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12. Февраля 2013, 16:35:07
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Obama has said that "if it saves one child, it will be worth the effort"
This was in a gun control speech. But is Obama REALLY concerned about the life of EVEN ONE child?

...

Nowhere does State Sen. Barack Obama's greatest achievement in Springfield get attention these days. But he made it his business to take a stand on Illinois' Infant Born-Alive Protection Act. On many controversial matters, he voted "Present," but on this one bill, he led the effort to kill the measure.

That bill would have required protection for a child born alive following an unsuccessful attempt to kill it through abortion. The bill was intended to protect newborns like those cradled and comforted by Chicago nurse Jill Stanek. Nurse Stanek was horrified to learn that some premature infants born alive had been placed in a dirty laundry closet to gasp out their young lives. Jill Stanek rocked them and sang to these poor little ones as their young lives ebbed away.

Now, when State Sen. Obama killed that measure, it was a most doubtful constitutional matter. The Fourteenth Amendment was passed in 1868, shortly after President Lincoln had succeeded in freeing the slaves through his Emancipation Proclamation, and just three years after the Thirteenth Amendment formally abolished slavery throughout America.

Why would the Fourteenth Amendment be necessary? Because some states were still denying "the equal protection of the laws" to freedmen and women. This amendment stated that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Barack Obama was a teacher of constitutional law at the University of Chicago. Surely, he had read the text of one of the most important of Civil War Reconstruction Amendments.

And yet, he voted to deny equal protection of the law to infants born in the United States.

He led the fight to strip the citizenship rights of these children born in Illinois.

So, for Barack Obama, abortion through the entire nine months of pregnancy is not enough. The lives of children already born must be pursued. The license of abortion he defends would extend to the right to a dead child.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/02/losing_lincolns_legacy.html#ixzz2KhQPPTwh
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12. Февраля 2013, 16:11:23
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re:
(V): Everytime there's a mass killing the phony politicians try to dismantle the 2nd amendment. It's not gonna happen.

In Japan: At 10:15 that morning, 37-year-old former janitor Mamoru Takuma entered the school armed with a kitchen knife and began stabbing numerous school children and teachers. He killed eight children, mostly between the ages of seven and eight, and seriously wounded thirteen other children and two teachers.

Akihabara massacre: At 12:33 p.m. JST, a man hit a crowd with a truck, eventually killing three people and injuring two; he then stabbed at least 12 people using a dagger (initially reported as a survival knife[1]), killing four people and injuring eight.

Anyone can search the internet and find numerous examples of mass murders with weapons like knives, cars, trucks, axes, - you name it- !

True that a gun is easier to kill with. But so what? That's NOT the argument being put forth.

BTW, people who have been arguing FOR gun control, they have been responsible for the HUGE SURGE in gun sales across the US. More guns are being bought and sold than ever before. Not exactly what the left was hoping for. If they keep this up, more people will own guns than ever in the history of the US. People who have never shot a gun are buying one. And bullets are being sold like crazy. All thanks to the hype from the left.

So instead of limiting gun ownership the left has managed to create a situation where people are buying more guns than ever before. When they talk about banning a certain semi-automatic, that particular gun experiences record sales! Way to go lefties!!!!

And like I said, I don't own a gun. But I can knock you over with a deadly fart from ten feet.

12. Февраля 2013, 12:05:33
Mort 
Субъект: Re:Japan has more suicides than the US and they have no gun laws. So it's not about guns anyway.
Artful Dodger: Is their some relevance to such info? Suicides and murder being different things.

12. Февраля 2013, 12:01:23
Mort 
"The no thinkers don't realise that reducing the number of bullets in a magazine only means that a killer intent on mass murder will need to take more magazines with him."

More reloading slows down the killing. More chance people will escape or be capable of taking the killer down.

12. Февраля 2013, 11:59:15
Mort 
OMG...... It's like Alex Jones all over again..

Wales is part of the UK. So is Scotland and Northern Ireland... as is England.

Not sure if the channel islands are in those figures, or the Isle of Man... But seeing as they are part of the UK.... probably yes.

