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31. August 2007, 21:52:42
alanback 
Subiectul: Pass when all you can do is double
There are certain situations in which autopass is not appropriate even though a player will want to pass 999 out of 1000 times.  In particular, when a player is on the bar and has the opportunity to double, the theoretical possibility of a double means that the server must give him that opportunity even though he will almost never exercise it.

At present we have two choices in this situation -- "Roll dice" and "Offer double".  If the double were not available, the server would roll the dice itself and determine whether autopass should apply.  Since the double is available, however, the player must click on "Roll dice" and then submit.

Would it be difficult to add a "Pass double" button and program the server to treat this as a situation in which no double is available?  In other words, after a player clicked "Pass double", the server would roll the dice internally, and if no move was possible, immediately pass the game back to the player's opponent.

I know the second click is not a big deal, but it would improve the smooth operation of the game interface to eliminate it when it is not necessary. 

31. August 2007, 22:29:05
Andersp 
Subiectul: Re: Pass when all you can do is double
alanback: That's a brilliant idea, my friend !

31. August 2007, 22:44:02
alanback 
Subiectul: Re: Pass when all you can do is double
Andersp:  Thanks, friend :-)

31. August 2007, 22:47:06
Andersp 
Subiectul: Re: Pass when all you can do is double

alanback: no problems ;)


tried to reply to your pm but i couldnt


31. August 2007, 23:13:27
alanback 
Subiectul: Re: Pass when all you can do is double
Andersp:  Oops, sorry, fixed now!

31. August 2007, 22:31:30
joshi tm 
Subiectul: Re: Pass when all you can do is double
alanback: Maybe it would be a better idea just to have in the settings page an AutoPass-when-all-you-can-do-is-double-checkbox.

31. August 2007, 22:43:08
alanback 
Subiectul: Re: Pass when all you can do is double
joshi tm:  Well, I was tempted to suggest that, but I don't think autopass is appropriate where the player has a perfectly legal non-pass action available to him.  I think it's just the price we pay for the cube.

1. Septembrie 2007, 01:47:26
pgt 
Subiectul: Re: Pass when all you can do is double
joshi tm: I made a similar suggestion about a year ago. Rather than a "permanent setting", I suggested a check box on the specific game which allowed something like "ignore doubles at this time, and autopass until I am in a position to actually move a piece."

1. Septembrie 2007, 02:15:40
jryden 
Subiectul: Re: Pass when all you can do is double
I'll add my support to this idea.

1. Septembrie 2007, 03:29:04
alanback 
Subiectul: Re: Pass when all you can do is double
pgt:  I think I would support pgt's suggestion too, though there would be a small chance that one might miss a desirable double that way.



11. Septembrie 2007, 23:00:14
Thad 
Subiectul: Re: Pass when all you can do is double
alanback: The thing that is so stooooooopid is that you have to roll the dice. The choices should be double and autoplay the turn. Then you wouldn't have to click twice. I know clicking twice is no big deal, but it's the dumb implementation that irritates so many players. Fixing that needs to be done.

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