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21. júla 2007, 09:02:18
ScarletRose 
Subjekt: Watermelon
my little black pom loves watermelon.. She also loves ice cream and cheese sticks.. but, like the watermelon.. it is given sparingly...

21. júla 2007, 09:11:04
srnity 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
ScarletRose: Ice cream and cheese sticks are both VERY high in fat and calories, just like humans, animals can become overweight and obese - dogs don't need high-fat foods, they need high-protein foods to build muscle, not fat

22. júla 2007, 01:01:53
SEAWOLF2 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
srnity:

THAT IS TRUE! DOGS SHOULD NOT EAT THE SAME DIET AS PEOPLE AS THEY ARE TRUE CARNIVORES (MEAT
EATERS) AND REQUIRE PROTEIN, NOT TOO MUCH FAT, AND NO SUGAR!
THEY CANNOT METABOLIZE IT!

WATERMELON HAS NATURAL SUGARS WHICH ARE NOT AS HARMFUL AS THE REFINED SUGAR USED IN HUMAN SWEETS AND TREATS. THE SUGAR IN ICE CREAM AND POPSICLES IS A REAL NO-NO THOUGH! THE DAIRY IN ICE CREAM IS NOT ONLY HIGH IN FAT CONTENT, BUT ADULT DOGS CANNOT METABOLIZE THE LACTOSE.
(PUPPIES REQUIRE THEIR MOTHER'S MILK TO ACQUIRE THE NATURAL ANTIBODIES FROM THE COLOSTRUM THE FIRST FEW WEEKS AFTER BEING WHELPED, BUT AS ADULTS THEY NO LONGER NEED NOR CAN THEY "USE"
OR METABOLIZE MILK PROTEINS.0
THAT IS WHY ICE CREAM OFTEN WILL GIVE ADULT DOGS DIARRHEA.

THERE ARE OTHER TREATS THAT YOU CAN GIVE DOGS THAT ARE MEANT FOR CANINE CONSUMPTION. ONE ICE CREAM LIKE TREAT IS CALLED "FROSTY PAWS" AND IT DOES NOT HAVE THE LACTOSE IN IT THAT REAL ICE CREAM HAS. BUT AS LONG AS IT ISN'T GIVEN IN LARGE AMOUNTS OR VERY OFTEN A SMALL
PORTION OF PLAIN VANILLA ICE CREAM USUALLY WILL NOT CAUSE
MUCH HARM EXCEPT FOR POSSIBLY
LOOSE STOOLS FOR A DAY OR TWO.

AND SPEAKING OF SWEETS: PLEASE BE AWARE THAT CHOCOLATE HAS A CHEMICAL COMPOUND IN IT THAT IS TOXIC TO DOGS - THEOBROMINE. UNDER NO CONDITIONS SHOULD YOU ALLOW YOUR DOGS TO HAVE CANDY CHOCOLATE OR CHOCOLATE-FLAVORED
FOODS CONTAINING COCOA POWDER.

ANOTHER "SWEET" TASTING ITEM YOU NEED TO KEEP YOUR ANIMALS
AWAY FROM IS ANTI-FREEZE! NOT
THAT ANYONE WOULD KNOWINGLY
GIVE IT TO THEIR PETS, BUT YOU NEED TO BE WATCHFUL THAT YOUR CAR DOES NOT LEAK AND LEAVE PUDDLES OF ANTIFREEZE WHERE YOUR PET OR YOUR NEIGHBORS PETS COULD GET INTO IT! IT IS VERY
SWEET TO THE TASTE AND DRAWS ANIMALS TO IT EVEN THOUGH IT IS HIGHLY TOXIC AND OFTEN LETHAL IF INGESTED. PLEASE MAKE SURE
YOUR RADIATOR HOSES ARE NOT LEAKING AND THAT THE OVERFLOW HOSE FROM YOUR RADIATOR IS NOT LEAVING PUDDLES OF ANTIFREEZE
WHERE YOUR PETS CAN GET INTO IT. USE PLAIN KITTY LITTER OR
"SPEEDY-DRI" SAND TO ABSORD THE SPILLS AND DISPOSE OF IT IN A COVERED CONTAINER THAT PETS CANNOT GET INTO.