12. Февраля 2013, 07:23:06
Papa Zoom 
Btw I don't own a gun but I know from experience that my wife packs a powerful kick!

12. Февраля 2013, 07:22:02
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re:
(V): in a perfect world no one needs guns. But...

12. Февраля 2013, 07:21:09
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re:
Iamon lyme: exactly right. I must be smarter than I look because you say smart things and I agree with them!

12. Февраля 2013, 07:02:15
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re:
(V): "Read more via your search engine rather relying on bad thinkers."

You can't find bad thinkers using your search engine? Why, what's wrong with your search engine?

The problem we have in the US isn't so much the bad thinkers as it is the no thinkers. The no thinkers don't realise that reducing the number of bullets in a magazine only means that a killer intent on mass murder will need to take more magazines with him. It won't do anything to stop a mass murderer from waltzing into a gun free zone to do as he pleases, until someone finally shows up to stop him... but most of the time that doesn't happen, and they don't stop until they decide to kill themselves.

And if the no thinkers understood how much hot air has been coming out of Washington they would realise that global temperatures will be rapidly rising. Within a few months from now it should become noticeably warmer. I predict this warming trend will begin peaking in June and July, and by August it could become unbearably hot.

12. Февраля 2013, 06:21:12
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re:
Artful Dodger: "especially those politicians that are long-timers"

Without term limits there is always a strong motivation to do or say whatever it takes to stay in office. A lot of politicians start off with good intentions, but then are tempted to keep their cushy jobs. The same thing can happen to good teachers... tenure can become the goal instead of good teaching.

12. Февраля 2013, 06:13:52
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re:
(V): It certainly wouldn't stop a liberal from having a gun, if that's what he wanted.

As a group liberals don't exactly have a sterling track record when it comes to obeying laws they don't agree with. In principle they would comply with restrictive guns laws because this is what they want, at least for the time being... unless or until they change their minds. When it's about laws they agree with they are adamant about compliance, but with laws they don't agree with they talk about and encourage civil disobedience.

12. Февраля 2013, 06:06:04
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re:
Iamon lyme: Japan has more suicides than the US and they have no gun laws. So it's not about guns anyway. Obama claims it's about "the kids" and yet he never speaks up about the hundreds that die in crime ridden DEMOCRATIC run districts. Detroit was destroyed by the liberals. Moderate liberals are ok but the far left are enemies of all that is decent. I'd even go further and say that the far left are traitors to America.

As for the Right, MANY on the right, especially those politicians that are long-timers, are just as bad as those on the far left. They are incompetent buffoons and need to be first water-boarded, and then put in stocks.

Naked.

(And by the Right I don't mean ANY in the Tea Party)

12. Февраля 2013, 05:52:52
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re:
(V): You didn't include Wales in your stats.

AD said "...the most recent government statistics show gun crimes in England and Wales have gone from 5,209 in 1998 to 9,865 in 2012 -- an increase of 89 per cent."

You said "Of the 30,470 firearm-related deaths in the United States in 2010, 19,392 (63.6%) were suicide deaths, and 11,078 (36.4%) homicide deaths."

It's not a good comparison because not all gun crimes result in death. And it's not clear if suicides are always included in stats showing gun crimes... suicide is illegal but the 'criminal' is also the victim, so whether suicide counts as a gun crime or not is unclear. Also, if gun ownership is almost completely banned in the UK, then how do you account for there being any gun crime? Where did the guns come from and who has them?

A complete prohibition against gun ownership would mean that gun sales and ownership would be illegal instead of legal... and that's all it would mean. It can't actually stop anyone from getting and using a gun.

12. Февраля 2013, 02:29:00
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re:
(V): You'll never take the guns from US citizens without bloodshed. It won't happen.

11. Февраля 2013, 20:53:32
Mort 
USA .... 3.6 deaths per 100,000 gun related murder.
UK ... 0.04 deaths per 100,000 gun related murder.

UK
2010: 27
2009: 18
2008: 32
2007: 22
2006: 51
2005: 41
2004: 52
2003: 41
2002: 31
2001: 41
1999: 45
1998: 33

Of the 30,470 firearm-related deaths in the United States in 2010, 19,392 (63.6%) were suicide deaths, and 11,078 (36.4%) homicide deaths.

