also the way to guarentee the cycle of poverty continues for generations.
Artful Dodger:Like you were right about France!!

Here is some reading material for you. As Lord Sugar said, being a good entrepreneur is something you are born with, not something money can buy.

10. Noiembrie 2010, 20:25:19
Mort 
Subiectul: Re: The fact is, that if you want children to grow up in poverty, single motherhood is the way. And it's also the way to guarentee the cycle of poverty continues for generations.
Artful Dodger: If logic is your God... when are you moving to Vulcan?

11. Noiembrie 2010, 02:47:14
Bernice 
Subiectul: Re: The fact is, that if you want children to grow up in poverty, single motherhood is the way. And it's also the way to guarentee the cycle of poverty continues for generations.
Artful Dodger: now if I have of said that it would have been deleted by now lOL

11. Noiembrie 2010, 09:53:46
Mort 
Subiectul: Re: I know you live in the world of the illogical and the absurd, but I prefer rational thinking over irrationality.
Artful Dodger: Quite frankly, much of the UK would consider the American right wing "rational" thought process as illogical and irrational. Especially as it is based on 'tradition' and political bias.

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