ENJOY YOUR WEEKEND EVERYONE!

22. júla 2007, 03:40:38
anastasia 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon

SEAWOLF2: Actually,if you read studies about wild wolves they do eat berries and other such things that contain natural sugars.They have also been noted to eat certain plants..thus deriving the "raw" diet that has become so popular (not among myself tho)


 Also...it's a popsickle..not like I am throwing a cup of sugar down my dogs throat..he gets ice cream,ONE SCOOP every now and again...it has NOT effected his bowel movements because I do not give him that much at a time..thanks for your concern,but trust me..I am NOT going to feed a $2,000.00 dog somthing that is going to kill him


22. júla 2007, 08:30:08
ScrambledEggs 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
anastasia: i think Seawolf was speaking in general not just to you
because it surprising how lill some ppl know about feeding there animals

22. júla 2007, 11:42:21
SEAWOLF2 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
"Snoopy":

YES, MY COMMENTS WERE MEANT
AS GENERAL INFO FOR EVERYONE, SNOOPY. I WASN'T POINTING FINGERS AT ANYONE IN PARTICULAR
BUT JUST STATING THE OBVIOUS THAT POPSICLES ARE NOTHING BUT SUGAR AND WATER AND FOOD COLORING. IT IS BETTER TO GIVE DOGS PLAIN ICE CUBES. REFINED SUGAR IS NOT GOOD FOR DOGS OR HUMANS FOR THAT MATTER! NOT THAT IT WILL "KILL" THEM BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT GOOD FOR THEM EITHER.

WILD CANIDS DO EAT A PARTIALLY MIXED DIET BUT THEIR PRIMARY SOURCE OF NUTRITION COMES FROM
PROTEIN - RAW MEAT - FROM PREY
THEY KILL. WOLVES AND WILD DOGS
EAT RAW MEAT AND BONES, AND WHEN THAT IS NOT AVAILABLE THEY DO SUPPLEMENT THEIR DIETS WITH WILD GRASSES AND BERRIES, YES.
BUT CARNIVORES ARE DEFINITELY MEAT EATERS - THAT IS THEIR NATURAL AND PRIMARY SOURCE OF NUTRITION.

THE PET FOOD INDUSTRY HAS TRIED TO CHANGE AND INFLUENCE WHAT WE FEED OUR PETS AND NOW WE HAVE EPIDEMICS OF OBESE PETS WITH ALL KINDS OF HEALTH PROBLEMS STEMMING FROM POOR AND/OR INAPPROPRIATE DIETS.

WE HAVE OVERWEIGHT PETS, PETS WITH DIABETES, AND ORTHOPEDIC ISSUES THAT ALL STEM FROM BEING FED COMMERCIAL PET FOODS WHICH ARE PRIMARILY GRAINS, NOT MEAT, IN MOST CASES. EVEN PREMIUM DOG FOODS CONTAIN HIGH RATIOS OF GRAINS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS: PET FOOD MANUFACTURERS ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING MONEY! THEY ARE IN IT FOR PROFIT AND MANY COMPANIES CUT CORNERS TO INCREASE THOSE PROFITS AS EVIDENCED BY THE RECENT PET FOOD SCARE BACK IN MARCH AND APRIL.

AND STILL THERE ARE PETS DYING FROM THE EFFECTS OF THE TOXIC SUBSTANCES THAT WERE PUT INTO HUNDREDS OF BRANDS OF PET FOOD, INCLUDING THE MOST EXPENSIVE PREMIUM BRANDS ON THE MARKET!! THAT IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AND KEEP IN MIND!

WE DO NOT REALLY KNOW WHERE OUR PET FOOD IS COMING FROM SINCE MANY OF THE INGREDIENTS ARE IMPORTED EVEN THOUGH THE FOOD IS PROCESSED HERE IN OUR OWN COUNTRY. THE SAME CAN ALSO BE SAID FOR HUMAN FOODS AS WELL. THIS IS A SCARY TIME WE LIVE IN NOW AND WE MUST KEEP INFORMED ABOUT WHAT WE FEED OUR ANIMALS AND OURSELVES AS BEST WE CAN. THE DECISIONS WE MAKE COULD WELL BE LIFE OR DEATH DECISIONS AS SOME PET OWNERS FOUND OUT THIS PAST SPRING.