IE bad American pro gun stats are a straw-man argument.
Read more via your search engine rather relying on bad thinkers.
As shown on TV via Piers Morgan and Alex Jones who couldn't face how little actual gun murders are happening in the UK.

11. Февраля 2013, 16:52:02
Papa Zoom 
U.S. gun policies are most often compared to that of the United Kingdom's. Following the massacre at Dunblane, the UK enacted a near universal gun ban in 1998. Today the majority of police officers are not allowed to carry a firearm even while on duty, and even the UK Olympic pistol team must fly to Switzerland to practice. All the same, the most recent government statistics show gun crimes in England and Wales have gone from 5,209 in 1998 to 9,865 in 2012 -- an increase of 89 per cent.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/02/on_to_knife_control.html#ixzz2KbeRtLBR
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

10. Февраля 2013, 20:58:16
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: BTW
Chris Rock admitted that George Bush is his daddy!

10. Февраля 2013, 06:42:44
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: SopperMexican made it

10. Февраля 2013, 06:37:45
Papa Zoom 
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/215080.php



will someone answer the phone please!!!

10. Февраля 2013, 06:35:09
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: What happens when a fuel economy car and a motorcycle collide?

10. Февраля 2013, 06:31:13
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: It's finally happend

10. Февраля 2013, 01:36:46
Mort 
.... All processed meat manufacturers in the UK have been told to check their beef products for traces of horse meat, after a batch of Findus beef lasagne's turned out to be made from....

.... 100% horse meat.

Butchers across the country are seeing even bigger rises in custom.

Morrison's are advertising that all their beef is 100% British.

... unlike other stores. ;P

.... Pantomime horses thankfully have not made it into the food chain!!

9. Февраля 2013, 18:21:34
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed.
(V): If monkeys rule I'd fit right in!

9. Февраля 2013, 13:26:34
Mort 
Субъект: Re: tgif
Iamon lyme: mmmmm that reminds me that God is both male and female, and for that reason.. understanding is hard. :P

9. Февраля 2013, 13:19:34
Mort 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed.
Artful Dodger: You might wake up to a world where monkey's rule... Jay and Silent Bob style... not Planet of the Apes. lol

9. Февраля 2013, 02:09:42
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re: There's no way to disable that feature with, uh, that particular model. I've tried, so I know.
Iamon lyme:

9. Февраля 2013, 02:07:00
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re: There's no way to disable that feature with, uh, that particular model. I've tried, so I know.
(V): tgif

9. Февраля 2013, 02:00:40
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed.
(V): haha that would be fun. Wake me up in 100 years. I'd be like a cave man.

8. Февраля 2013, 22:33:51
Mort 
Субъект: Re: There's no way to disable that feature with, uh, that particular model. I've tried, so I know.
Iamon lyme: ..... you tried!!

Bad idea.... bad bad idea!! lol

8. Февраля 2013, 22:31:48
Mort 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed.
Artful Dodger: A certain amount of weight is needed, structural strength being more essential imo... or nowadays.. airbags.

" It worked for Spock. Actually, there is a science behind that idea and as I understand it, it's theoretically possible. But I'll be dead before it's perfected."

.... you could always get frozen....

8. Февраля 2013, 16:28:27
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built woman vrs a well built woman colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight woman vrs a light weight woman at the same speed.
Iamon lyme: I gotta go. I have to take out the trash, do the dishes, and vacuum. After I'm finished with that I'll ask the boss, er my wife if there's anything else I have to do. Then I'll be back.

I'll show her who's boss!

8. Февраля 2013, 16:22:14
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built woman vrs a well built woman colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight woman vrs a light weight woman at the same speed.
Iamon lyme: Yeah, I've tried. I even tried to trade her in for an updated model but that didn't work out too well for me. I sang soprano for weeks! Fortunately I'm losing my hearing and I have a strong "ignore" feature built into my brain.

8. Февраля 2013, 08:24:32
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built woman vrs a well built woman colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight woman vrs a light weight woman at the same speed.
Artful Dodger: "My wife auto corrects me too."

