all i know is the dice are random if I can roll them ...if somebody else does it in my absence then i'm just getting what somebody else rolled...why shouldn't i be able to roll my own dice ..??!.....i doubt i'll play anymore dice games here once mine are finished just because people walk all over my games whemn i'm not here and i don't like them rolling my dice for me...if didn't have any arms i might like it but i'm perfectly able to roll my own...if this was a real game on a real board and somebody picked up my dice and rolled them do you think i should be obligated to use them ...i don't think so...so why here..???