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14. októbra 2009, 14:10:09
Snoopy 
Subjekt: Re:heres another stupid Labour idea
Zmenené užívateľom Snoopy (14. októbra 2009, 14:22:11)
(V): but thats was the whole idea of the dole system surely was to tie ppl over until they found another job
it was never meant to gave ppl luxury items like it does now

if the money is so low for single ppl how come you never or very rarely see these ppl without the latest designer gear pulling up to the signing on offices in there cars
all with there mobile phones

heres a case in point few years ago i had to go my local social security office to sort things out after my mother died
and a girl in there was bragging that she come in for a crisis loan and she said they couldnt refuse her has she had children despite the fact that on every finger where gold rings and she actually reported the guy behind the desk
when he quite natually pointed out why didnt she sell some of her gold if she was that hard up

its not actually the system i object to
its the abuse of the system thats carried out on such a massive scale
there will always be ppl in genuine need

14. októbra 2009, 14:23:51
Mort 
Subjekt: Re:how come you never or very rarely see these ppl without the latest designer gear pulling up to the signing on offices in there cars
Zmenené užívateľom Mort (14. októbra 2009, 14:26:12)
Snoopy: I don't know where you see this happening very rarely, and 2) how do you know they didn't buy this stuff before losing a job? 3) how do you know if they are single?

Do you stand outside the job centre asking them to do a survey?

I'll give one example of one guy I use to know... his cars never cost him more then £50 and were paid for by selling the old ones for scrap. But he wasn't single, he'd lost his business thanks to Maggie's boom and bust economic policy.. married and had 3 children. He had good clothes for going out, and old clothes for when he was doing bits around the home. despite being a high paid executive, last I saw he was working for Mcdonalds after not being able to find work at the time Maggie's economic policy went BUST.

But that is an old example.. if you want to find out more I suggest you do that survey.

And yes.. there are some who abuse the system.. but it's wrong to paint those who do not with the same brush.

14. októbra 2009, 14:29:13
Snoopy 
Subjekt: Re:how come you never or very rarely see these ppl without the latest designer gear pulling up to the signing on offices in there cars
(V): here we go again blame it all on Maggie despite the fact that the labour government before her had the country on its knees

14. októbra 2009, 14:53:05
Mort 
Subjekt: Re:how come you never or very rarely see these ppl without the latest designer gear pulling up to the signing on offices in there cars
Snoopy: *sigh* it's a matter of economics, something I studied at school.... the economic system her government used is in economics known as a 'boom and bust' system. It makes things look good and great for a while until the bubble bursts. Granted Labour had made some rubbish decisions, but her government did not fix the problems, just used a fresh coat of paint to cover up the cracks and holes.

Basically the same as has happened now with the current recession worldwide.

And realistically the unions had a lot to do with Labour's mess, as I said she sorted that out thankfully re the coal strikes. But as such uncontrolled lending (as did happen in her time) went BANG.

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