There's no way to disable that feature with, uh, that particular model. I've tried, so I know.

8. Февраля 2013, 04:59:11
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built ipad vrs a well built ipad colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight ipad vrs a light weight ipad at the same speed.
Iamon lyme: My wife auto corrects me too.

8. Февраля 2013, 04:57:05
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re: Teleportation through the telephone lines
Iamon lyme: I need to lose weight cuz I won't fit through the phone.

8. Февраля 2013, 04:11:33
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built ipad vrs a well built ipad colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight ipad vrs a light weight ipad at the same speed.
Artful Dodger: I had a cell phone a few years ago that auto corrected my text messages. I had to disable the auto correct feature because it would never let me type in the correct word. Ironic it, ain't it?

8. Февраля 2013, 03:14:11
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed.
Artful Dodger: "Actually, there is a science behind that idea and as I understand it, it's theoretically possible. But I'll be dead before it's perfected."

Shoot, we'll all be dead before ipads are fixed so that they won't change words in your messages.

8. Февраля 2013, 03:03:26
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed.
Artful Dodger: "Frankly I prefer telephoning"

Teleportation through the telephone lines?

8. Февраля 2013, 01:58:21
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed.
(V): But you need weight for safety as well. Frankly I prefer telephoning but I can't get it to work for me. It worked for Spock. Actually, there is a science behind that idea and as I understand it, it's theoretically possible. But I'll be dead before it's perfected.

7. Февраля 2013, 16:42:48
Mort 
Субъект: Re: It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed.
Artful Dodger: Now... cannot a car be well built and light. A gutted demolition derby car is light, yet the safety feature of the roll cage makes it safer than a SUV.

It's all a matter of how much safety is featured in the design.

7. Февраля 2013, 16:13:53
Papa Zoom 
When global warming (man made) is proven a total farce, the greeners will say that their efforts turned things around.

7. Февраля 2013, 16:12:51
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re:
Iamon lyme: I can imagine the day when I have to pay a carbon tax every time I fart.

7. Февраля 2013, 07:01:48
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re:
Artful Dodger: mmmm yes, or lightly sauteed with mushrooms in butter and garlic. But worms make me gassy, which is also troubling for scientists as there are already concerns that earthworms increase greenhouse gas emissions... eating them only exacerbates the problem.

7. Февраля 2013, 06:29:46
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re:
Iamon lyme: well worms are quite tasty fried.

7. Февраля 2013, 03:02:13
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re: death by suction
Artful Dodger: "They use this method in many abortions"

I know. I tried watching a video about how it's done and couldn't watch the whole thing. It makes me sick to my stomach. I'd rather eat worms than to see how it's done.

7. Февраля 2013, 02:56:35
Iamon lyme 
Субъект: Re:
Artful Dodger: "There are concerns that earthworms increase greenhouse gas emissions, which troubles scientists since earthworm numbers are on the rise."

Uh oh. I need to go down and check to see if my underground bunker is well fortified. Should have make the walls thicker, don't know if two feet of concrete is enough to keep them out.

7. Февраля 2013, 02:37:03
Papa Zoom 

7. Февраля 2013, 02:26:31
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re: death by suction
Iamon lyme: They use this method in many abortions and Obama approves it. He doesn't want kids shot (unless they are black and from Chicago) but is ok with babies in the womb having their arms and legs sucked off (especially if they are black and from Chicago).

7. Февраля 2013, 02:24:04
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re: BUT we all know that lighter cars contribute to more traffic deaths (and child deaths).
(V): It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed. I'd put my money on surviving in the heavier car and the two lightweight autos all would likely be killed. Just a guess. I'll have to google it. Or bing it.

7. Февраля 2013, 02:21:34
Papa Zoom 
Субъект: Re: true it's easier with a gun. But Japan has higher sucked rate without guns so guns aren't the problem.
(V): Sucked?? hahaha That cracks me up. I was using my ipad and it auto corrected my spelling. I never noticed it. I'll have to try to write suicide again tonight on the ipad and see how that happened.

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