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it's interesting to look at running games statistics ... out of first 20 games mostly played, there are 15 games that uses dice ... it's 75 percent, if you will, taken by backgammonand its clones plus all the dice poker games and the absolute king Ludo ... remaining 5 are chess (traditional favorite) plus 2 battleboats version and two games created by the users of this site: Frog Finder by coan.net (aka Big Bad Wolf) and Knight Fight by me, Andy. And this situation stays pretty much the same unchanged. Why ? What constitutes the most desirable game to play ... Look at Ludo ... it's a game with a very limited level of needed skills ... so what makes it so exciting ? UNKNOWN ... waiting for the big roll, this is what makes it a great game ... the same basically applies to all backgammon clones and poker games ... now, how about Frog Finder and Battleboats ? Again UNKNOWN ... but this time unknown placement of basic elements that need to be discovered ... Knight Fight has different qualities ... everything is known and what makes it interesting is the fact that this game is a racing-running game in nature, combined with known chess knight problem ... so we are back to Ludo running quality, but not "around the pond", but instead thru carefuly planned jumps across the chess board ... I would appreciate your comments and thoughts.