Tuesday: Only know one reason, experiance and education.

But this says more....

http://judaism.about.com/library/3_askrabbi_o/bl_simmons_forty.htm

(V):

Are you saying that only the rich should have babies? Are you proposing a somewhat big brother approach to having families where only approved parents can have children and any poor people who have babies are to be prosecuted and jailed?

Not even close to what I am saying..... Its a personal choice, but dont complain to me or ask me to help you raise the kids you had that you cannot afford to have either! Most minimum wage jobs are for the young and undereducated, stepping stone jobs that arent meant as life long careers for anyone, they arent meant for married couples with a hand full of kids.

Czuch: You are talking like you expect a perfect world... It ain't.

.... well, it is, but that's do with something else, but at the same time it's recognised it isn't perfect as well.

The Usurper: Problem with your theory is, fox news didnt create conservatism, its the other way around....

Czuch: No. I'd say it was more Rupert Murdoch who made Fox news the way it is now. He is well known for creating conservative media with a bias that can leave details out, or play with reality.

(V): You obviously dont listen closely enough.... nobody wants him to fail, we just dont think huge government spending and other parts of his plans are the right answer.

Nobody wants our country to be in economic ruins either, we just dont think that is going to happen, we simply got way ahead of ourselves, and we are naturally correcting, where does it say that we are all entitled to unlimited growth and prosperity all the time????

Czuch: You seem to forget the Iraq war, when liberals said they support our troops, but not the war????

Why cant we now support our president but not his policies????

(V): You are talking like you expect a perfect world... It ain't.


Yup, we happen to agree.... it aint a perfect world, our economy will sometimes slump, some people will lose jobs some will lack opportunity, sometimes the markets will rise, sometimes people will get a good job... its an ebb and flow.... like everything.... the economy will rise and fall, the earths climate will constantly change, there is nothing wrong with any of that.... especially nothing that needs us to go into a panic spending spree, liberals are all about panic and scare tactics, they paint everything gloom and doom and then tell us they can take care of it all, just give them a chance and they will save us from ourselves!

Tuesday: Heck no... I can make $200 to $300 a night for a 5 hour shift waiting tables... I know many people who keep waiting tables even after they graduate college because it pays better than their new careers would!

But do you honestly think someone would turn down a better higher paying job just because they like serving people food so much?

Czuch: Oh I was listening and those who were talking wanted him to fail. I think they are miffed at him being a democrat and President. Bad losing basically

Well we over here have had our Government save banks rather then let them go under and put peoples savings at risk. Certain other steps are being done, to prevent 'this' happening again. It's cost the UK people billions, but the alternative..... ....

And what is wrong at making savings and creating jobs? There are areas you full well know that are inefficient... Is sorting them out wrong, as in the long term the investment will pay off.

I look at it like a doctor faced by a patient who has an illness that has to run it's natural course as no cure is available. He/She does his/her best to make the patient as comfortable and pain free as possible, care and concern are part of the oath they took.

The voters thought your President's ideas were better. And as commentated by those who watched him speak..... They felt hope at last.

Tuesday: and happen to be the type to give a hand up to the people conservatives detest.


Its called a hand out not hand up.....

(V): Oh I was listening and those who were talking wanted him to fail. I think they are miffed at him being a democrat and President. Bad losing basically


Are you kidding me????? Where have you been the last 8 years, in a cave????? I can find you 10 news stations for every fox news that did exactly what you are saying against Bush!!!!! I never remember you calling them bad losers?????

Czuch: I agree Czuch, i didn't care that much for Bush, but He was our president, what happened over the last 8 was disgusting.move on.org and that slob michael moore ran a disgusting smear campaign from day one.I'll say again, I rather would have had Clinton,but I'm glad we had Bush rather than that blowhard Gore and that stooge kerry

Czuch: Yes, but if like what has happened now, this slump occurred from people basically relying on a economic 'boom' to go on for ever based on crazy credit and greedy and as descibed "crazy mistakes that you'd only expect from someone who doesn't know what they are doing"... Boom periods based on credit never last. It's an economic fact. The Bubble will burst and not nicely.

This is not doom and Gloom, this is reality. Fact.

But the question is, knowing that such systems have been used in the past and gone "POP", why on earth are were they still allowed to be used?

Thatcher used the "BOOM and BUST" economic system and it went BANG, so now aka Titanic style (lifeboats) rules are being put in place. People are being called to account for their actions.

