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Субъект: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
Jim Dandy: I would personally google that one.(I'm a google girl,lol) Or if you have a specific breed in mind,research that one.My Mom's Peakinease LOVED cats.When I brought my kitten over to introduce them,the tried to mother hen him.I would think you would want to stay away from breeds like terriors as the cats might bring out their prey drive easily.Also talk to the people at the shelter..thats what they are there for :)
Субъект: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
anastasia: I did a little googling,my first choice would be a beagle,but the howling might drive my even more nuts than I already am Both my girls have claws,so that is a worry,but if it's a puppy they hopefully won't be intimidated
Субъект: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
Jim Dandy: I SO agree with Anastasia, that's one you definately need to research My shelter-dog LOVES animals, all animals, and people, all people (but she eats bees-lol). But she's also no puppy & was truly desperate for a "home". The shelter that she was at let me take her around on a couple occasions to "meet and greet" because I had an elderly uncaged ferret at home and wanted to make sure she'd be nice to him, and she was wonderful, he died a very content old ferret. But I also had a shelter-dog for many, many years who hunted anything & everything he could. I'd stay clear of any breed of hunting/tracking/or incredibly dominant dogs. From my experience, some small dogs are nastier than the HUGE ones (makes up for their lack of size?) Also, I really hope that your cats still have their claws, yes? That is a cat's defense, especially when it comes to a dog's teeth - I think that's what makes a dog think twice & what chance does a cat have without them with an angry dog in front of them, no matter what size? Just my opinion
Субъект: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
Jim Dandy: One more thought, if I may - being that the cats were there first should help BIG time. Even my "Duck-Killer" (and everything else) dog was tolerant of a rabbit that I had at the time who was cage-free whenever I was home, they weren't best-buds by far, but I think he knew who was there first
Субъект: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
srnity: yes on everything you said,lol!!! The one thing tho that I REALLY need to point out is the dominance thing that you mentioned,and the fact that Jim says he will be getting a puppy.....the most dominate dog as a pup may well grow up to be a bit more submissive then you would think (that is the case with my Damien) and a pup that was EXTREMELY submissive (that would be my Niki) might well grow up to surprise the crap out of you and BECOME dominate!! D was dominate as a pup,pretty laid back now..and Niki,well I picked her BECAUSE she was very submissive to Damien,which was wonderful because at that time he was still pretty dominate...as she gets older she is becoming extremely dominate..so much in fact that she is challanging D for the dom statues between the 2 of them
Maybe,Jim would consider an older or 1 or 2 years old that maybe had come from a cat family?? not all dogs are strays,alot do have a history.
Субъект: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
anastasia: My numero uno priority is that they all get along,age is only a factor in regards to my thinking it help both dog and cats grow into eachother(so to speak)I will definitely be adopting from a shelter,I would be hypocritical otherwise,but it has to be the right match,I refuse to return it once it's brought into my home.
srnity:Yes,smaller males sometimes seem to have a chip on their shoulders regarding size,but we compensate with big cars,it's a Feudian thing I think
Субъект: Re: I need to call on your experience and knowledge
anastasia: Jenn would be fine,but Molly literally goes catatonic outside my place.I think a natural environment is the best scenario.I may submit a few breeds to my guy at the humane society,if they pop up he could contact me
Субъект: Re: ..as she gets older she is becoming extremely dominate..so much in fact that she is challanging D for the dom statues between the 2 of them
anastasia: That must be a fun argument to watch Are spayed females generally more dominant than males in a group canine situation? Wow does mine get snippy with certain male dogs at parks, etc. if they don't give her her "space" sometimes But she's not like that with cats and others, maybe she knows of their ability to put their claws up?
Субъект: Re: ..as she gets older she is becoming extremely dominate..so much in fact that she is challanging D for the dom statues between the 2 of them
srnity: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?
Субъект: Re: Yes,smaller males sometimes seem to have a chip on their shoulders regarding size,but we compensate with big cars
Jim Dandy: You know where I live there are many, many women with BIG cars (trucks really) & they say it compensates for their aggressive nature Oh, and beagles are gorgeous, my neighbor has one, I LOVE her bark (howl), it's like she's singing She doesn't care for any other dogs tho (we've got lots living here), she's more a loner. She's not crazy about people either, but maybe it's just a trust issue (she's rescued), and she lets me pet her, she growls softly when I do (lol) but she lets me I think she just likes the attention she gets from the couple that has her the best - very sweet dog, lots of emotion in her
Субъект: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?
