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Sam has closed his piano and gone to bed ... now we can talk about the real stuff of life ... love, liberty and games such as
Janus, Capablanca Random, Embassy Chess & the odd mention of other 10x8 variants is welcome too


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- invitations to games (you can also use the New Game menu or for particular games: Janus; Capablanca Random; or Embassy)
- information about upcoming tournaments
- disussion of games (please limit this to completed games or discussion on how a game has arrived at a certain position
... speculation on who has an advantage or the benefits of potential moves is not permitted while that particular game is in progress)
- links to interesting related sites (non-promotional)


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16. Марта 2007, 08:34:12
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
WhisperzQ: C'mon, this board was dead before this exchange :)

26. Марта 2006, 18:50:16
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
Fwiffo: There is no such board in BrainKing. The current regime doesn't like retrograding :)

10. Марта 2006, 19:58:29
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
JinkyOng: I'd visit the ranking pages for FRC if I were you!

1. Марта 2006, 14:20:53
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: yipee!
Pedro Martínez: Exactly ;)

28. Февраля 2006, 22:29:40
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: yipee!
ColonelCrockett: Nobody can really forget GC but with MBC around, who needs GC anyway? ;)

28. Февраля 2006, 12:20:39
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: yipee!
ColonelCrockett: Not hard to forget about GC when you have MBC ;)

20. Февраля 2006, 05:33:50
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
HalfPawn: Now why would anyone want to know that? Since the answer is easily "googleable", isn't Embassy well-supported and playable here as it is?

30. Января 2006, 21:06:16
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
tedbarber:

- What is the exact flaw in the placement of major pieces in Embassy Chess?
- Capablanca Chess is certainly inferior to CRC, as it leaves unprotetcted pieces at startup. However, CRC cannot be generally compared with Capablanca or other 8x10 chess variants, as it was created for a very specific reason: avoiding drawn games through randomization of the initial position (Reinhard, please correct me if I'm wrong)

30. Декабря 2005, 12:08:33
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: SMIRF left the GC championship
Fencer: Please let us know if you intend to publish any of it or a summary at least :)

21. Декабря 2005, 07:47:31
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: The 2005 Gothic Chess Computer World Championship
ChessCarpenter: ... and they defeated each other as BLACK! Let's see if this trend goes on.

10. Ноября 2005, 06:18:16
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: computers + openings
SMIRF Engine: Won't it be eventually implemented, after a few thousand games, and only for reasons of avoiding clearly "losing" opening moves? Unless ALL opening moves have no clear losing potential whatsoever :)

9. Ноября 2005, 16:22:28
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: computers + openings
SMIRF Engine: Not even "preferred" opening moves for the first couple of plies? ;)

9. Ноября 2005, 06:21:18
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
Walter Montego: In Greece we use periods as thousand separators and commas as decimal points. Is it that important? :)

8. Ноября 2005, 22:58:12
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
Pythagoras: Maybe the reason is the "complete information" attribute that Backgammon carries? (as discussed in the Backgammon board)

8. Ноября 2005, 18:26:44
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: From relatively unknown to known
Walter Montego: Therefore:

- Human chess should be "restricted" to FRC/CRC
- Computer chess should be "restricted" to Chess/Gothic Chess

:) Wouldn't that be sweet?...

8. Ноября 2005, 18:02:18
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: From relatively unknown to known
ColonelCrockett: Sorry for butting in, but if Pythagoras (formerly known as ChessMaster1000) who has defeated Gothic Vortex and other engines in the recent past, says that it will happen, I'm pretty sure he wasn't shooting his own foot ;) But myself, I keep my reservations about this - so it's up to Pythagoras to answer you obviously!

8. Ноября 2005, 16:30:14
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: From relatively unknown to known
Walter Montego: Exactly my line of thought as well. I did think that Reinhard was being a bit too "mathematical" with his assertions, without applying some further factors in the process :)

8. Ноября 2005, 12:27:27
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: From relatively unknown to known
SMIRF Engine: But what if the computing power available today and later will bring the same faults to them that standard chess now has? Or is that a very distant future? :)

6. Ноября 2005, 15:04:37
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
WhisperQ: The link is slightly screwed :)

6. Ноября 2005, 08:23:20
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
redsales: Right on.

Anyway, the only way we can get as close as possible to any comparison between them is to make them play each other according to software like ChessMasterSomeThousand, where, I think, chess personalities are programmed... I know, it's not anything conclusive, but I'd like to know what happens :)

11. Октября 2005, 12:12:40
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: Protected Pawns in CRC
SMIRF Engine: Bug reporters, start your keyboards!

2. Октября 2005, 01:26:02
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: MBC
SMIRF Engine: Sorry to butt in, but if your program is even half well-structured, no new code introduction should affect any core functionality... or your core needs redesigning! :)

22. Сентября 2005, 08:53:15
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
CardinalFlight: That would be LAW of great numbers, sorry :)

22. Сентября 2005, 08:52:50
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
CardinalFlight: I would say the percentage of DRAWS is unusually low :) But give it a few more millions of games and the percentages will be closer - hail to the low of great numbers!

14. Сентября 2005, 22:28:38
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
pawnme: Or, even more directly, at:

www.GothicChessLive.com

14. Сентября 2005, 21:42:21
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
naughtypawn: After successful lobbying (not really!) it does no longer refer to a movie title but to a Cuban chess player (except for the rest of it, which, I suppose, was the trade-off, thanks to Grim Reaper!)

