once knocked out of a tourney, can a brainpawn withdraw so that they can join another? if so, how?

paduking: If you are sure you are out of a tournament, you can message Fencer, and he will check to make sure & allow you to enter another :)

*EDIT*
I have checked, and yes you are out that 5 in a Row tourny. I don't know if you will have to wait for all the section to be completed though.
Message Fencer as i say and ask :)

thanks Mad Monkey. i'm fairly new here and i'm still finding my way around.

As Monkey says, PM fencer and ask to be withdrawn, he will do it. Its quite common :o)

Wow - 14 teams, 70 players in the first Backgammon Team Tournament (so far)

I'm ready for it to start, is it the 15th yet? :-)

Good point, I should implement them at last :-D

I disagree with you about having fun in a tournament. As I've said on previous occasions, "The object of a game is to win, but the reason to play a game is to have fun." I have as much fun playing a tournament game as I do a side game. I see little difference between them except for trying to win the championship as an added bonus for a tournament game. I try to win every game that I play. Even if I lose a game, I usually have fun playing it. Depends on how the game went and how well my opponent and I played and if luck was involved or not. I certainly would not play any games if there wasn't any fun in playing them. I mean, what would be the point of playing if they aren't fun? I could find something more enjoyable and rewarding with my time if I thought playing here wasn't fun. No one's paying me, so I must have a reward of fun and pleasure. I suppose even if I was getting paid it might be fun too. That would depend on other things. If this paid me like my job does, I'd quit the job and have a hobby that's fun too.

IMupChucKing 3. July 2004, 12:21:58
Your first paragraph amazes me if you truly believe what you've typed! Haven't you ever watched other people compete and seen the look of happiness on them during and after the game is over? I've watched enough professional sports to know the players are indeed having fun while playing. Sure the pressure to win is immense in pro sports, but the fun is there all the same. Lots of fun in amateur sports too. Yep, I really have trouble understanding your point of view on this subject. I hope you have fun when you play. If not, I would ask why are you playing? Just to torture yourself? There's got to be some fun in it somewhere unless you profit from it in a way that I haven't thought of. Then I could imagine playing without fun because of an ulterior motive.

2¢

I guess 'fun' may have been a bad choice of words.

I was merly trying to point out that I beleive there is a difference between a 'normal' game and a 'tournament' game.

For example, I know how to play chess, but am terrible at it. I would never consider playing in a masters chess tournament, as I would be totally outmatched, and I would not have a prayer in any games. I do would not consider that being 'fun'. My personal beleif is that I would not play in any tournament where I didn't have at least a chance to do well. The ultimate reason to play in a tournament is to win. Hopefully the challenge is difficult, as that makes the victories that much sweeter.

On the other hand, I can play a 'regular' game, even one I am not very good at, and one where I have no chance at all to win, and still have fun. It is a learning experience, without the pressure, or even the desire to win.

A regular game can be played with fun as the motivation, but a tournament game should be played with winning as the ultimate motivation, IMO. (but fun can also be a secondary motivation and byproduct)

In short.... A standard game has fun as a motivation, and a tournament game has fun as a byproduct.

Thank you for clarifying your position. Perhaps we're closer on this that it seems from reading the posts, just wording it differently.

Winning can also be not fun. Especially games like Chess. Playing a person that's no match for you guarantees a victory, but like you've said it's not as sweet. Losing every game in a tournament sucks, and it'd be hard to see the fun in it. There is still fun though. I doubt if the Chess tournament organizers would let you play the masters without going through some type of qualifying first. Of course if it's an open, you can pay the entry fee and take your lumps. :) I know that it is possible to play the champions of Bridge at certain tournaments.

Maybe the fun in a tournament is of a different kind than a side game for you. To me, on this site, the games all count about the same. It's harder to win a tournament than a single game. Perhaps that's the difference. When a prize is offered, that can make a difference too.

I play two very sweet people over and over in Halma and I win every time, That is one time playing when it is not fun to win. It would kill my rating if I lost by me wanting to loose and I realy dont want to turn down the games from these ladies because they enjoy playing against me.

There is a good point about 'fun'... Anyone who says thats all they play for, why dont they just play unrated games? People want to win, for ratings and prestege. For anyone who enjoys competition, winning is the ultimate goal. Again, fun is just a side benefit.

