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12. maj 2004, 12:42:12
Chessmaster1000 
Ämne: For "Maple Leaf GZ" about Cheating...
<>I do however find it interesting why someone who >is a known (by admission) program user would >start questioning ratings systems etc. Maybe it >would be fairer to have Fencer reset your BKR >Chessmaster so that you can start out playing >fairly all the time.
>Do you still use programs?

Well i want to know about BKR formula because i'm a curious man and i like mathematical formulas anyway.
Also (and this is interesting) i had two games at Backgammon with one person. The one was lost and the other was won and both of them was one move(by me) before the end. So which one i had to play first. The one i'm losing so my BKR would drop and his will increase, so that i would have bigger difference from him and when i win the other i would have a higher BKR than that i had at the beggining? Or the opposite? Or it doesn't matter? I will search a bit about this. NO i'm not a BKR-addicted, i just doing this because i like to play with numbers and mathematics.


As for cheating: I play here and generally Chess, Gothic Chess, Backgammon, Maharajah Chess and Reversi 8x8. While i find the first 4 easy to play with a human logic, i find Reversi 8x8 a very crazy-complicated game in which no clear plan you can make to play it correctly. I know some rules about mobility(to have less pieces at the middlegame is good), some patterns in the corners and many opening moves, but yet all these doesn't make me feel comfortable with the game and if i look into one position i'm not so sure who is better. I have written a program (still on beta stage) and it's rather strong although it plays with reduce force, and i've used it to play Reversi 8x8 here (Not all moves by it - mainly most moves was mine but when i thought i had troubles and i didn't know what to do i used it).
BUT i thought ALL other people here who play Reversi 8x8, are doing the same thing as the game is too crazy to play it alone. After one game with someone i admitted that i used my program, after he asked me if i used Zebra, thinking that telling him it is not something bad. Now that i know almost all people don't use a program to play i've stopped playing Reversi 8x8 and the 3 games i have running right now, i play them by myself. (There was one clever person who chalenged me at Reversi8x8 and used a program(i think) to test if i still use my program after the noise at Reversi boards for me and at the beggining i played alone but because his behaviour was hypocritical and he thought i didn't understand him, i used it again to see his reaction....)

Anyway as in 80% of my Reversi 8x8 games i used my program, i believe it's fair all my Reversi 8x8 games to be deleted because my BKR and wins record is not something which represent my Reversi 8x8 skills. Do you think that someone who wanted to cheat would admit after the game and now that he was using a program and all his games to be deleted at Reversi 8x8? I hate cheating and that was the reason i stopped playing at Yahoo games, Chess (From 2001 and after i always lose).

For other games i play, i don't use a program to play as in Gothic Chess there is only one program which plays G.C that had stopped working in my PC but the main reason is that even if it worked i don't find it fair to play with it, for Chess i could never use a program to play without my opponent know it, at Backgammon i don't need one obviously "I'm from Greece if you understand:)" and i'm an master at it and for Maharajah i solved this game so i don't need....
But generally all these games are understandable by me except Reversi 8x8, so i find it totally unfair to use a program to play them. I'm not someone who wants to win and his purpose of life is to win by any way. (My semi-purpose of life is some aliens to arrive at earth, see the solution of (Gothic)Chess, see the solution of 3N+1 problem, e.t.c..). I just want to play good games and have fun, although i don't like to lose of course. I find unfair to play with computer at Reversi 8x8 too, but i thought this is what is happening at this game due to it's complexity. Now i know this is not true i've stopped.
Someone asked me if i use Chessmaster for playing Chess. No i don't use it of course. I have this for my username as Chessmaster is my favourite program.

Forgive me i was not so detailed. I had to
write a few more things:):)

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