(V): "I'd be more worried about the living ones..."

That's absurd.How many dead babies do you think are killed by abortions? Abortion IS child abuse.

Iamon lyme: Crazy. The unborn ARE living even as a zygote. By the time they get aborted, many of them get ripped from limb to limb (literally) or scaled in an acid solution. Like catching babies with pitchforks except you can't see the horror.

Iamon lyme: To worry more about living children is absurd?

so, a campaign to end abortion but lets not worry about those growing up, they feel pain and fear.

(V): "To worry more about living children is absurd?"

No, it's absurd when you imply pre-aborted babies are not alive. Using your own logic, why would you worry about the "5 kids lost each day to Child abuse" instead of the kids who are still alive?

Iamon lyme: Is it.. they can't survive without their host for 9 months. As such the mechanics are that the foetus has to 'trick' the hosts immune system to not kill it. It does not even have a nervous system to be able to feel pain for several weeks. It is as such biologically wise a potential independent being, and only when it is born independently alive.

Children are alive, so are the women who give birth to them.

Abolishing abortion will only drive it underground. Did you think of that and the consequences to the health of women? Did your moral outrage allow you to make a hypocrisy of your "big government", "freedom" and "equality" while you tell all women that they have to live by your rules!!

(V): ".. they can't survive without their host for 9 months. As such the mechanics are that the foetus has to 'trick' the hosts immune system to not kill it."

http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-baby-alien-movie.jpg

(V): "...the foetus has to 'trick' the hosts immune system to not kill it."

Not a perfect ploy if the foetus can't trick the host itself into not killing it.

Iamon lyme: I once explained to a woman on BK (no longer here) the exact procedure involved in partial birth (breech birth the baby, turn it over, jam a long needle into the base of its skull, suck out its brains, deliver the dead baby, go have coffee.

She called me a liar and never talked to me again. Sick idiot. She didn't even care enough to get her facts straight. Most pro choicers are like that: ignorant of facts.

Artful Dodger: (V) read me the feminist manifesto riot act from the 1970's. It's a bit outdated.

Abortion is big business and that means big money, so (V) can rest easy... the days of back alley abortions are a thing of the past. And all thanks to greed that argues in favor of convenience.

Iamon lyme: most abortions of the "back alley" days were done by professional medical personal. Another lie from the baby killers.

Iamon lyme: I'm sorry that you have to use the "big money" 'act'. Next time you go on about health care prices rising please remember that it is big business that runs the show through lobbying. So many Repub's taking 'bribes' so stocks can look good.

Well done on ignoring facts and using the conservative blinker system when it comes to reality.

I'm sure all the women who'd face jail/death and injury if 'you da man' gets to decide for them will appreciate you being ill informed immensely!!

... NOT.

(V): "I'm sorry that you have to use the "big money" 'act'."

I didn't have to, but since you are so fond of ragging on and on against big business and greed and such, I thought I'd get in on the 'act' too.

"..you da man.."

If you say so.

"Can you stop trying to pettifog?"

Why, am I not doing it right?

Iamon lyme: The master of pettifogging loves to complain that others do what only he does.

The knucklehead left loves to vilify the rich. But it's the rich that provide the majority of jobs in society. They are the ones that take the risks, sometimes winning and sometimes losing. We peons get the benefits of their efforts in jobs.

If the rich were to pay "their fair share" as Obama is calling for, it would generate 85 Billion more per year. Wow, a lot of money huh? Except that the US spends that amount every 8 1/2 days. And we all know that given more money, the Congress would put that money into paying down the debt right? Fat chance.

Artful Dodger:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/Nitro2k/R5iKrONSvXI/AAAAAAAAAuo/YssYRwfQl9E/s400/1002.jpg

Iamon lyme: love the chess one lol

Iamon lyme: So is this finally an admission that you can't blame the government for everything. So, as such a U turn on past stated statements that businesses are as pure as virgin snow!!

Hallelujah!! .... was it a vision from the aliens??

"..you da man.."

Thankfully you are not "da man". Well intended ideas based on ignorant concepts... or as previously known in the UK... "baby kissing for the camera" never do any good.

(V): "So is this finally an admission that you can't blame the government for everything."

Where did I say the government can be blamed for everything?

Iamon lyme: The general consensus view on this board by most conservatives is that it's ALLLL the governments fault..... A real conservative always blames the government, always blames the "libs".

It is a surprise to hear someone 'conservative' state otherwise.

So, can you tell me what we can blame on businesses from a conservative view, so I can remember for later!!

(V): "So is this finally an admission that you can't blame the government for everything."

Artful Dodger
28. June 2012, 11:08:10
Iamon lyme: All our troubles can be traced right back to the government.

So is this finally an admission that you believe AD and I are the same person? As I recall you appealed to the Mods to make us stop talking about it.

Iamon lyme: Oh great. Now I'm you again. Just when I was getting over my identity crisis.

(V): "Hallelujah!! .... was it a vision from the aliens??"

http://i.imgur.com/HCiwS.jpg

Iamon lyme: someone is very clever!

Artful Dodger: I can't take all the credit. Without (V)s insightful comments and pinpoint analysis I would have nothing to work with.

http://slacktory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/drunk-baby-I-got-your-nose.jpg

Artful Dodger: "someone is very clever!"

Oh, you mean the painting of a kid looking up at a "spaceship"! I thought it was clever too. It's in the same style as the old Norman Rockwell paintings.

Iamon lyme: that is so clever....

MissDelish: Clever??

Iamon lyme: sure it wasn't looking like this....

http://php.med.unsw.edu.au/embryology/images/d/df/Stage7.jpg

(V): "...you tell all women that they have to live by your rules!!"

That's a lot of women. Can you be more specific?

Iamon lyme: Women do have to live by "our" rules. A woman left her child unattended in her car and the child was taken away and the woman went to jail. Yeah, she broke the "rule."

Iamon lyme: Can you stop trying to pettifog?