El Cid: I actually thought that known "loop hole" was one of the things recently fixed. I also would be interested in what Fencer says. (of course it will probable be don't worry about it, it will all change with the newer version of the system he is currently working with.)

El Cid: Bruno, you needn't have hesitated to name me - I have no problem with it ;-)

As far as I know there is currently no rule that I have been breaking ... If there is any such rule, let me know and I will change my "moving policy" - it is only a kind of a protest to the current vacation rules! :D

Czuch: I've noticed at least a player (that has two games of a team tournament against me), that has about 15 vacation days set up, and everyday he removes the nearest one, and adds another about three weeks ahead. This way, when he moves, instead of having 5 days per move, he has 25 days per move (and he has less than 50 games...).
I already sent Fencer a message telling him who the player is, but since there has been some problems with naming,players, here in the forum, I won't do it.
That message was sent yesterday when he had the days between 13th july and 31st july has vacation (and 17 vacation days left). He now has the days between 17th july and 4th august (and the same 17 vacation days left)

Unfortunately it is still possible to take advantage of the vacation system...

Roberto Silva: hmm personally i dont mind if a tournament takes a bit longer .. but i can understand some people do .. it might change their planned time schedule .. which might be inconvenient during the holidays :)

Hrqls: But a lot of those games are putting tournaments on hold

Bernice: i guess a rook member can wait 35 days .. the games dont get in the way for a rook .. especially not when you know it will time out eventually

if there are any pawns who have a problem with it .. they can always ask it themselves

ScarletRose: Good point SR, but Fencer made a good job of LJ and surely he can do the same here ROFL..........

besides he would give himself away, he couldnt help himself.LOL

Bernice: How do we know he is not going to come back?

so now that we have gotten rid of the"pest" of the site....do all the people with games have to wait until he times out or can Fencer do something to finish the games? Some of his games have 35 days left for him to move....ridiculous

Czuch: I also don't like it when people play with their vacation because they have "way too many games". If it is because of the few bad apples then I understand completely why it happened. Of course, I think I have too many with over 200. I try to keep it around 100 normally...

rabbitoid: LOL...OpenOffice.org 3.1 is available now.

Czuch: hear hear

tinksbell: The thing that really gets to me, is that it is because of a few rotten apples that spoil things for the majority of players. My guess is that you had a legit reason to be doing what you did, but there are a few who use that as a tactic to purposely slow down the pace of their games?

Czuch: It seems I learned that the hard way, but I was trying to get a little more time since the past week has been too hectic for me to keep up with everything... I would still think that adding vacation would not take away time... I think I would have been happier if all that time had not been added last week with the server down...

tinksbell: Like fencer said... it is always recommended to make changes after competing your moves, not before

pauloaguia: I added vacation days. I did not take any away. And that is when they changed. It should have added time to games not taken it away...

MadMonkey: I haven't seen anything strange with my clocks. I did notice that in quite a number of games my opponent timed out the last few days. But in all those cases, they are players who make it a habit to only move if they have a few hours left to move. The past hour, 3 games where I made the last move in June 29. And earlier this week, a handful of games against a famous player who was spending a fortune buying vacation days. So, *I*'m not complaining. If the side effect of a few hours of down time is that snails are timing out, I can only wish for more down time.

rabbitoid: More features always goes along with more bugs.
I am not superstitious.

Fencer: Better not name it 3.0, all releases named 3.0 tend to have so many bugs in them they have to be followed up by a 3.1 soon after. Notable examples are MS word, MS windows, Firefox. If I were a release manager I'd treat a 3.0 as a 13th floor, something to be jumped over

Fencer: Yep, connection and site flying at present , just glad i noticed it then and not in half hour lol

OH, and i am using Prism rather than a web browser

MadMonkey: yes weve all been thou the same problem
i had over 500 games all with the same time other day over 200 this morning but now ive moved on them they should go back to normal timings

MadMonkey: Only 38 games to play at this moment. It should not be a problem. After that, all times should be synchronized.

And again, i come across a batch of games (only about 70 this time) all with 54 minutes before timout.

Hope connection speed is ok today

pauloaguia: I think the one that caused your problem is already fixed. This one is probably a consequence of the recent short downtime and BrainKing's automatic attempt to compensate the time loss.
Well, it's another thing to improve for the 3.0 version.
Anyway, it is always recommended to change vacation days after playing all games, not before.

tinksbell: Did you happen to change your vacation days?
I got that, some time ago when I removed a vacation day from the end of my vacations. Many games of mine (the non Fischer clock ones) went suddenly from 3 days left to -8 or -9 days left. Since that day was already marked as a vacation day I ended up not timing up on any of those games, but I got quite a scare.

MadMonkey: Its particularly depressing as I was going to finally win some of those hard to win Pente & Keryo Pente games, they were in tournaments.
:-(

tinksbell: Yesterday (or was it the day before) i got here to find i had 120 games ALL with the same time on and they were all timing out 35 minutes after i got here. I tried my best, but still had time outs

I presume this was something to do when the site was down the other day, i can not see any other way to end up with all those games having the same time

Bernice: I am not sure if any of them were, but it should not have changed from 14 hours to move to -4day. It is impossible to fix that on the users end...

tinksbell: now I dont know about fischers clock but are you playing games using that? might be the answer...............

I just got timed out on 6 games, an hour ago I had 14 hours on all the games. Very confused on what is happening to the system... & disappointed. Not sure what to do about it...

Czuch: I don't like Twitter.

Fencer: Why not Twitter?

For those who do not read BrainKing.info blog. I have started a BrainKing page at Facebook and it is the recommended place to join our discussion about the upcoming new version of BrainKing. Everybody is welcome to add own suggestions or opinions.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/BrainKing/113831815814

Fencer: And by the way, if you use Mozilla's Prism brainking is loadssssss faster

(one sad drawback is though you can not have any add-ons)

Fencer: thanks for the explanation

By the way, BrainKing works fine with Firefox 3.5. I would say it is even a little faster.

beach: It's a side effect of the recovery system in case of temporarily disabled timeouts. It tries to balance the time left but does not count with weekend and vacation days.
It will be self-fixed when you make a move.

I think that I will announce the BrainKing Facebook page soon, because I want to use it for instant and quick messages of this kind.

2 days are now being added as of this morning last night all my 3 day games were over 4 days 23 which is what they should have been this morning I log on and all those games are 2 days 23 hrs so I lost time not gained time, talked to a couple of other people and they have the same thing, and all games should not have had the same amount of time this morning, they are all played at different times

beach: Well, I have noticed that 2 days have been added to all of my games. Maybe you should dig a little deeper in the list of your games to find those. :)

I have over 100 games that do not show on either my turn or my oppontents turn

beach: I noticed games that had 17hrs last night are not listed & I did not time out. I am confused & concerned.

anyone else notice the times for games moves changed on the games today, 3 day games that should read 4 days 23 hrs changed back to 2 days 23 hrs also when I make a move in these games it goes to 2 days 23 hrs, my weekend days are Sat and Sun so they should go to 4 days 23 hrs, something has to be wrong with the clocks, when I logged in this morning all my games were at the same time 2 days 23 hrs

Hrqls:

Fencer:
Ok from U.S. now too

Fencer: out for about 1 hour for me as well .. toughest hour of the day :)

Fencer: I can get here now. Been out for about an hour or so...

Due to a broken optical link (somewhere in Prague) BrainKing is currently not accessible for the most users outside Czech Republic. Game timeouts have been stopped until the problem is solved.

rod03801:I missed that..my bad..sorry AbigailII...