THE FDA AND USDA INSPECTIONS OF HUMAN FOOD PRODUCTS ARE WOEFULLY INADEQUATE AND ALL TO INFREQUENT, AND THERE ARE NO RULES OR REGULATIONS IN PLACE TO MONITOR PET FOOD AT ALL! MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT
AND THINK IF THEY FIND A FOOD ON THE SHELF AT THE STORE THAT IT MUST BE SAFE AND NUTRITIOUS.
THAT SIMPLY IS NOT TRUE!

23. júla 2007, 11:25:10
heavenlyemma 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
SEAWOLF2: I WAS WATCHING A PROGRAM ABOUT DOGS NOT LONG AGO AND THEY SAY THAT CHOCOLATE (HUMAN CHOCS) DEPRESSES DOGS THERE'S SOMETHING IN IT THAT DOES THAT TO THEM OR SOMETHING. THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS GIVE PROPER DOGGIE CHOC'S AS A TREAT NOW AND AGAIN

25. júla 2007, 20:30:11
SEAWOLF2 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
heavenlyemma:

YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THERE IS A CHEMICAL IN CHOCOLATE THAT AFFECTS DOGS.... BUT IT CAN DO A
LOT MORE THAN AFFECT THEIR MOOD!


CHOCOLATE HAS A CHEMICAL CALLED THEOBROMINE IN IT THAT IS TOXIC
TO DOGS! IT CAN BE LETHAL!!!!
PLEASE NEVER GIVE IT TO YOUR DOGS OR LEAVE CHOCOLATES SITTING OUT WHERE YOUR BELOVED PET CAN GET INTO IT AND CONSUME A LETHAL QUANTITY.

26. júla 2007, 01:18:15
rod03801 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
SEAWOLF2: I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD THAT THIS IS TRUE FOR CATS, AS WELL.

26. júla 2007, 01:55:28
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
rod03801:  It's true for Tiggers! 

26. júla 2007, 03:29:14
anastasia 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
Tigger: Not for Anastasia tho!!!

26. júla 2007, 04:16:06
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
anastasia

21. júla 2007, 09:13:33
ScrambledEggs 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
ScarletRose: my dog Nipper loved apples he went crazy everytime someone was eating one..lol

21. júla 2007, 09:21:29
srnity 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
"Snoopy": What kind of dog was "Nipper"?

21. júla 2007, 09:23:01
ScrambledEggs 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
srnity: he was a heinz 57
had alot of long haired collie in him

21. júla 2007, 10:52:35
Bernice 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon
"Snoopy": ROFL....havent heard the Heinz 57 reference used in years lOLOL.....

Scarlet....you have a black POM....my bear has a bit of POM in him im sure....the long hair, I thought he was purebred shih-tzu, but the older he gets the longer his hair gets LOLOL....hard to keep brushed. and a dog eating watermelon???? never heard of it LOLOL

21. júla 2007, 14:32:34
anastasia 
Subjekt: Re: Watermelon

Bernice: Damien is a plain Jane with his dry Royal Canine formula for GSD.I try to introduce him to new flavors but he really just has no desire.Which I suppose is actaully fine with me,less chance of an upset tummy.I do use hotdogs during training because I hold the pieces in my mouth and reward him that way..also sometimes use liver but that DOESN'T go in my mouth,almost threw up the one time I tried it,LOL!!


 He gets a popsickle everynight,any flavor makes him happy but he really seems to like the Red,White,and Blues that we buy.


 He will get vanilla ice cream maybe 3 times a year BUT he gets walked or goes on a run everyday and trains hard at the club 2 times a week.Our vet...who,in his opinion says that every dog can stand to lose 5 pounds,lol....says that Damien looks great!! and he does (NOT just saying that cuz I am his Mommy either,lol)


 BTW...24 more days before the new pup comes home!!!


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