Thanks IMupChucKing, I never thought about playing unrated games...... I forgot there was unrated games.

The only time I don't have fun is when I give up a draw :)

dont forget...the Shooting Fish in a Barrel gothic chess tourny for players with a 1700 bkr or lower.Have fun.

Ratings aren't just to determine who is the best and who is better than who. They are mainly to give a numerical representation of that player's skill at that game. This makes it useful to determine the relative skill of everyone, and to find appropriate opponents.

thx for the update Kevin! LOL:)

according to some inflated ego's...lower bkr's mean your "weak".Personally...I find pleasure in the game,and encourage folks with lower bkrs to play,learn and have fun.

you are right there Bwild :) Im continually being told how stupid i am because i lose one game in every four...who cares, or who should care if I dont ROFLMBO :)

What are you talking about Kevin?

If I am more skilled than you at a game, isnt that the same as being better than you?
Its the same thing, only you said it like a robot...

Could have played my games too instead of posting on a few boards

he will , once its on its last day , i have some going still after well over a year ;(

IMupChucKing: Yes, if you have a higher rating that means you are better than me at that game. However, if you will reread my post, I said "Ratings aren't just to determine who is the best and who is better than who." The key word in that sentence being the word "just".

And how do you figure I said it like a robot? Because I used a higher level of vocabulary than you think I should have?

Steve: I have the same right to post on any board I like, just like everyone else (who hasn't been banned) - including you.

Just hurry up and finish our games and I wont pester you

You pestering is in fact not swaying me to play any of my games faster. And the more posts I have to reply to the longer all of my games will wait.

Btw, this is completely unrelated to tournaments.

Why not grow up and stop playing silly games with us.
It is relevant, its tournaments that you are ruining

And I guess that admission is also proof that you deliberately play slow then?

What do you mean by "deliberately play slow"? Sure I could spend 16 hours a day on here and never have a move wait longer than a few hours between my visits to this site. But I can't see that happening. If you mean that I purposely play slower than I have to just to make people wait, that isn't the case. I am not going to start the discussion re: why I play the speed I play again - you can read all about it on the Brainking.com board.

Ill refer to the top line of my last post again then

To what "silly games" are you referring?

leaving games till their final hours

I'll refer to the 4th sentence of my post four posts down.

LMAO

*yawn*

Kevin... The 'relative skill' is the SAME as who is better!

Ihave said beforwe that you are an intelligent young man. (maybe too smart for your own good) You sometime come across like a computer when you write, thats what I meant by 'robot like'. There is nothing wrong with it at all, except that you said the same thing I did, only with different words.

how do you start round 2 of a tourny now?

how do i get out of this tourny so i can join the one with free membership prize

LongJohn 8. July 2004, 13:37:09
I checked out your tourney and you definately are done there :)
1. send fencer a message and have him remove you
2. send me $50 USD for this reply
3. Join new tournament of your choice
4. win prize tourney
5. Give me $50 more buckaroonies


that post should be deleted
giving that advice to a pawn is fraudulent.
He/She asked a legitimate question :(

Monkey....delete it and mine if you wish but that is out of taste :(

It is as LongJohn says, just forget steps 2 and 5

I'm not going to delete it BerniceC. I think it was intended to be humourous. :)

Otherwise, as Steve says.

I'm not either !!!!

And what bumble said lol

why do people have to agree with each other?? it just dont seem right LOL

People don't agree with each other, so there! :oD

And to keep it on topic, I thought LongJohns post was funny too! I doubt eagleeagle took it too seriously. If he/she did, then please send me $50 too! (LOL I'm kidding!!)

I agree Steve :-Þ

*runs off to delete any post at random* LOL j/k

Time to start signing for the next 'Boat Battle'. A fast 2 day per move tourny with 5 players per section :o)
Now with all 3 boats games.

Madmonkeys 'Boat Battle' (4)

when browsing the tournament area, is there a way to desern between tournaments which are already full, or ones we have already signed up for etc.?

Or should this be a feature request?

I can be done later.

Sometimes I see in the tournementarea some tournements with a (red) minus time. I thought the tournements are starting now automatically if the deadline is reached. How is this possible?