Czuch: Blimey .. If politicians stopped taking 'bribes' there might be some actual honest.. ish government.

Czuch:i don't know, they already had him under investigation for other stuff, now everyone has abandoned him,His party shuns him like he has leprosy, the media has him guilty and the feds want him bad enough, then he's going down , fair or not.

Tuesday: What is it called when you discount someone who is a qualified candidate simply because you dont like the guy who nominated him?

BTW, I think this guy bloggo, or whatever his name is, is not going to be found guilty. In politics there are always some form of payment for everything. It doesnt have to be money, it can be clout or even a meeting can be considered "payment" of a kind.

When you are considering an appointment among many qualified people, its part of normal politics to get something in return for it... you pat my back I pat your back, who can pat your back the best?

But it doesnt mean that he waqs actually going to accept cash money from the highest bidder and give them the nomination?

Anyway, I hope the FBI has him actually accepting a true bribe and acting upon it, or else it is all circumstantial conjecture, and if they dont have him red handed taking bribe money, then I think it will just be another bad example of politics as usual!

Vikings: A very stupid power thing. We've had interpol for ages.

(V): It's a power thing

Vikings: They were not talking to each other!!!!! Where is the intelligence in that!

(V): security depts. FBI, CIA, etc... were not cooperating with each other with information, now they all answer to homeland security and information is centralized and more accessible between law enforcement agencies

Vikings: Yeah well, we've seen over here politicians make new jobs for the boys.... Half the time they are just duplicating other peoples roles and are just high paid 'front men' so that the government looks like it's doing something.

(V): It was a new cabinet after 9?11

Vikings: I think the FBI and CIA have been doing the job of defending your country's borders for years. "Homeland secretary" is just another 'title'.

Charles Martel: A 90 year old!!! what happened to retirement!!!!

Tuesday: just a guess but I think Homeland secretary is so low because it is a relatively new post

boy, imagine that, only in America,A Klan organizer 4 steps from being president, in this day and age... oh again, sorry a FORMER klan organizer..

Artful Dodger: Thats hilarious, The senate pro tempore is the 90 year old Kleagle from West Virginia, oh sorry...EX Kleagle

Artful Dodger: Somehow I don't think having anyone lower then no.6 as your pres.

Charles Martel: I saw an American on TV last night pleading for us British to come and take over the USA again. Her words were that the USA had got the democracy thing wrong and needed retraining!!

Tuesday: yeah thats what my wife says too  lol

I wonder... if Stephen Hawkings ran for president  he would probably lose  to Brad Pitt

How about judging President Obama on what he does or the results of the current events when he is president(which he may or may not be responsible for). American politics seem to be like American Idol or Dancing with the Stars, gee does he or she look good? do they talk well? do they dress nice? Well then they must be the best!!!  Funny, here in Philadelphia where I live , The manager of the baseball team ,Charlie Manuel has been constantly derided for both his accent and his speech impediments.The media ,both print and radio insinuated he must be a dope, especially after every loss.. But he shore enuff got sum smartyer after the World Series... Yay Phillies btw

Jim Dandy:

Artful Dodger: Obama speaks best when he uses a "sing song" cadance,stuttering is often treated by using an amped down version of that delivery.I find his conversational style weak

Artful Dodger: I'll admit,she was very weak,but not stupid

Artful Dodger: Palin is being interviewed tonite on a CBC program called "The Hour"

I can't wait to watch oil meet water,the guy who does the show keeps his guests on their toes

http://www.cbc.ca/thehour/index.html

(V):

Czuch: Saddam was so bad that certain countries gave him WMD materials to use against Iran.... .... .... Mmmmmmm

As for sanctions and resolutions... The USA has always vetoed such action.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html

Read it Czuch. Israel has been living as though international law did not apply to it for decades.

(V): r u kidding???

You still dont understand the concept that Saddam and Iraq were a very uniquely different situation than any other faced around the globe in these times?

I dont see years of UN sanctions or constant monitoring or 90% of the people needing me to feed them, they havent threatened us in the recent past, they are not a threat to give nukes to people who want to use them against us... the list goes on and on.... for you to even compare Saddam to what is going on now with Israel only adds to the depth of ignorance about both what is going on now and what Iraq was all about!

Charles Martel: And the recent use of cluster bombs in Lebanon isn't exactly kosher. Leaving behind a country riddled with unexploded munitions that will more probably kill innocent civilians then para military forces....

If that had been done by Saddam, there would be uproar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing  Given up???? thats Hilarious

 What shall we call menachim begin and the irgun? terrorist? The American Indian?  savages??? the   Jews of the Holocaust? sub humans? calling people fighting in their own land  to reclaim it terrorist is just a tactic to dehumanize them as to make them more comfortable to kill,  like the examples listed above

Artful Dodger: Has it? Has it given back all the land they nicked in the name of setting up more settlements.. I heard they were giving that land back, but not sure how it's progressed.

I think you'll find most ordinary Palestinians would just like to have a normal life, so would most of Israel citizens, but you get like you did in Northern Ireland where both sides squabble and kill each other in a tit for tat war.

And yes, I think the Palestinians would love a country of their own if it was secure, recognised and protected by the same international laws that apply to every other country. If that was done, don't you think the hatred by the extremists that they spread would have less ears listening?

And you are right.. There is plenty of land there, but thanks to all this fighting some serious getting down and talking about a secure safe region where all can live in their own country is not happening.

No-one is winning. No-one will win until some serious pressure from the rest of the world gets to happen. But the USA will probably block that.

.... Shame.

Charles Martel: I think the USA's right to veto on anything to do with the Israel/Palestine situation should be revoked.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html

Maybe then, people can actually get involved and slap both sides heads and with reasonable force tell them enough is enough, the rest of the world is getting sick and tired of your childish games of who owns the playground.

(V): Also the building continues, of new and expanded settlements, which was to be stopped so long ago. the game continues and the missiles fly and probably always will

Artful Dodger: One of the comments from your link....

"United Earth
Afghanistan 31/12/2008

Plan B

The problem is is that both sides refuse to budge on their desires. To the PALs guy here, you cannot have Israel back. What is done is done and the clock cannot be rolled back. You must go to Plan B and demand a Palestinion state. Israel MUST give up land for peace. Have UN peacekeepers from China if necessary. Stop calling for the destruction of Israel and Israel must stop refusing to sacrifice land. Plan B is the only solution. Anything else is armagedden."

Artful Dodger: The Palestinians will turn on Abbas,at Hamas's urging,I totally agree with your other points

Artful Dodger: Hamas couldn't be happier,and it's a "no win" situation for Israel.