Artful Dodger: Historically speaking, losing ground in both the senate and congress is typical for the political party in power.They will lose seats, but two months is enough time to close the gap

Artful Dodger: He has lots of time to rebound, St Ronny didn't become popular until the assassination attempt

http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/18064/


From Forbes:

"The GOP’s constant kneejerk rejection of economic ideas simply for the sake of Saying No has as much to do with our current malaise as anything being done wrong in the White House. The newly-minted fiscal conservatives on the Republican side of the aisle, many of whom are themselves responsible for the $3 trillion and counting Iraq War, are like the old men in the Muppet Show who heckle from the balcony.

It’s naysaying for naysaying’s sake at this point and I hope voters will remember that their favorite Republican All-Stars are equally complicit in the crime that is 15 million unemployed 3 years into a recession"


http://blogs.forbes.com/streettalk/2010/09/06/gop-offers-heckling-as-economic-solution/?boxes=businesschannelsections

Artful Dodger: cool, the "viewer mail" portion of the program

Artful Dodger: Actually pretty accurate, you guys put the Bush bashers to shame, repubs can kick some butt

Artful Dodger: But weren't the repubs saying the same about Bush bashing? I expected more from you guys, two wrongs don't make a right do they? are you guys no better than those nutty libs?

So little respect for the president of your country, tsk tsk

If he isn't pulling a Borat,the men in the white coats can't be far behind

http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/18000/

(V): I drink Stella Artois, but have you ever tried a Canadian beer?

We're her to comment on American issues, not canuck junk.There must be a hockey game going on somewhere eh, go buy a two four, and watch it...............................and don't forget my extra crispy, the perfect companion to an evening with friends and family

Artful Dodger:

Artful Dodger: If you base viewership on quality than how do you explain Kate plus 8?

(V): I remember going to a political rally in Buffalo back in 81, the Stones were also playing, skipped the rally.............I saw a case of Canadian beer at about half the price, it turned out to be their version, it was wattered down slop,I was shattered, sha doobie

(V): I'm surprised the international beer police haven't revoked their license to call it beer

Artful Dodger: They sure won't get a buzz from your American beer, that is god awful stuff, any Britt or Canadian will vouch for that

Tuesday: buzz kill

Ferris Bueller: What's the going rate these days?

Tuesday: They'll come around once he schedules more photo ops coming out of church carrying a bible

Artful Dodger: So how many chances does a white President get

Artful Dodger: He's an opportunist, much like Beck.They both exploit.

GTCharlie: I stated originally, I can't decide who is a bigger ass,Beck or Sharpton

This past weekend, the lawn of the Lincoln Memorial played host to the biggest tea party Washington D.C. has ever seen. And what a Wonderland it was, with the Mad Hatter – conservative commentator Glenn Beck – and the Queen of Hearts – former vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin – exhorting the crowd to forget politics and focus on a higher power. According to Mr. Beck, “Something beyond imagination is happening … America today begins to turn back to God.”.............

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/08/30/tasha-kheiriddin-religious-conservatisms-slippery-slope/

Artful Dodger: http://www.youtube.com/user/mystoneytube?feature=pyv&ad=4983202784&kw=palin#p/u/0/_QCwh6T9QsE

(V): I'm all for live and let live, but Scientology is a bit of a stretch

(V): He's pulling a Borat, it will all come out on film, brilliant

Tuesday: The original is a nice companion to that one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anNEJJYLU8M&feature=related

Artful Dodger:

Artful Dodger: I don't know which of the two is a bigger ass

Artful Dodger: "There's a sucker born every minute"

PT Barnum

Tuesday: It was a gesture that cost nothing, but gained goodwill."White people" will be the minority soon anyway

"GERRY": We pay them back at the casinos

Tuesday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34

Artful Dodger: Yeah, he's a shareholder, being a shareholder maybe the classy thing to do would have been to chew him out privately.

"except for Fox"...........that reminds me, why is Fox dumping all over Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf?
He is a share holder afterall

Artful Dodger: You don't pay on a sliding scale like income tax, and you're not stuck paying 30 grand for an MRI for some guy in Montreal.Canadians have just as many issues with our imperfect govt as Americans, or anyone else for that matter, but paying for our healthcare model doesn't even register in the richter scale of gripes.