Jim Dandy: Wow, I'm definately out on a limb on that one While I'm thinking of it, I know someone who has a male "Pug" and cats too and they get along just peachy ( I think the cats were there first, maybe that's the trick to harmony, and the pug is a total sweetheart, I don't think he's got a mean bone in his body)
Субъект: Re: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?
srnity: I work with someone who is a pug nut,she has 3.I think it's a breed you either love or.......I frankly an not fond of the constant snout licking of both bull dogs and pugs,almost like they have a never ending cold LOL
Субъект: Re: ..as she gets older she is becoming extremely dominate..so much in fact that she is challanging D for the dom statues between the 2 of them
srnity: I have never owned a female dog in my adult life,spayed or otherwise,lol. I DO know tho that just because a dog shows certain things as a pup,does not mean they develope into adulthood with the same traites.The very first time Niki was introduced to Damien,she licked his mouth first thing...I thought..OH GOODIE!!!! she IS a submissive type!! well,let me tell you that Lil Miss Niki is NOT that way anymore,lol!! She is in her "teenage years" right now (she is 8 months old) and I think just like any teen,they want to test the limits with the family....I know she is testing them with me right now..she is going through her I THINK I hear my Mom calling for me but I will run the other way and keep playing anyways stage,lol.Oh curse the day that Damien hit that phase!! They both bring me such great joy tho!!
Niki also does this new thing,she bounces everywhere that she goes...like tigger,lol!! She doesn't walk,not run,not even that famous GSD trot..she bounces!! TO CUTE!!!
I have two female dogs and they are as different as night and day. My ShihTzu is a very laid back gentle little lady but has a temper when she doesn't get what she wants as fast as she thinks she should. Then I have a MinPin that is hyper and very possessive. As for getting along with cats, they are not good examples because they have never been around them. They like to chase them and play but would hurt a kitten because they play too rough. Guess they think they are like those squeaky toys I buy them. If I had gotten them and a kitten all as babies, they would have learned to get along together. I think they are like people and get a bit grumpy and hard to get along with as they get older.
Субъект: Re: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?
Jim Dandy: Hi, I had two females cats, both were rescues which I had had for years. I decided to have a dog rescue exactly the same as youre thinking of doing now, & had the exact same concerns & worries you have too as my cats were both so happy.
Well a dog came along, hes was a rough collie (like lassie only black & white) I brought him home on trial for a week to see if he would get on with my cats. I thought if it doesnt work I just simply cant have him as I didnt want to upset my cats who had been through alot previously. I desperately hoped all would be well though. Anyway, the first day or so there was alot of hissing and bushy tails from my cats & he was scared of them! He was such a big laid back dog, had been badly neglected & was in a very bad state...it took a few months to get him back in shape. He had previously lived with a cat aswell.
Thankfully they all eventually got on a treat & it was a happy family. My one cat used to snuggle up next to him!
I think the main points that really helped us, that have been mentioned in previous posts, were: 1 He was older & very laid back not boisterous in the house 2 He had lived with a cat before 3 The cats were there first
Субъект: Re: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?
Ewe: I think the "being older" would help,don't you?? Puppies are SOOOO rambuntious while growing up that even not meaning to,they may go after a cat in a way that a cat is unsure of.Again..alot goes back to pray drive,pups just want to chase things that move,ans espeacially when they hit the "teenage years"
Субъект: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no - This Is One Picture That I Just Can't Post...how horrible...
Cooked dog paws at a CXhinese restaurant. A French association of animal lovers on Monday launched a petition aimed at encouraging China to ban, by the Summer Olympics, the killing of dogs for food. (afp.com/toru yamanaka)
Субъект: Re: that's another issue I need clarified,which sex would match best with two female cats?
Ewe: Very helpful,as anastasia mentioned in a prior post,puppies can be unpredictable long term.I should be looking for a dog who has a past living with cats,reassurance too.I also think it wise to give the girls about 3 months in the new place to themselves.
Twelve-year-old German shepherd dog 'Gina' carries the leash of two-year-old Kitty during a walk with their owner (not pictured) in Hamburg February 11, 2008.
Uno, the first Beagle to win best in show at Westminster Kennel Club poses with Snoopy at Knotts Berry Farm in Buena Park, Calif., Wednesday, March 26, 2008.
