JerNYC: As I stated in a previous post each to their own. I still think this site is the best to play in for layout etc. IYT no longer have discussion boards and runs very slow for me. and I can't understand Goldtokens layouts so don't bother with the discussion boards. Granted Goldtoken is upgrading and improving the site and if things do fail the owner does extend membership sometimes. If this site is losing members it has to be because Fencer has shown no interest in this site anymore which is a pity.