I assumed that the membership donation was made to Fencer when the tournament was created or at least started. Silly me.

Of course that would only be for membership prizes. Lets say for other prizes (lets say if I wanted to give away a T-shirt, or DVD or something), that would not be something to send to Fencer ahead of time......

...... but then again, I've only seen membership prizes (and a couple cash prizes).

I agree.

The prize tournements donated by members are one of the great features of BK.But we need rules for it. Okay,if the promised prize will not handed over,you can say it is a matter of the donor.
But the donor uses the Bk server for his promises,that`s why it is a matter also of BK!
I suggest the following: If a prize tournement is offered by the tournement creator,he has to give the prize within 10 days to Fencer, otherwise the tournement will be deleted as not seriously.With this measure can be ensured that the winner gets indeed the promised prize,if the tournement is finished perhaps 6 or 12 months later.

Ug..exactly...im not feeling more "shaky" when i play one with 2300 than if he has 1300 LOL

It works fine because the stronger play wins by the proportion predicted by the ratings. The idea of ratings for backgammon is nonsense and I dont imagine anyone gives a hoot about them.

Arent the dices the good or bad players in backgammon? LOL

exactly my point, it shows the rating system does not work well IF somone is allowed to play higher rated players all the time.
If this ability is changed it would make the rating system for BG more reliable

I guess this is the weakness of applying this system to backgammon where a dice roll can beat a good player. In a game with no dice this strastegy is doomed to failure as the low rated player would never beat a 2700 rated player. So take the bg ratings with a grain of salt.

That wasnt the point steve.
I am referring to if I DID match the criteria.
for example,
If I had a backgammon rating of 2700 and I was ranked #1 and the #2 had a rating of 2400. If someone then put a game in the waiting roon and was sneaky and set if for +2600 rating for example, then it would be only me that would see the game waiting. However, I wouldn't know that it is only me that could see the game, and would not know that it was set up to only be available to anyone over 2600. If I knew this, and also if it had an extra stat there saying for example
*played 100
*against lower rank 1
*against higher rank 99
this would then allow me to judge whether or not it is fair to give this person a chance at extra bkr.

Nothing to worry about really LJ.

You can only see the games in waiting room, that suit the criteria that you match.

So if you are a 1500 bkr and they have set for 1600+ , you will not see their game.

So the system works fine already from what I can see

lly missed the point.
It doesnt matter if you lose to higher players, your rating doesnt drop much because they are higher.
Re read my message and you will understand the meaning

Are you suggesting it's just as easy to beat higher rated players? If so the whole system would be in jeopardy. The point is that in the long run the rating should be accurate no matter who you play.

I think it would be fair if we could see what criteria the game creator has set for waiting games.
A good example would be currectly IMupChucKing and zockerdotcom have got heaps of backgammon games visible in the waiting room to those who are a higher rank than them (ie if they lose, their rating goes down very little but if they win their rating goes UP a lot more. RISK LITTLE GAIN MUCH)
I remember a time on yahoo where we only used to play those who had a greater than 40% down games for instance. That is, they play at least 40% of their games against lower ratings.
Currently on this site there is no way to tell that and hence players such as those mentioned above can simply play as many UP games as they want and of course their BKR will skyrocket.

Lets get it fair and show the up-down stats.

I am in no way at all suggesting IMupChucKing and zockerdotcom are doing anything wrong. ON the contrary, they are being very smart in the way they are trying to achieve a higher rating.

Summertop your a software developer you know what getting releases out the door can go like ;-)

Oh, to have BK2.0!

Tournament Listing

On BK2.0, there will be a column that will show how much time is left to sign up (and it is sorted by that time). Tournaments will also start at that time automaticly (witout the creator having to worry about it anymore)

You will also be able to filter the tournament listing by game type I believe.

on the general tournaments page:

1. Could a column be added to show the "Last Term To Sign Up" date?

2. Could the columns be sortable?

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa051302a.htm

New features have always been an on-going thing here, Bernice, so request until your heart's content - be it on BK1 or BK2.

thanks.....I had an idea it was you but not haveing any PM's or games with you I didnt know :)

I used an unfortunate word below and Niki picked me up on it :( but only time will tell and this board should really be non-existant at the moment...wait until they get BK2 right before asking for feature requests...because i guess they would not occur until BK3???

Okay, got it. It's like fun if fish could swim in the sky.

You're not barred from posting, ughaibu (if you mean BK.com!) - I hid your posts from other users. Its not the same thing, if you were banned you wouldn't be able to post at all.
Its late here, so in the morning I'll remove offending posts and 'un-hide' your others.

It's fun that I can read my own messages even on boards on which I'm barred, it would be cool fun if I could read the messages of any and all members who were barred.

