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Ask questions or just talk about different languages. Since BrainKing is an international game site supporting many languages, this board can be kind of useful.

Since we will be dealing with pronunciation of words rather than their spelling, I think it's useful to have a link to The sounds of English and the International Phonetic Alphabet.


To see translations of some frequently used phrases and sentences in other languages see Languages


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14. Nisan 2006, 15:35:29
Rose 
Konu: Pet peeves.....
I am by no means a scholar or the best at grammar in the English language but I can't get over how many people make these common mistakes!

It is You're welcome, not your welcome!
It is congrats or congratulations, not congrads!
I can hear you, not here you!
It is their car, not there car!
they're going away, not there going away!

...this concludes my rant.

14. Nisan 2006, 15:38:32
Expired 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
Rose: The mistakes are mostly because the pronunciation of the two choices are the same.

Regarding just pronunciation:

You're = your
There = They're = Their

14. Nisan 2006, 15:43:43
Rose 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
رضا: Yes, I realize that part. I think a lot of it is lack of written use in every day life. Most folks don't normally write or type very much except at sites like this. Maybe showing them the difference will help them to learn the difference. Just a thought.

14. Nisan 2006, 22:56:20
Ewe 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
رضا: There, Their & They're are not all pronouced the same!

There & Their are the same BUT They're is different

14. Nisan 2006, 23:34:41
Ewe 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
Pedro Martínez: Hmmm I pronounce their & there as the link you put suggests, but I pronouce they're as....theyrrr
Maybe it's my accent?

15. Nisan 2006, 00:25:21
Walter Montego 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
Lamby: They're all pronounced the same, so I'd go with the accent theory. :)

rain, rein, reign
to, too, two, 2
for, four, fore, 4
lead and lead are pronounced differently!
lead, led
feat, feet, fete
read and read are pronounced differently!
read, red
read, reed

I'm surprised you guys didn't have the peeve with "our" and "are" as I see them mixed up all the time.
And why is it in English some words have acceptable alternate spellings and others only have one accepted spelling?
Honour or honor are OK, but don't you dare spell congratulations with a "D"

15. Nisan 2006, 14:09:29
Rose 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
Walter Montego: Honour is UK/Canadian spelling - Honor is American

neighbor US / Neighbour UK/Canada (Common Wealth is likely the best way to say it)
flavor
harbor
color
etc

all the '-our' endings are Common Wealth

Same as some z words.. realize/realise etc US/Common Wealth

15. Nisan 2006, 19:02:44
Hrqls 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
Rose: as well as 'analyse' and 'analyze'

at the university we were allowed to write our work either in american english or in british english ... but not in a mixture of both .. so if we started with 'analyze' we had to continue with 'color' as well ... the professors were quite strict on that

15. Nisan 2006, 19:07:31
Rose 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
Hrqls: I guess that makes sense!

15. Nisan 2006, 19:11:32
Hrqls 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
Rose: true .. but it also makes it a lot tougher ;)

especially since we learn british english in high school but learn american english from television :)

i love consistence though (is that the term?) .. brings structure in everything you do .. especially important while programming :)

15. Nisan 2006, 19:19:41
Rose 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
Hrqls: It made it a little difficult for me when I was learning basic html. I would make a page with the colour tag and it never worked. Once I realized it was all 'set' in American English then I had no problem

15. Nisan 2006, 19:22:53
Hrqls 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
Rose: lol true :)

glad they dont use american english in programming languages like basic as well otherwise it would be
'if ... than ... end if'

(just kidding! ;))

14. Nisan 2006, 15:42:15
Expired 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
Rose: And about Congratulations, my assumption is:

The word Congratulations, according to dictionaries is pronounced /kengratsuleisnz/, with a CH sound, but people read it with a J (as in jam) sound which can occure just if a D sound and a Y sound come together, like in soldier which has originally been soldYer. So people think there must hav ebeen a D in congratulations too!

14. Nisan 2006, 22:57:12
Ewe 
Konu: Re: Pet peeves.....
Rose: I agree with you..all that you have listed irritiates me too!

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