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Konu: Re: Nixon was a great President , Romney doesn't have a clue
(V): I can understand the awkward juggling act the Republicans are attempting to a certain degree.With population trends as they are, they will be unelectable in another 10 years or less, so they are trying to cater to both the loony tunes fringe and the center just to survive.The problem is long time Republicans and centerists are shaking their heads in dismay.I see a 3rd party emerging for the birther/tea party factions, but it will only make it worse by splitting the right wing vote, much like our Liberal party has lost it's way by losing voters to the NDP.Our Progressive Conservative party was in that same position till it joined the (more conservative) Reform party.Many Liberals in Canada now see their only chance at regaining power is by joining our NDP (labour party)If it happens, our Conservative Party is probably in big trouble in regards to being elected.
Konu: Re: much like our Liberal party has lost it's way by losing voters to the NDP.Our Progressive Conservative party was in that same position till it joined the (more conservative) Reform party.
The Col: The coalition at the moment has seen the Liberal party in power for the first time in decades. But, in having to compromise with the Conservatives they have lost many voters. It was the one major party that has remained relatively clean regarding recent MP scandals. But supporters are not happy over being in bed with 'the devil'. It wouldn't have made much difference if they had sided with Labour as they have lost confidence within the voter pool.
Certain smaller parties have started getting support, but we are lucky that they are mainly moderates. Such as our extreme factions (eg BNP) will never get hold. We associate them too much with the Nazi's, and we as a nation would never support such fanatics. Especially with the likes of the National Front still well remembered.
"I can understand the awkward juggling act the Republicans are attempting to a certain degree.With population trends as they are, they will be unelectable in another 10 years or less, so they are trying to cater to both the loony tunes fringe and the center just to survive."
For how long? Those in the Republican party must realise that unless they cannot stop the inevitable change in population demographics. The fringe is going to get smaller and smaller as people become more well informed and get bored with the constant "they are evil/of the devil" lines. Same with the far left in the USA.
I think they should hold special games where both fringes get to fight it out in sumo suits.. It'd get more viewers then WWE/WWF/WCW/etc purely based on the comedy aspect.
Konu: Re: much like our Liberal party has lost it's way by losing voters to the NDP.Our Progressive Conservative party was in that same position till it joined the (more conservative) Reform party.
(V): re :" The fringe is going to get smaller and smaller as people become more well informed and get bored with the constant "they are evil/of the devil" lines. Same with the far left in the USA."
The "loony left" drive me up a wall, but are basically harmless.The loony right" on the other hand will not bow out gracefully, militia groups are on a steep rise in the USA ,just wait till they decide to "take back" their country
Konu: Re: The "loony left" drive me up a wall, but are basically harmless.The loony right" on the other hand will not bow out gracefully, militia groups are on a steep rise in the USA ,just wait till they decide to "take back" their country
The Col: I've seen the reports on the increase in fringe groups. It's not good reading. There are potentially more 'terrorists' active in the US then Al Qaeda ever had. N' with the NRA's wonderful lobbying on gun control (or the lack of it) .. more well armed.
The batman killer ordered 1000's of rounds online.... ON-LINE.
Konu: Re: Nixon was a great President , Romney doesn't have a clue
The Col: If conservatives are NOT elected, our country will be a miserable mess like parts of Europe, within those 10 years. We are close to the breaking point!
I think you may be thinking more of the social aspect of things, which I suppose I can at least understand a little. Except that I don't believe the federal government should be involved in most of those social aspects at all. (Libs and conservatives will blast me for that. Oh well)
Federal government : smaller the better. Protect our borders and our citizens should be the biggest part of what it does. If it weren't SO involved in everything else, it wouldn't need to confiscate so much of my hard earned money. And no, I'm NO Mitt Romney with tons of it either. If any thing, I'm barely middle class. But it's those "upper class" people that spend that money and keep us all in jobs. If they and all of us are not allowed to live the "American Dream" where working hard results in success, then why bother working hard. It just breeds mediocrity. It sickens me. I don't get why this isn't logical to libs and the silly "occupy whatevers"
Of course it's silly to even go 'round n 'round about it all. None of us are going to convince the others that what they believe is wrong.
It's why I tend to sit back and read. I'm a HORRIBLE "debater"
Konu: Re: Nixon was a great President , Romney doesn't have a clue
rod03801: I really don't care about some of the mistakes Bush made, because he did the one thing I believed was important during those eight years. Now the focus should be on the economy. What the president said about the economy and what he would do about it got people excited, but here it is four years later and he is singing the same old tune. And the pupose for all of the distractions and side issues is for the Dems to have something to talk about other than what has actually been done. Which is less than nothing, so it's actually nothing to brag about. They know it and we know it, but you won't hear any of them admit it. This board reflects what is going on everywhere else, so we will just have to roll with it until after the election.
Don't forget, after the election the big news will be how the republicans stole the election. The other downside to winning will be the attacks on republican leaders children. They were all over the Bush kids for eight solid years, and even went after Sarah Palins kids even though she was only running for vice president. The left will always tell you who they are afraid of when they go looking for stories about someones children. I almost forgot that Obama had kids, because apparently the mainstream news media think his kids are a big whopping snore... yeah, that must be it.
Konu: Re: Nixon was a great President , Romney doesn't have a clue
rod03801: Libs should see the 2016Obama movie but they won't. Even if they do, they are so married to their ideology they will deliberately ignore what's in front of them.
Just like they ignore Obama's call for all of us to be our "brother's keeper" all the while Obama's real brother lives in poverty (and remember, Obama is a mufti-millionaire). Even the news media is silent on this story because they can't stand to report the news if it makes Obama look bad.
But they trip over themselves reporting on Romney's HS prank. But little is known of Obama's past because the libs hide it. When they find out, they suppress the stories.
Konu: Re:If conservatives are NOT elected, our country will be a miserable mess like parts of Europe, within those 10 years. We are close to the breaking point!
Mort (28. Ağustos 2012, 20:32:37) tarafından düzenlendi
rod03801: No.. that was bad accounting and tax collection by Greece. It didn't help that half the country is owned by the church.
"I don't get why this isn't logical to libs and the silly "occupy whatevers""
It's called fraud and tax evasion making regular folk annoyed. If you committed fraud.. you'd be in court. If you didn't pay your taxes you'd be audited (right phrase?)
It's not about small or big government.. efficient government is what we all need. But we need the private sector to stop taking the mickey.
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