Fwiffo: Thank you for your help. And what about the Cheri assertion, please?

Spirou: c1, c2 and f1 are dead

Cheri and I are playing the game 1572768.

Would someone instruct us which stones are dead, please and if possible why.
Cheri thinks my all right hand stones are deads.
I think her c1, c2 and f1 are deads.

We have both pass our turn.

FYI, I posted this to features (not knowing this board was established) but those of you who think 5.5 is too low for Komi are correct. The standard now in Japan is 6.5, and in China, Korea, and the US (AGA as of 2005), the standard is 7.5. Komi is also usually the same for 13x13 and 9x9, not smaller (since on a small board, the first move is even more important, but the scores are lower). Hopefully this will get remedied pretty quick, and hopefully we'll be able to choose komi for those who think 7.5 is too large :) It would also be nice to have handicapped games count toward your rating (weighted appropriately) since strong players will be very difficult to topple.

Mirjam: okay, that makes sense. Is a spline curve used that takes into account a user's past and future expected win percentage, or are the points gained from defeating a stronger player awarded and then that defeat is never taken into consideration again?

onigoroshi: Yes, it does. If you are a strong player, and losing from a weakie, you'll lose more points than when losing from a master. And vice versa of course.

Fwiffo: Thanks! So, I see that handicap games are automatically not rated... which kinda sucks, as this is one of the main attractions/tenets to Go... But, perhaps in due time this can be added. Also, does the rating formula take into consideration how strong the players are who you defeat?

onigoroshi: You are even newer than the game of Go :)
Go was introduced very recently so not many players have a rating yet. Just play 25 rated games and you have a rating, but only 4 to get yourself a provisional rating.
The 3 variant (9x9, 13x13, 19x19) are considered different games, so when you have a rating in one of them you don't necessarily have a rating in the other two.

Hello everyone! I'd like to establish a rating here on BrainKing for Go!

Marfitalu: On the Go fellowship there was a discussion on that issue. (You are welcome to join.) The reason they are unrated is because that is the easiest way now. Maybe Fencer will change some things later, I do not know. I myself see the game as in a kind of testing stage, probably Fencer is glad to hear about unexpected problems and possible points of improvement (like the 'correct' komi etc.).
Go is much harder to implement than most other games although the rules are simple.

Pedro Martínez: And yet if you read closer you would see the words, PRETTY MUCH. You thunk it should be 5.5 or are you just being difficult for some reason?

DragonKing: That would be an interesting conclusion to call two or three people "we all".

Fwiffo: So do we all pretty much agree that 6.5 would be the better Komi to use? Rather than 5.5?

I would like to have a setting like in Lines in order to get bigger pawns

Same problem still with Firefox, also with older Mozilla browser. Not however with Konqueror. Also not in Firefox in the other games with similar boards like pente.

The F5 thingy didn't work and i've deleted my temporary internet files and it's still the same.

furbster: Fwiffo had the same problem in firefox, and I'm not sure if he has it fixed yet (using a different browser worked for him.)

Things to try:

Reload the page while holding down "shift" key - this forces the page to reload all the graphics again and hopefully the board graphics correctly.

If that does not work, try clearing the browsers cache - this also will remove all the graphics from the page making the browser to re-download the game board graphics.

furbster: Try to reload the game page by ctrl-f5.

I'm not sure why but i have white lines running through my boards of Go. Can anyone clarify that there supposed to be there, i'm pretty sure there not and it's quite irritating. Any reasons why it may be doing this?

http://senseis.xmp.net/?Komi

DragonKing: I'm used to 6.5 too. I believe 6.5 is used in Japan, but 7.5 in China. Maybe more experienced players than myself can clarify?

Does anyone think that perhaps a Komi of 5.5 is too low? I prefer 6.5 and I have heard some tournaments are using 7.5 but not many as of yet. I also recommend the site from the American Go Associaton and for excellent Go products such as books, sets, and software try Samarkand- the American player Janice Kim owns Samarkand.

some good other sites for learning go are:

http://senseis.xmp.net/ (a lot of stuff, structure like wikepedia)

and for them who can wanna test their skills:

http://www.goproblems.com/

To learn a little more about Go, try going through the tutorial that is listed above. (and below in the post)

http://playgo.to/interactive/

I've almost made it through the whole tutorial, and I believe I at least have a beter understanding of the game. Far from an expert, but hopefully I know enough to be able to win against other non-experts.

The game closest to Go on this site is probably Amazons...

AHA! I found the board! LOL

If you have no clue as what type of game Go is, its tough to find.

congrats, Fwiffo!

Rose: Thanks Rose :)
I will put up a few links to help beginners.

Seems only fitting to have you mod of the Go board Fwiffo!

Everyone is welcome to join the Go Fellowship.

Salkkuman created two Go tournaments:

Let's go!

Go Go Igo #1

Nice to have a Go discussion board too!

Nice work Fencer!
Thank you so much!