It's not your people's fault, they are not to blame.. They are taught the American way and fell in love with a dream that ended in a nightmare by marketing pressure, and certain amount of 'tradition' and peer pressure.

The democrats can't save you. you have to save you by believing in your country again, and rediscovering some wisdom over what is allowed and some learning over 'bad mistakes' by bosses of big corporations. Not poor people, but rich men and women.

And FIX that lobbying system of yours!!

Tuesday: Come and live in the big city for a while, like Philadelphia,, you'll see corruption at its best, handouts
for everyone

Tuesday: yes, because my family's future depends on it, but i will blast him for every stutter , every time he misspeaks,every bad bill, and wasteful spending, and any mistake... its only fair

and by the way, you got to love his senatorial replacement , Burress, , could that state be any more corrupt???

by the way what are we getting from the stimulus?? $800.00 or so?? is any one calling it taxcuts for the rich this time like the last few times we got it??? and why not??

(V): Boom periods based on credit never last. It's an economic fact. The Bubble will burst and not nicely.

...and it is my opinion, and others as well, like some you see on fox news, that this new spending spree is only temporary as well, and it too will never last!


Its like giving a kid an allowance... they have money to spend, go to the mall or the movies or a bite to eat, but that $20 bucks only goes so far, and they come back next week looking for another $20.... the reality is that you arent creating any wealth when you give your kid an allowance, you give them something temporary, nothing different when the government pumps a bunch of money at us, its a temporary fix.... and there is absolutely no evidence that we wont get to the same place in a few years without any type of stimulus?

Economists are still today debating weather or not the new deal actually made us take longer to come out of the great depression, than doing nothing at all would have!

Tuesday: does this mean you are going to be supportive of Obama?

What do you consider support??? I am not out with a protest sign against him, I am not calling for his impeachment.... is that support?

Czuch: are you purposely trying to humiliate him, denigrate him, take sound bites out of context, make insulting movies of him like they did for the last 8 years??? gee why not??

Tuesday: embarrassing like who?? dimwit Carter, or clinton who I voted for.. who lied to get out of a sex harassment suit, now that was embarrassing!!

Czuch: It's not intended to last forever, just long enough to help your country recover.

Economists will always argue, It's good for job numbers

Charles Martel: We all knew this would happen.... when you bash bush its because he is an idiot who deserves it... when you bash Bam..... at least everything being said against Bam is true, nobody has lied or misrepresented or taken out of context anything.... its simple disagreement in views and ideas...

Tuesday: If hollywood is where you look for education and or advice on national or world events, then good luck, american idol will be telling you how to vote

Charles Martel: Nixon, JFK, etc, etc. I think sometimes people expect your Pres will be like an angel.

Czuch: I'm not bashing your Pres as he's not shown yet to be an idiot like Bush. If he mucks up through stupid mistakes like Bush I'll make comments.

(V):true, JFK wouldnt get elected today with the media

(V): It's not intended to last forever, just long enough to help your country recover.


Thats fine.... just that many think we will recover in a couple or few years anyway, without the government huge spending, some disagree, Bam was elected, so we do it his way, doesnt mean we have to think it is the right decision, all we can do is sit back and see what happens now.

Tuesday: No , the stagflation of the times and the military responses bungling was carters fault.

Tuesday: Carter was by far the worst president we ever had... remember the lines for gas, hostage crisis etc??? whos fault was it then?

Czuch: Exactly... sit back and see if he's got it right. If he doesn't... then he won't get re-elected. If he really mucks up. He'll be impeached or resign.

Tuesday: don't look to Hollywood for political objectivity,, , check Babs Streisand and others for their views

Tuesday: it's entertainment, not something to educate...

Same for Gores an inconvenient truth???? That won all kinds of movie awards... glad you think its all just entertainment, and not education.... but why did they make all the school kids watch for then???

Czuch: Gas wasn't Carters fault. It was OPEC that created that problem, we got hit the same time, so did everyone else. 4 day working weeks we had here, sometimes 3 to save energy.

Mr Kennedy, explain your family's involvement in illicit , felonious,business.

(V): How can everything that happened during Bush be his fault, when you so easily blame others for what happened during Carter?

Mr Kennedy, how did you manage to navigate your PT boat in front of a Japanese destroyer causing the destruction of your ship and death of your crew, even though your boat is twice as fast??? Were you below deck with some native girls???