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22. Şubat 2009, 04:08:49 Konu: Re: Artful Dodger: These two articles refer to a recently released Pentagon study. However, the Pentagon has all along argued that the Geneva Conventions don't apply to Gitmo detainees. The International Red Cross battled with them over this issue for years. That said, the Red Cross does report that conditions have improved in Gitmo, according to this article: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,95370,00.html That is a good start. It still doesn't alter the fact that, according to many reports & testimonies, including the Red Cross, long-term inhumane treatment of detainees was standard procedure at Gitmo in the past. Nor do I have the faith in Obama, or Obama's Pentagon, that other liberals might have. He, like Bush, works for men who do not have the interests of the American people (or anyone else besides themselves) at heart. 22. Şubat 2009, 04:20:42 Konu: Re:  The Usurper:And your solution is? 22. Şubat 2009, 04:47:32 Konu: Re: solution Artful Dodger: For now, the solution is awareness. Let us observe, study, research, and not be fooled by a media-machine (left & right) determined to keep us in the dark. Let us not be afraid to examine alternate sources of news, and trust our growing discernment to separate the wheat from the chaff. Knowledge is power, at least potentially so. The ultimate solution? I don't know. 22. Şubat 2009, 04:51:41 Konu: Re: solution The Usurper: You don't have time not to know. YOu have to deal with these terrorists. If you are going to close Gitmo with no plan, then you MUST keep it operative. If you agree to close it, you MUST have a plan. What you offer now is silly. Close Gitmo but what to do with the detainees? Well, we'll do something. Now how much sense does that really make to yoU? 22. Şubat 2009, 05:02:34 Konu: Re: solution Artful Dodger: I wasn't talking about Gitmo. I didn't realize you still were. The terrorists we need to deal with are/were in the White House, the CIA, and the Defense Dept. 22. Şubat 2009, 05:08:19 Konu: I didn't realize you still were. The terrorists we need to deal with are/were in the White House, the CIA, and the Defense Dept. The Usurper:I don't even know where to start. So I won't. 22. Şubat 2009, 10:21:50 Konu: Re: "I don't even know where to start. So I won't." Artful Dodger: That's a great post! It made me chuckle. 22. Şubat 2009, 05:54:43 Konu: Re: The Usurper: These two articles refer to a recently released Pentagon study  Now you want to quote the pentagon???? I thought they were part of the whole conspiracy??? You want to have your cake and eat it too  22. Şubat 2009, 07:53:36 Konu: Re: Czuch: Come on, quit skipping around and follow the posts better. Artful Dodger provided the links, I read the articles & reported on what the Pentagon claims. The laugh is on you...and I think I will eat the cake. |
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