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26. Марта 2010, 00:52:34
Mort 
Субъект: Re: Guess he didn't see the polls
Artful Dodger: I find polls that say more like the idea. I guess it depends on who, where and when it was done.

25. Марта 2010, 22:51:16
Bernice 
Субъект: Homer Simpson - the modern day Shakespeare?
can you believe that this "comic" has had as much, if not more influence on our modern day language?

It isnt any wonder that kids can't spell/speak correctly...

25. Марта 2010, 00:10:57
Mort 
A 80 billion pounds a year industry.. chocolate. Just where does the cocoa beans that makes one of our favourite treats come from. More importantly.. who harvests it?

Free market trading equating in child slavery. Yet despite rules and regs in most western countries banning the importation of goods made from slave or prison labour, most of the cocoa bean trade is tainted. Fathers, uncles, etc selling children.

All done in the name of profit and low cost products.


24. Марта 2010, 09:07:31
Mort 
Субъект: Re:Some companies have a huge monolopy BECAUSE of the government and its useless policies.
Artful Dodger: Tort reform is a must.. but I have to say, your health companies like monopolies. I guess that they have been fighting to maintain them.

Over here in the UK we have a monopolies commission to stop such things happening.

23. Марта 2010, 19:49:07
Mort 
Субъект: Re:
Artful Dodger: Well, I doubt the whole system will be overhauled. I must say though it takes guts to challenge your health companies and their lobbyists

23. Марта 2010, 08:44:38
Mort 
So.. while 40 odd million Americans go without health insurance and your health insurance companies keep upping their charges.. it's still a matter of politics?

You guys really need to get over this "socialist" thingy.

I don't get it.. your health system is a mess in that it is costing you in the USA too much, too many cases of people being turned down for treatment over silly reasons and many people are suffering due to lack of access to decent health care.

With everyone required to pay into the health system, that to me cuts down on what the current payers have to pay.

imho

23. Марта 2010, 04:45:58
Ferris Bueller 
Субъект: The Dems excluded the Republicans from crafting the Health Care bill.

Artful Dodger:  Thats not exactly true.  There were 200 Republican amendments that were included in the HC bill.  The Republicans think it will be politically expedient for all of them to vote "No" to make it look like they were not included in the process.  Maybe the public will see through this charade.


Tuesday:  the 34 Dems that voted against the bill are on the dole of the insurance companies just like almost all of the Republicans.


23. Марта 2010, 02:18:00
Vikings 
Субъект: Re:
Bernice: yes

23. Марта 2010, 01:50:38
Bernice 
Субъект: Re:
Vikings: but can they take legal action against Obama.....that is my question.

23. Марта 2010, 01:47:04
Bernice 
Субъект: Re: Tea Party Rally

23. Марта 2010, 01:47:22
Vikings 
Субъект: Re:
Bernice: states can opt out of this health care plan by invoking the 10th amendment, I believe that 8 have already and mine will if the incumbent loses in november

23. Марта 2010, 01:41:44
Bernice 
Сделано для Bernice (23. Марта 2010, 01:44:50)
I see where 10 states are considering suing Obama....can they do this?

that is on the "Health Issues"

23. Марта 2010, 01:10:39
Vikings 
Сделано для Vikings (23. Марта 2010, 01:11:33)
there is supposedly a line in the amendment that does not allow for a repeal for 25 years, but since no ones knows for sure as to what they voted for accordingly to Pelosi, we will have to wait to see

22. Марта 2010, 09:27:13
Mort 
Субъект: Re: for example
Artful Dodger: Each county here looks after the schools in it's area. Yes, the government makes policy, though the use of resources is down to the county council. In cases of children with learning problems, each school has specialist teachers.. The use of a school specifically designed for children with learning problems although open, is just one of those options available. Each child with special needs is assessed each year (at least once) to see where they need to be and what they need.

Parents are part of this system, and can have say in their children's education as well as the usual .. help learning at home through homework, etc.

22. Марта 2010, 02:30:28
Bwild 
Субъект: Re:
Artful Dodger: I hope everyone looks hard at those that voted yes, and do their best to see them never reach a political office again.

21. Марта 2010, 16:53:42
Mort 
Субъект: Re: for example
Artful Dodger: How does he plan to expand Head Start, and what are the others programs?

19. Марта 2010, 18:56:34
rod03801 
Субъект: Re:
Tuesday: Strange that they are calling it "Happening Now", yet the time stamps on most of the video was October and November of 2002. Weird.