14. Сентября 2005, 21:28:16
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
naughtypawn: Well, the Chess Variants (10x8) headline is now real-world-compliant :)

14. Сентября 2005, 09:18:09
WhiteTower 
OK, if you gonna mess up Capablanca, whah not turn da others into Janes Chess and Gotham Chess as well?

Let's get serious, it's Capablanca Random Chess, there's no S in Capablanca.

14. Сентября 2005, 00:39:02
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
Grim Reaper: And actually, you invented Gotham Chess, right? :)

13. Сентября 2005, 22:08:52
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: Moderators......
Pythagoras: Well spotted!

2. Сентября 2005, 13:01:21
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
Grim Reaper: Yes, maybe in CowPlay you were right, but you see, in both cases, the owner of the site removed it because you somehow leveraged them to do so, not because they didn't like Gothic Chess or something... Whatever the reason in each case, you don't make friends like that... Surely there could be a compromise somehow...

2. Сентября 2005, 06:03:25
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
tedbarber: The answer is no. There was another site with this setup that was proud to introduce Gothic Chess to its members, but [coughs and stares at Ed] it was also removed by the site owner...

1. Сентября 2005, 22:06:11
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
Grim Reaper: It doesn't. But under the hood, BrainKing uses Java to generate all these nice pages we love so much :)

1. Сентября 2005, 21:52:58
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
Grim Reaper: Errr... yes, it does.

1. Сентября 2005, 21:43:31
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Implementation date for CRC
Fencer: BTW can "soon" become a bit less vague, please? Isn't it like a patch of the BrainKing Java code for FRC on the Gothic Chess setup?

Yes, I know it's never THAT easy, but...

31. Августа 2005, 13:29:10
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Last day for new Gothic Chess games!
So, please, no 30 days/move silliness, OK? :)

26. Августа 2005, 23:52:10
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Gothic Chess removal
Quite brave of Fencer to go that far. At least Ed's live site might get more traffic this way :)

18. Августа 2005, 22:43:37
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
Grim Reaper: Come on, Ed, you calculated that mate in two-hundred-something moves, this one should be easy-peasy :)

18. Августа 2005, 16:35:07
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
Grim Reaper: Mate in... ?

17. Июня 2005, 11:59:12
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
andreas: I heard most of it this morning before heading off to work. It was mostly e-mail questions by the chess.fm public, who were obviously curious about Gothic Chess :) In the end, the presenter put it appropriately: "We can only have this kind of topic once a year, as most of our listeners are interested in standard chess." (or something along those lines)

The listeners seemed to ask plenty of varying questions, mentioning "why not 10x10?" or "what about making it like FRC?" or "what differences to Bird/Capablanca?" etc.

Ed was guite thorough, even quoting specific endgame URLs from his website :)

11. Июня 2005, 14:42:00
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
fungame: "Ideal for pawns who don't like to spend years waiting for tournament to finish or for players who like to play fast."

You must be kidding or you don't remember when you were a pawn - if you ever were. Even when your tournament games as a pawn are over, you still have to wait until EVERYBODY ELSE has finished, NOT until YOU have finished and have either:

- won your group and, therefore, are happy to wait next round, or
- been eliminated and SHOULD be allowed to go and sign up to your next tournament, since you have no more contribution or influence on the present tournament.

I mean REALLY!!!

13. Мая 2005, 11:55:07
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: Online Game Smirf / Gothic Inventor
Sumerian: "Is your Gothic Vortex even still subject for improvements (beside of providing more looking-up information)?."

Even I can tell, since Chessmaster1000 could beat Gothic Vortex very nicely, that the latter should still have some room for improvement ;)

5. Марта 2005, 02:31:03
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: Tedbarber
tedbarber: So BrainKing should be JUST like all other chess sites?!? tsk tsk tsk...

12. Февраля 2005, 11:05:03
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
BuilderQ: no, and it looks like a stupid discussion board issue was to blame...

8. Декабря 2004, 16:20:31
WhiteTower 
I suppose any and all such questions would be easily answerable by Mr Trice, if he decided to grace this board with his presence again...

25. Октября 2004, 23:37:15
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Pawns have no right to vote
As a Pawn, I admit we are not entitled to as many rights as paying members. In any case, maybe Fencer should just make moderating rules such that there is never any dispute as to who can ban who, who can become moderator etc. It's just too loose as it is now...

A good site should have a solid set of rules that everyone WILL follow or not be part of the site. I've written the main policy document for an Internet Relay Chat network in the past and, believe me, there are a LOT of things that need to be taken care of in that environment. In the end, IRC operators (like discussion board moderators here) have an effective tool to police an otherwise unmanageable mess...

14. Октября 2004, 12:22:34
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
Only after Ed has been officially contacted for licensing ;)

13. Октября 2004, 07:17:23
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
Not really, there's Chessbase Light, which is free, and then there's the full Chessbase with more capabilities - surely you could do the same, I mean Chessbase's success proves it can be given away for free in a cut-down version...

7. Октября 2004, 08:08:42
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re:
Maybe this is a good time, then, to have a preview of the minimum requirements for this next, high-end version?

1. Октября 2004, 15:56:47
WhiteTower 
Субъект: Re: computer championship
... now isn't that a much nicer deviation from the board's topic? ;)

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