macoan: This has been brought up a few times (including me). I asked Fencer, and he did not like the idea. He said that then, if a player has to pass several moves in a row (like in reversi, or backgammon), the board might come back to them completely different then when they last saw it. He also likes players to be able to send messages with all moves, including passes. Hope that helps :-)

I read how you are going to bring Battleboats here (YEA!) About a year ago, I brough up an idea of another version of Battleboats that I suggested to IYT, but it never did get far there.

So I thought I would post it here - maybe while you are programming, and it sounds interesting - you might do it! (Which having different games then the other main turn-based sites would be a big plus for this site.)

Anyway, my version is played with 3-4 players. All the players would play on the same big board! Each player would have one "4" boat, two "3" boats, and two "2" boats. (or less depending on how big of a board is used)

The computer would have to "randomly" place all the boats since if players did it, it might end up overlapping (since it is on the same big board)

But then like regular battleboats, each player will get a shot. You can sink either of the other players boats. So for example, player 1 shot hits player 3 boat. Player 2 sees this shot, and also hits and sinks player 3 boat.

Anyway, that is the basic idea for my Super-Doper Battleboat game! :-)

Sorry if this was brought up before.

How about making it so when you have no moves, it will automaticly pass for you. (and just send it right back to the other player to make his next move).

(I'm thinking of Backgammon, but probable can be used in other games also.)

Both ideas are ok with me.

I will look at it.

seems to me goon that a white queen went missing when a black queen jumped itsself then two of white.. not sure thats right.. seems like a glitch to me

goonerg i was able to do that move a few times now and had it done to me also....im not sure its a bug might be a strange move...ive done it a few times..i sorta liked it...i know i didnt like it when it happened against me thou haha

in my parachute checkers game with geomomo, my move 10 seems a bit strange.... can you have a look please fencer.

Thx.

Thanks Niki

Probably because it's been made much simpler here .. all you have to do is click on a user name, and you go straight to their profile :)

Why cant we have a check user profile as they do on GT and IYT. You only have check your own profile on here

I very much agree with the suggestion.
Renju is a great game.
I would also like to see the Checker boards changed to look like real Checkers, with Checker pieces instead of Chess pieces.
And in the case of Straight checkers (English draughts), the darker pieces should move first.
Imagine how Chess players would react if White had to move second.
It's disorienting.

I have never seen a site grow as fast as this site has.. this is fantastic..
"Hey Fencer", could you by any chance give us an idea how far into the future before you start working on implementing Sabotage (and it's variants) to the site.. (being patient, but waiting very anxiously) passed week i've had several "females" ask to be invited to a Sabotage game on IYT.. I'd really like to see it "here" soon.. :-))

In addition to the pro version of 5-in-line that I requested earlier, a game I`d very much like to see here is Renju. IYT doesn`t have that game either and I think it would attract many top players here to play it and 5-in-line also...and top players always draw along many times more other players who want to play against them and learn the game.

Current for free Brain Pawn account, you are allowed to enter only 1 tournament at a time (Which is good for a free account)

My suggestion is to allow a Brain Pawn to enter their next tournament once they have completed all their own games in the section (and there is no chance of going to next round.)

For example, I complete all my games in a tournament, and I'm now waiting for 1 game to finish in my section until I can enter the next tournament - which could be a week or more!

I'll probable upgrade my membership in the next few weeks so hopefully this will not be a big problem for me, but I can see how it would be helpful for other people.

:o( I see!! Yes, it would be a bit much I guess! Never mind!!

dream: Yes, I like this IYT feature. It is already on my TODO list :-)
hrlqns: There is not enough space to list all teams. Imagine that you are a member of all teams of eddie spaghetti's fellowship - it would take the whole page to display! ;-)

Whats it matter?, as long as both players agree to the draw. The same arguement can be said for any game.

You know at the bottom of our page where we have which fellowships we are in? Is it possible to have next to each fellowship which teams we are in for each one?

Like

(fellowship) halma, backgammon, checkers
(fellowship) chess, tablut, nackgammon

Just so we can keep track of which teams we are in for each fellowship, without having to write it down or visit the pages to find out?