19. Марта 2010, 13:04:09
Mort 
Субъект: Re: ike I said the English were harassed tortured, murdered for just tryijg to get the word translated...why?
Tuesday: It's complicated being a person of Jewish faith. The story is when the covenant with God was made via Moses, every single Jew was present. Past, present and future.

It's like anything... a name of a faith. You be British and a Jewish person, etc. It's like being Muslim, Christian, Druid, Wiccan, Buddhist, etc.

19. Марта 2010, 08:56:55
Mort 
Субъект: Re: ike I said the English were harassed tortured, murdered for just tryijg to get the word translated...why?
Tuesday: Hitler is not the only one to use the Jews as a scapegoat. One or both of the main protestant fathers put forward the idea that the Jews were evil and needed extermination due the their involvement with Christ's crucifixion.

And yes religious wars are in name only, so are those who persecuted various Christian sects, including Christians sects who picked on other Christian sects.

19. Марта 2010, 01:01:22
Ferris Bueller 
Субъект: Textual criticism is a science and it's an exacting process.
Сделано для Ferris Bueller (19. Марта 2010, 03:53:29)
Artful Dodger:   Just as an aside note, I've noticed an interesting discrepancy.  You state that the majority scientist who study these text are on "your side".  You cite them as absolute proof of your argument.  Yet, you don't accept the findings of the vast majority of scientist who say that global warming is partially man-made. 

19. Марта 2010, 00:42:03
Vikings 
Субъект: Re: "Most deviations in the texts are grammatical or omissions." How can you possibly be so sure of this assertion with over 5K copies done by hand? In addition there was at least 75 yrs of oral before anything was written down.
Bernice: the time of day the light is available changes by 1 hour with the time change, for example sunrise is at 6:00 a.m. and sunset is at 7:00 p.m. and then the time changes and sunrise is at 7:00 a.m. and sunset is at 8:00 p.m.

18. Марта 2010, 22:51:55
Bernice 
Субъект: Re: "Most deviations in the texts are grammatical or omissions." How can you possibly be so sure of this assertion with over 5K copies done by hand? In addition there was at least 75 yrs of oral before anything was written down.
Artful Dodger: can somebody tell me please how light availability changes with daylight savings???

18. Марта 2010, 22:47:44
Mort 
Субъект: Re: Textual criticism is a science and it's an exacting process.
Artful Dodger: I agree to a degree.... that leap of understanding when you 'jump' from darkness to illumination and the stages within.... that is not definable, science cannot define God.

18. Марта 2010, 22:45:14
Mort 
Субъект: Re: ike I said the English were harassed tortured, murdered for just tryijg to get the word translated...why?
Tuesday: Because the Roman Church liked power. Seriously, it's the main religion in the west due to murder, torture, imprisonment & excommunication. 10's of millions have died thanks to people fighting over who was right in interpretation and of power. The Jews have faced several times persecution and genocide at the hands of Christians who thought they were in league with the DeViL... for just doing there job and making Christ live.

18. Марта 2010, 22:10:12
Mort 
Субъект: Re: there is not one "error" that affects a Christian doctrine.
Artful Dodger: You are right there. Doctrine and dogma are man made things. I'm sure God did not want us to go burning a sacrifice to God in order to stop bad luck.. Witch burning!!

18. Марта 2010, 22:07:38
Mort 
Субъект: Re:
Pedro Martínez: Light and dark.. more meaning then just illumination and the various ways that word can be interpreted. Some olden religions while supporting the big bang theory (but in another way) still make sense.

The establishment of time is an important point.. from when there was no time.

18. Марта 2010, 21:21:07
Ferris Bueller 
Субъект: Re: Copy errors abound although the vast majority are inconsequential

Artful Dodger:   "Most deviations in the texts are grammatical or omissions."  How can you possibly be so sure of this assertion with over 5K copies done by hand?  In addition there was at least 75 yrs of oral before anything was written down.


Tuesday:  The books that went in the Bible were "set" in 4th Century at the Counsel of Nicea by a vote of about 15-14.  Hardly a consensus for something absolutely inspired by God.


Pedro:  The Bible is worth reading for general directions on how to live a spiritual life through profound story telling.  But, IMHO, it is not an accurate historical or scientific compilation.


18. Марта 2010, 19:02:05
Bwild 
Субъект: Re:
Pedro Martínez: I agree, Pedro.

18. Марта 2010, 18:25:13
Pedro Martínez 
No book that says that night and day and evening and morning on the Earth existed earlier than the Sun, is worth reading.

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