A rare wild jaguar seen and photographed in the United States by hunter Warner Glenn is bayed by hounds during a hunting trip at an unknown location in southwestern New Mexico, February 20, 2006. Glenn and other members of his hunting party caught the hounds and led them away after they cornered the jaguar. The male jaguar, which weighed around 200 pounds, left the site at a slow trot unharmed. Jaguars are extremely rare in the United States, and Glenn is believed to be the only person to have encountered and photographed one in the wild. Photograph taken February 20, 2006.
One-and-a-half-year old Chihuahua dog 'Conan' prays with his owner and chief priest Joei Yoshikuni during a morning pray at the Shuri-Kannondo temple in Okinawa islands, southwestern Japan, Monday, March 24, 2008
Субъект: Re: W ...O... W ... how incredible to see :)
Jim Dandy: That is a good question - anybody know? Even tho I live in the woods, I don't hunt (or hurt) any living things (bugs included). I'll ask at work in the morn, hunters galore there, they even close the schools for the first day of the season, somebody'll know
I don't think the dog DOES know that whatever is at the end of that scet might cause them harm them...why would they? When a police K-9 is on the track of a criminal...they are not thinking,oh man,this nut job may have a gun and shot me...they just track,period
Jim Dandy: It's said they do,and I personally believe that they do,but again,if the dog is "working" or doing a job..again,the K-9 unit tracking the criminal,thats the bottom line for it..to do it's job.Hunting dogs track prey,thats their job.Thats what they were bred to do.Dogs in Georgia track and hunt down boar,even tho the wild pig could kill them,they still track and find it.
Jim Dandy: OMG,lol...my niece and I were just talking about that movie...I have heard what the ending is and I won't watch it,HA!! Can you believe I am 35 and I have never even seen that movie!??
Субъект: Matchbox 20 Won't Play Because of Some Bull
Matchbox 20 is canceling a show at Cheyenne Frontier Days which bills itself as the world's biggest outdoor rodeo, over their newfound concern for the animals involved. Did they not know what a rodeo was? Lead singer Rob Thomas and his wife, Marisol, posted this statement on the band's website: "We ask that (fans) please understand that it would be impossible for us to put ourselves in the position of making money from what we believe to be the mistreatment of animals." But get this: the band is still scheduled to perform at the North Dakota State Fair,which also includes rodeo events. They'll figure it out eventually.
Well,now that spring has FINALLY sent winter on it's way...it's time for me to make my spring time post about the baby animlas again!! I would just like to remind everyone that when you see a baby animal,and he is squacking and carrying on like a fruitloop,PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE do NOT assume that he has been abandoned/orphaned...chances are that his Mom is somewhere off on the sidelines watching the baby.Animals do not "coddle" their young as long as we think they do...they often let them venture out to experiment in the real world fairly early,but ALWAYS under a watchful eye....Unless you SEE that the mother is dead...hit on the side of the road,for example...DO NOT PICK UP THE BABIES TO HELP THEM!!! There are not to many things more heartbreaking then listening to a mother wailing for her young that has been "helped away" by some human!!!
anastasia: I've made that mistake - and learned my lesson - with baby birds that blew out of nests in thunderstorms and then the kids wound up bringing them home - not good Two questions tho - why do all groundhogs seem to be HUGE (and everywhere lately, like that arcade game where you "bop" em on the head)? And why are possums SO ugly (they really truly have a face that only their mother could love)?
Five cloned dogs, all sharing the same name: 'Toppy', a combination of the words 'tomorrow' and 'puppy', look at a ball during their exercise at Defector Dog Training Center in Incheon, west of Seoul, South Korea, Thursday, April 24, 2008. The country that created the world's first cloned canine plans to put duplicated dogs on patrol to sniff out drugs and explosives
Buddy sits on the throne as he is crowned Most Beautiful Bulldog by his owner, George DuBois, of Ankeny, Iowa, at the 29th Annual Beautiful Bulldog Contest in Des Moines, Iowa, on Monday, April 21, 2008. The competition attracts the ugliest and prettiest of bulldogs from around the midwest to represent Drake University
An albino kangaroo named Milka clings to his mother at a zoo in Tashkent, the capital of Uzbekistan, Saturday, April 26, 2008. The cub was born 3 and a half months ago, but the zoologists have not examined it to determine its sex fearing they will harm the fragile kangaroo
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