Sorry Bernice.... I had usecd that nik temporarily last Friday, as a kind of celebration for BK 2.0, and I did change it as soon as I was able to get on after all the problems. Although that decision was not based on any of those problems, just nobody knew who I was. Good thing I am not in an obstinent mood today, or I would change it back :)~

i meant dissapointing failure...miserable was a poor choice of words...Sorry :(

bit harsh Bernice.. hardly a miserable failure, just needs a bit of extra work.. it'll be worth it when it gets here :o)

Im surprised that under the circumstances BK2 would leave his nik like that seeing as it has been such a miserable failure???

In message box, when going to send message to friend, the drop box of friends does not put them in alphabetical order, where as all other drop boxs do. Can this be sorted, cos makes it hard to find the friend to send to when I have soooo many of them :oD

...or maybe even have a link on the game page that says 'move and go to friends online'
or somehow mark your 'list of next games to be played' so that we know which opponents are online?

If you have many games to play, and you want to start with your opponents who are currently online, couldn't there be a link on your "friends online" page for any games where it is your turn?

Easier than going to the page, and making a list and then finding the games on your main page.

Maybe there is already an easier way to accomplish this, that I am not aware of?

Jason, do you have to be a member of the fellowship to join one of the tournaments?

* Smiling from ear to ear *

Off to work, but will join later, thanks!

Ok i have added to the practice room fellowship for the faster moving players .

"Ряactice яoom" (unrated) & fast tournament finishes(rated).Will be renamed Two into one ,in the near future ;) for anybody that would like to play or try any new games , all on a fun basis without affecting your bkr rating .anybody interested trying something new click the link above ;).Also there is now a side to it for people who would like to play games at a quicker pace with like minded people , hopefully complete all tournaments within a week (rated).

mainly put here for IMupChucKingC , so no excuses to join .

I'd like to have a little history of the games when I check the rules out. Where it's been played, who invented it or how it evolved. With links for more information. You know, anything that might be of interest in playing or learning about a game and its developement.

What made me think of this is when I checked out Janus Chess just now. The game is almost the same game as Gothic Chess. The starting position is slightly different and two Januses instead of the one Arch-Bishop (Same as a Janus I think) plus the Chancellor. I read somewhere, perhaps on the Chess variants site, that Copablanca made up a version of Chess that the Gothic Chess inventor modified to make Gothic Chess. Now I'm curious about these variants that are very simular to each other and how they've developed. The original reason that I even came across IYT and then this site was because of a variant called Ultima. Neither site has it yet, but I've since learned a couple of the variants that they do have. I learned the game Ultima from a book called Abbott's New Card Games! That's right, card games. He put it in at the end of the book. It's not a card game, doesn't have cards in it at all. Played on a chessboard with different pieces, except the King.

Hey, how's 'bout adding Ultima? And Ultichess, which is Ultimamen versus Chessmen.

I suppose the ultimate variation of chess would be to allow the players to choose which pieces to use in the game, how they're set up, the size of the board, and the object of the play.

Thanks Fencer

Kevin..sorry if you dont understand my english, where did i say that Fencer isnt allowed to program? I said it takes 15 seconds to answer one
question...and

Ughaibu..I never expected a long detailed answer..just a "ill look at it" or (as he did now)
"Yes its possible".

Steve: :) i play Kevin too

Andersp: Yes, it's possible to add such option later.
And to your second question - everybody who says I don't have time to answer to all questions immediately is right. You are not the only one who asks me about something, this is not the only place where questions are posted and BK is not the only job I am doing. Especially when I have to do my full-time job at the moment.

;))))))

Kevin, any chance of speeding our games up please?
I am not stirring, just want some out of the way

Andersp...so you're saying he's not allowed to actually program for the site? All he can do is listen and reply to every user's comments / questions, and say "Yes, I can do that" or "No, i'm not going to do that" and never actually do anything because he doesn't actually have any time left to do any of these things he's commented about?

I get the impression that Fencer likes to think and decide before answering, maybe that's Czech style, in any case it seems like no bad thing to me.

No good to ignore customers

Actually if you scroll down, I wrote a VERY long post about the "BK Stairs" which never got a reply from him. I had to bring that subject back up to him elsewhere to get a response from him - so don't think he is just ignoring you or others.... he ignores us all at times! <grin>

BBW..As far as i can see so was my question the only question to Fencer today. And to type "Ok Andersp ill look at it" or "No its not possible" had taken him about 15 seconds..probably less.
No Sir..its all about WHO is asking...yes i know..he usually answers your questions too :)

If Fencer took time to reply to every request or post, he would have time to do nothing else. (And he also likes to try to enjoy the site he build by playing games and chatting at time also.)

I think someone said below it would have been nice even with a quick yes or no. Well with just about anything he post, someone will not be happy. Heck, he tried to simply say there was not going to be auto-passing, and see how much more we posted and complained about that! :-)

I noticed also LOL

He left again..why am i not surprised LOL

It was probably the flush.

I heard nothing LOL..dont tell Antje she use to complain that i never listen LOL

27 seconds LOL
What good hearing I have eh ;o)