Apparently it has advantages

By: Sheryl Ubelacker, Health Reporter, The Canadian Press

Date: Wednesday Apr. 28, 2010 5:24 PM PT

When it comes to differences between Canada and the U.S., there is one area at least where we can claim bragging rights: Canadians have the edge when it comes to life expectancy and health-related quality of life.

"Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans," said U.S. health economist David Feeny, lead author of a newly published analysis of a joint Canada-U.S. population health survey. "Mortality rates are lower in Canada and the health related quality of life -- the quality of those years -- is higher in Canada than in the United States."

In fact, the analysis of the 2002-2003 data shows that a 19-year-old in Canada, for instance, can expect to enjoy 2.7 years more of "perfect health" than an American the same age, said Feeny, an investigator at the Kaiser Permanente Center for Health Research

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100428/bc_canadians_americans_longevity_100428/20100428?hub=BritishColumbia

Übergeek 바둑이: I didn't say it was a non issue, just that it is "overblown".60 is the new 40,65 is a very outdated retirement age.There will be an additional burden of course, but nothing like the hype suggests, due to many not seeking retirement for years or decades past 65..... IMO

The baby boomer doomsday scenario is overblown, people rarely retire and sit on their asses at 65 anymore, many work until death,and willingly

Artful Dodger: Nobody is under the illusion that covering the whole nation with healthcare won't cost money, it will.It is simply a question of priorities.Most major nations of the world have decided it is worth the sacrifice of additional taxation,maybe Americans aren't as interested.The same goes for gays in the military, few other major nations feel it's a big deal, the USA does,you are what you are, and will make your own decisions on these issues.

Tuesday: yes, that's her complete resume before the view

Tuesday: She's dumber than dirt generally,how she parlayed being on survivor to a career on tv mystifies

Snoopy: but wouldn't you not even be on a 6 week waiting list if it was too expensive, and you had to pay for it/

Franklin D. Roosevelt's Address to Congress January 6, 1941


In the future days, which we seek to make secure, we look forward to a world founded upon four essential human freedoms.
The first is freedom of speech and expression -- everywhere in the world.

The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way -- everywhere in the world.

The third is freedom from want -- which, translated into world terms, means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants -- everywhere in the world.

The fourth is freedom from fear -- which, translated into world terms, means a world-wide reduction of armaments to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a position to commit an act of physical aggression against any neighbor-- anywhere in the world.

That is no vision of a distant millennium. It is a definite basis for a kind of world attainable in our own time and generation. That kind of world is the very antithesis of the so-called new order of tyranny which the dictators seek to create with the crash of a bomb.

To that new order we oppose the greater conception -- the moral order. A good society is able to face schemes of world domination and foreign revolutions alike without fear.

Since the beginning of our American history, we have been engaged in change -- in a perpetual peaceful revolution -- a revolution which goes on steadily, quietly adjusting itself to changing conditions -- without the concentration camp or the quick-lime in the ditch. The world order which we seek is the cooperation of free countries, working together in a friendly, civilized society.

This nation has placed its destiny in the hands and heads and hearts of its millions of free men and women; and its faith in freedom under the guidance of God. Freedom means the supremacy of human rights everywhere. Our support goes to those who struggle to gain those rights or keep them. Our strength is our unity of purpose.

To that high concept there can be no end save victory

Pedro Martínez: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34

(V): Politicians depend on short memories.It struck me when the Chinese were mentioned in the Cantor propoganda video, that they would probably be very happy to see 3 trillion in taxation back in the kitty

(V): It was fun watching McConnell try and stay on messege, while reality kept trying to rear its ugly head.

is that after the 10 year period, the tax cuts were intended to be re introduced, with justification of how they would be paid for.That's 3 trillion dollars in lost revenue that needs to be balanced, if the Republicans are to look after their very rich friends

http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/17908/

Artful Dodger: kinda like the congress, senate and President with the same amount of gridlock