I know the perfect solution. IYT has an option in a regular game for a player to request a longer timeout period, ie from 3 days to 30 this gives you the opportunity to finish those delayed matches, without having to ask for a draw.
However I think a tournament should never have the opportunity of a draw in backgammon as it is not in the rules, thus the option should not be there :-)

Dream, thats what I meant, even though in a normal game its not possible to have a draw, there may be certain circumstances where both players may want to agree to a draw. If one player disagrees then the other player would have to either time out or finish the game.
Its a bit like playing a game at home, then visitors arrive.. so the board is put away and a draw agreed upon!!
Its not like one player announces a draw and thats the end of the game, you get the choice of accepting or rejecting the draw. :o)

dream: And what if both players don't want to finish a game because of a lack of time? Instead of one of them timing out, they can agree with a draw which is a better choice for both of them.

My argument Fencer is it is impossible to have a draw in the official rules for backgammon, and for the site to have any credibility in the future for backgammon players then it should not offer one. I have also struck big problems in the past with draws in tournaments at another site. So just trying to perhaps make things better (and avoid the conflicts) :-)

eddie: But such a box could help players to find a winning move, eh? ;-) I'm not sure if it would be popular.
dream: It is a risky proposal. In general, you can negotiate a draw in any game, if both players agree with it. I think it causes no harm if I leave the draw offer for all games :-)

Hrlqns: There can only be one winner in a game of backgammon, it is impossible to have 2 winners. Any player with any experience knows this.

I would settle for a draw every time LOLOL :-)

Dream, the option is a valid one because it may be that half way through a game one player has personal issues and cannot carry on with the game, but the scores are level, so a draw is decided upon.
There are all kinds of reasons a draw may be a good idea in backgammon.

On the subject of the draw option (lol...well loosely on the subject)...Fencer it is impossible to have a draw in the game of backgammon, and there shouldn't really be an option there, can you remove it sometime? Please? :-)

maybe its a good one..you know how you have a little box to check inside the games if ya wanna offer a draw with this move??..how about a little box to offer a new game with this move if its the last move in a game..it would have to be abother game excatly how ya just played..so if i knew i was gonna win or lose with the next move..the box shows up and we can click it for another game of same thing...what ya think?

Ok, now i see. I never bothered to read the message as i already knew that i won. That will be okay as it is. I guess i like too much the way IYT has it set up where it brings up a page and you can click a link to start a new game. But you have it set up fine..

no fencer thats great how it is and I am sure most will agree it cant be much easier then to read the end message and click to invite the player to a new game or new type of game!

Have you ever tried to read a message after your game is finished? There is a small form "Invite this user to a new game of [the game]" :-)
Or should I place it elsewhere?

Unless i am missing something, why not fix it when you complete a normal game with someone have it where you can invite them to another game easily? I find it a little bothersome to have to click on the persons profile and bring up another game invite. It would save time and effort to have it set up a new game option right after the first is done. You know something like IYT has it fixed. Or is there something i am missing? Just a thought, and great site Fencer...

I like how IYT solves this issue. I will only improve it by several ideas of mine.

PHew... thats a relief..LOL

dream: Of course :-)

Fencer: are you intending for players to be able to save and load boards and choose random boards for battleships? (fingers crossed) I have heard so many people complain about the way you have to set up boards at GT :-)

hrlqns: Good point :-) I will add it.
Rabbits2: I apologize that it is not done yet. Because of recent server problems, I had no time for it. I will concentrate on it now.
PastaPatty: Yes, thanks for reminding me. I will implement battleboats just after creating bigger backgammon boards.

On the Games Rules pages, would it be possible to add a 'start a new game of this type' on each page? After reading the rules of a game its annoying having to go to New Game and go through all that.
With the checkers games and those with a number of variants I haven't played much, I like to check the rules before starting a game! A link would make it easier!

I hate to complain all of the time but it sure would help to have Bigger Backgammon Board and Dice Sizes for the people that have to wear glasses!

fencer can you tell me if battleship and its variation will soon be added.?? I have several players from other sites that I am working on to bring over but they won't come until the games are here. thats all they play.

Do you want just a form to write simple annotation text or some more advanced tool to support chess annotation rules etc?

I have a suggestion to make,which probably have been already made by other players too.How about a place where we can annotate games?

Thanks for that fencer. I have had alot of ppl reply to something I wrote in an invite and havent a clue what it is they are replying to lol

It won't be a big problem.

I think the message sent with invitation should be added to the message archive when the game starts. Any change to see that in the future?

Sure :-) Later.

Will you be introducing the ability to define tournaments between different fellowships? This would be a lot more fun than just playing your own fellowship members, ie club challenges at GT.

Yes!!!

this is where some colors are badly needed